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Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:34 pm
by catchisthecry
Adam Voges. Captain of WA, played one dayers and T20 cricket for Australia.
9 hundreds in 78 first class matches. 9!! Aged 30.
Phil Hughes already has 11.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:51 pm
by brod
catchisthecry wrote:Adam Voges. Captain of WA, played one dayers and T20 cricket for Australia.
9 hundreds in 78 first class matches. 9!! Aged 30.
Phil Hughes already has 11.


Maybe his poor FIRST CLASS record is why he has not played FIRST CLASS cricket for Australia
His List A record is superior
2814 runs @ 42.00 (2 centuries and 22 fifites)

Also his actual international record is GREAT
ODI
162 runs @ 41.75
94.35 s/rate
T20I
63 runs @ 31.50
121.15 s/rate

I rate those numbers ;)

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:53 pm
by catchisthecry
Captain of WA's FIRST CLASS side.
Only 2 tons in one-day comp isn't great either.
Over rated in my book.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:54 pm
by Pidge
catchisthecry wrote:Adam Voges. Captain of WA, played one dayers and T20 cricket for Australia.
9 hundreds in 78 first class matches. 9!! Aged 30.
Phil Hughes already has 11.


You should have highlighted Hughes, not Voges.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:55 pm
by GWW
I'm not sure Voges is rated that highly anyway.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:45 pm
by rod_rooster
Pidge wrote:
catchisthecry wrote:Adam Voges. Captain of WA, played one dayers and T20 cricket for Australia.
9 hundreds in 78 first class matches. 9!! Aged 30.
Phil Hughes already has 11.


You should have highlighted Hughes, not Voges.


Agreed, Hughes is a very special talent.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:54 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
catchisthecry wrote:9 hundreds in 78 first class matches.


Sounds okay to me :)

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:32 am
by rod_rooster
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
catchisthecry wrote:9 hundreds in 78 first class matches.


Sounds okay to me :)


Lol, i agree. I'd take just 1 hundred in all the games i've played even at a much lower level (much more than 78 mind you). I keep dreaming of the day but can't see it happening :(

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:01 am
by smithy
Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:11 am
by rod_rooster
smithy wrote:Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.


and the spin bowler who at the moment is better than him is?

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:14 am
by smithy
rod_rooster wrote:
smithy wrote:Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.


and the spin bowler who at the moment is better than him is?

Up until the last test, Marcus North was.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:22 am
by rod_rooster
smithy wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
smithy wrote:Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.


and the spin bowler who at the moment is better than him is?

Up until the last test, Marcus North was.


Oh dear :roll:

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:22 am
by smithy
rod_rooster wrote:
smithy wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
smithy wrote:Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.


and the spin bowler who at the moment is better than him is?

Up until the last test, Marcus North was.


Oh dear :roll:

You can't tell me that a 28 year old without a 1st class 5for deserves to be the countries frontline spinner.
Now I don't honestly believe that North is a better spinner than Hauritz, the fact that had more career wickets than Hauritz tells you how good a bowler Hauritz really is.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:29 am
by gadj1976
This thread has turned out to be 'slam Adam Voges'........anyway.

I really think Shaun Tait is overrated. He's expensive, inaccurate and unrealiable in my eyes. Shame, cos if he took his foot off the gas a bit, he could be very good with those inswinging yorkers.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 11:55 am
by The Sleeping Giant
As of this moment.....Shane Watson. ;)

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:16 pm
by bloods08
smithy wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
smithy wrote:Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.


and the spin bowler who at the moment is better than him is?

Up until the last test, Marcus North was.

Without having the stats in front of me, I believe North would have played double the first-class matches than what Hauritz has.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:21 pm
by Pup
bloods08 wrote:
smithy wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
smithy wrote:Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.


and the spin bowler who at the moment is better than him is?

Up until the last test, Marcus North was.

Without having the stats in front of me, I believe North would have played double the first-class matches than what Hauritz has.


North has played 90 more matches than Hauritz but that is hardly relevant given Hauritz has bowled more overs.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:55 pm
by Rik E Boy
smithy wrote:Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.


Nope. Not having it. Hauritz is improving all the time. I'd hardly put Hauritz in the 'overrated' category. He is earning his stripes. Most perceptive Cricket watchers understand we aren't looking at Warnie here. People are starting to rate Hauritz because he has shown improvement, therefore he is not overrated. How do we know he has improved? Well you said so yourself, he has just taken his first 5 for.

regards,

REB

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:56 pm
by Rik E Boy
smithy wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
smithy wrote:Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.


and the spin bowler who at the moment is better than him is?

Up until the last test, Marcus North was.


Bollocks.

Re: Over rated cricketers

PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:26 pm
by smithy
Rik E Boy wrote:
smithy wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:
smithy wrote:Hauritz - Only just recently taken more 1st class wickets than Marcus North and only his 1st 5for on the last test.
Hardly good enough stats from a late 20 year old who can't make his shield side, till he moved to NSW and got his baggy green.


and the spin bowler who at the moment is better than him is?

Up until the last test, Marcus North was.


Bollocks.

What is REB ?