2013/14 BIG BASH

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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby Squids » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:17 pm

Arafat might be added to a list shortly.
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby Dutchy » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:28 pm

why the hell was Richardson batting ahead of Ludeman? Thats where we lost it...FFS Chuck!
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby scoob » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:39 pm

Sack chuck and sack the chucker, tactically the strikes are shocking... Botha opening the bowling during the only 4 overs the ball will swing, Tait bowling wides and half track shite (his death bowling is carp... Learn to bowl a yorker, not something the batsmen can get under) to Richardson going in before Ludeman.... Dead set rubbish.
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby LBT » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:47 pm

Oh the irony of that dropped catch off Simmons. If taken that might have been the end of his t20 career. Now some IPL team is gonna give him $$$$$$$
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby mal » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:32 pm

QUIZ
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Which 23 year old Strikers fast bowler has a strike rate of 151.72 with the bat ?

It was a sensational chase by Adelaide against a very good bowling attack
If anything Botha batted too high above Ludeman and Richardson ?
Perhaps Reardon[as suggested by The Joker] might have come in at 3 before the 2 rookies Dean and Head ?
But Dean and Head both did well
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby mal » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:39 pm

Squids wrote:Arafat might be added to a list shortly.


Been thinking the same :-?
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby the joker » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:33 am

LBT wrote:Oh the irony of that dropped catch off Simmons. If taken that might have been the end of his t20 career. Now some IPL team is gonna give him $$$$$$$
it wasn't Simmons that was dropped. It was the other bloke in the big partnership
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby LBT » Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:45 am

Oh my bad, was at work and just getting the occasional peek at the screen.
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby Johno6 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:40 am

go perth!

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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:38 am

LBT wrote:Oh the irony of that dropped catch off Simmons. If taken that might have been the end of his t20 career. Now some IPL team is gonna give him $$$$$$$


also not irony
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:43 am

scoob wrote:Sack chuck and sack the chucker, tactically the strikes are shocking... Botha opening the bowling during the only 4 overs the ball will swing, Tait bowling wides and half track shite (his death bowling is carp... Learn to bowl a yorker, not something the batsmen can get under) to Richardson going in before Ludeman.... Dead set rubbish.

Spot the bloke who just listens to the commentators... :roll:

Botha has opened with success in previous games of the BBL so what are you basing your comment on apart from the fact the commentators said exactly that for about 3 overs after Botha got carted?

Tait bowled very ordinary, but then if Head holds both those catches it's a different kettle of fish.. In fact i'd go as far to say that if Head holds even ONE of those catches, the Strikers win the game.
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby scoob » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:45 am

Come on Mal, no need to go fishing like that... Surely you, being the cricket guru and all, would rather see Ludeman (a legit batsmen) at the crease than Richo.
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:48 am

I dont have much issues with the Strikers batting lineup except possibly Ludeman a bit higher, but then again he hasnt struck the ball overly well so far this comp.

I thought Dean looked dangerous before his run out.
Despite the constant bagging Hughes copped early, i thought he looked dangerous as well early and at least tried to take the game on.

Bowling line up of Arafat, Cummins, Marsh, Hogg, Behrendorff it's pretty handy... we did well... but should've won :(
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby scoob » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:49 am

Phantom Gossiper wrote:
scoob wrote:Sack chuck and sack the chucker, tactically the strikes are shocking... Botha opening the bowling during the only 4 overs the ball will swing, Tait bowling wides and half track shite (his death bowling is carp... Learn to bowl a yorker, not something the batsmen can get under) to Richardson going in before Ludeman.... Dead set rubbish.

Spot the bloke who just listens to the commentators... :roll:

Botha has opened with success in previous games of the BBL so what are you basing your comment on apart from the fact the commentators said exactly that for about 3 overs after Botha got carted?

Tait bowled very ordinary, but then if Head holds both those catches it's a different kettle of fish.. In fact i'd go as far to say that if Head holds even ONE of those catches, the Strikers win the game.


So you didnt see Richo moving the ball & troubling the batsmen from the other end?

In a game where the bowlers get very limited assistance, Botha is removing a great portion of that advantage.

Catches are sometimes taken and are sometimes dropped... doesn't change the fact that Tait bowls rubbish. When you compare his specialist death bowling to that of others in the comp he doesn't measure up.
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:50 am

Just one other thing..

Does anyone else think the BBL commentators are the WORST ever?!?

I seriously struggle to listen to their constant rubbish, in between their social sledging of each other they occasionally throw out some random guess on the game or hypocritical analysis... if i didnt know who they were i'd almost say they have NFI about the game :roll:

Never heard so much B*LLSH*T in my life!
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby scoob » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:53 am

I think the strikers need to look at the Aussie team set up and how they conduct themselves... the way that Botha and Tait, to name a couple, communicate and direct their teammates is digusting... players play their best when enjoying their cricket no being abuse and put through the ringer...
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:53 am

scoob wrote:So you didnt see Richo moving the ball & troubling the batsmen from the other end?

In a game where the bowlers get very limited assistance, Botha is removing a great portion of that advantage.

Catches are sometimes taken and are sometimes dropped... doesn't change the fact that Tait bowls rubbish. When you compare his specialist death bowling to that of others in the comp he doesn't measure up.

Of course i seen how Richo was bowling, not often someone gets a wicket maiden in T20.. he bowled the 2 overs at the start, what i'm saying is that Botha has opened in previous games and had success therefore shouldn't matter that "the ball only swings for 4 overs", because if Botha has an effective over and gets a wicket as often does, then it's a fruitful decision.

I agree with Tait, my patience has run thin with him, he bowls sharp, but there are a lot of blokes pushing 150kph these days so doesn't have that same shock factor and bowls too many boundary balls.

I'd prefer to see someone like Neser and Richo bowl at the death.
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby daysofourlives » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:29 am

The game was lost the moment Hughes was selected.
The game does not suit him, he put up his best possible effort last night and it is no where near good enough for anyone that opens the batting in this form. He faces way too many dot balls, doesnt turn the strike over in an almost selfish way as you can almost guarentee he is able to find a single off the last ball of an over.
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby bennymacca » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:34 am

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Just one other thing..

Does anyone else think the BBL commentators are the WORST ever?!?

I seriously struggle to listen to their constant rubbish, in between their social sledging of each other they occasionally throw out some random guess on the game or hypocritical analysis... if i didnt know who they were i'd almost say they have NFI about the game :roll:

Never heard so much B*LLSH*T in my life!


the problem is, if you put any of them (the cricketers that is) on ABC to commentate a test match, they would all be fine. Fleming is a great commentator when he talks about swing bowling especially, gilly would be too, but instead they are obviously instructed to try and make the commentary a bit light hearted, and because none of them are funny, they resort to taking potshots at each other. mark waugh and fleming were the worst.

i would almost rather they had lehmo or mick molloy on there to try and bring some comic relief if thats what CH10 wanted, because leaving it to the crickteters is cringeworthy.

mel mclaughlin is the one saving grace :heart:

daysofourlives wrote:The game was lost the moment Hughes was selected.
The game does not suit him, he put up his best possible effort last night and it is no where near good enough for anyone that opens the batting in this form. He faces way too many dot balls, doesnt turn the strike over in an almost selfish way as you can almost guarentee he is able to find a single off the last ball of an over.


dont agree, the bloke is all class. should probably come in at number 3 though, and get ludeman up the order, once klinger was ruled out that is. he is a darn sight better than ferg was at T20
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Re: 2013/14 BIG BASH

Postby mal » Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:35 am

scoob wrote:Come on Mal, no need to go fishing like that... Surely you, being the cricket guru and all, would rather see Ludeman (a legit batsmen) at the crease than Richo.



Not fishing at all Scoob
Guys like Richardson and Cutting are used to coming late in the innings and bashing
They get experienced in that situation more than say a conventional batsman would

Richo 3 off 5 balls was costly , just the way it panned out THIS time
A bit like Botha getting smassssshed opening the bowling, a tactic that has worked often enough in the past

I do feel Ludeman should have come in b4 Botha though

These are the 20/20 strike rates in domestic 20/20 matches
117.20 Botha
151.72 Richardson
130.49 Ludeman

All circumstances are different though
I will agree that if Ludeman batted at the death more often , then his overall S/R would prob be higher
Likewise if Richo batted higher his S/R would probably drop

But one thing for sure
Nothing wrong with a Richo who bashes at 150+ batting b4 Ludeman late in a game
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