Sheffield Shield Season 2015/2016

[LBT]

How much damage was done to the ball?

[test]

Enough that they had to change it.

[whufc]

Yep agree on the 200 part. Interesting to see the Vics and ball tampering today.

For who was there yesterday what are your thoughts on Head throwing the ball back to the keeper of his own bowling and then Handscombe smashing the ball away to the deep wid wicket boundary one bounce. Never in my years of cricket have I seen a batsman stupid enough to risk his wicket doing that even if he was well and truly entrenched in his crease....

I've seen plenty more stupid behaviour!! Absolute non event. The ball tampering however...

Totally agree

[jackpot jim]

******* ****, how can you get run out???

have to give a lot of credit to wade for the runout. ball was dropped down to short square leg, and wade raced after it, dived, picked up, turned around, and threw all in the one motion and thew it 20 odd metres right above the bails

Agree with the Run Out. Outstanding work by Wade. I initially thought there was a run there and it was good running, i was totally surprised how quick Wade got to the ball and whipped it back over the stumps. Just one of those things i guess? Very Frustrating .

Crowd was given out as a bit over 2,800

[Coach Bombay]

How does the 5 run penalty work? Does that mean vic start at 0/-5?

[jackpot jim]

How does the 5 run penalty work? Does that mean vic start at 0/-5?

5 runs was added onto the SA score

Under Sundries it's recorded as Penalty runs just like wides, byes etc

[Grahaml]

How does the 5 run penalty work? Does that mean vic start at 0/-5?

5 runs was added onto the SA score

Under Sundries it's recorded as Penalty runs just like wides, byes etc

Yep, they're penalty runs given, not taken away. There is no mechanism to score negative runs. Penalty runs against a bowling side are given to the batting side in the current innings. Penalty runs against a batting side are added to the fielding side's next innings or their previous if the bowling side have no further innings available.

[Grahaml]

Yep agree on the 200 part. Interesting to see the Vics and ball tampering today.

For who was there yesterday what are your thoughts on Head throwing the ball back to the keeper of his own bowling and then Handscombe smashing the ball away to the deep wid wicket boundary one bounce. Never in my years of cricket have I seen a batsman stupid enough to risk his wicket doing that even if he was well and truly entrenched in his crease....

Kevin Pietersen facing Shane Warne in the 05 Ashes as I recall. Warne hurled the ball at him, KP belted it away and yelled "f### off". IMHO if a batsman is standing in his crease he can belt the ball as hard as he likes and wherever he likes if it's thrown at him. So long as he doesn't reach out to do so of course. If he tries to take runs then I'll call him a dirty cheat, but still not out. If the batsman was out of his crease when the bowler went to throw it though, he's going to have to wear it or avoid it. Of course, the batsman also gets no chance of overthrows if he hits it on purpose, so no benefit unless it's for self protection.

[daysofourlives]

How does the 5 run penalty work? Does that mean vic start at 0/-5?

5 runs was added onto the SA score

Under Sundries it's recorded as Penalty runs just like wides, byes etc

Yep, they're penalty runs given, not taken away. There is no mechanism to score negative runs. Penalty runs against a bowling side are given to the batting side in the current innings. Penalty runs against a batting side are added to the fielding side's next innings or their previous if the bowling side have no further innings available.

Can you give an example of what penalties a batting side could face?

[Grahaml]

Back on topic, batting to tea tomorrow is not enough IMO need to bat until at least stumps to be any chance (Vic chasing over 300 on a fifth day wicket)

You're off your tree. If we bat until stumps tomorrow we'll have a lead nearing 400. Even if we force them to chase 300 on the last day we're no chance? Crazy, crazy call. 200 gives us a chance. 300 puts us ahead in the game. What you want is to ask them to score nearly 400 in the last day's play! Have a look through the history of the game at how many sides have done that sort of thing.

[Grahaml]

How does the 5 run penalty work? Does that mean vic start at 0/-5?

5 runs was added onto the SA score

Under Sundries it's recorded as Penalty runs just like wides, byes etc

Yep, they're penalty runs given, not taken away. There is no mechanism to score negative runs. Penalty runs against a bowling side are given to the batting side in the current innings. Penalty runs against a batting side are added to the fielding side's next innings or their previous if the bowling side have no further innings available.

Can you give an example of what penalties a batting side could face?

Five penalty runs are awarded to the fielding side if the batting team:

Attempt to "steal" a run or deliberately run short
Deliberately waste time after having been warned
Damage the protected area of the pitch after two warnings.
If the non-striking batsman distracts a fielder, especially if he is about to make a catch and the distraction cause him to drop it.

[daysofourlives]

Interesting, didnt know those penalties applied.

Why cant the non-striking batsman be given out obstructing the field and is only subjected to 5 run penalty?

[Grahaml]

The striker would be given out in the above example "A batsman can be given out for obstructing the field.......if either batsman should wilfully obstruct or distract a fielder preventing a catch being made". The penalty runs would be on top of that in the instance of the wicket falling, or in other circumstances such as just trying to get a fielder to misfield the ball.

[stan]

I dont think we have the men in the shed to bat til stumps, even tea would be pushing it. We just need runs on the board and need to something for our bowlers to bowl with.

[The Bedge]

Not sure why everyone is so negative about the Redbacks position - granted it's not as good as we would like, but put things in perspective - there are only 180 overs left in the game.. we lead by 78 runs.. if we can bat for at least half of today towards tea going at 4 rpo or there abouts, we will have a lead upwards of 250, and the Vics will have a day to chase it on a pitch that is beginning to stay quite low and slow.

[am Bays]

Back on topic, batting to tea tomorrow is not enough IMO need to bat until at least stumps to be any chance (Vic chasing over 300 on a fifth day wicket)

You're off your tree. If we bat until stumps tomorrow we'll have a lead nearing 400. Even if we force them to chase 300 on the last day we're no chance? Crazy, crazy call. 200 gives us a chance. 300 puts us ahead in the game. What you want is to ask them to score nearly 400 in the last day's play! Have a look through the history of the game at how many sides have done that sort of thing.

Yep I lknow it is rare but history shows you can chase down 500 on a last day.....

96 overs in a day without a decent spinner 300 is very get-able

If our lead is 300 were basically giving them the best part of 4 sessions (130 overs) to make 300 and Victoria showed a week ago they can bat all day allbeit to just survive as 2nd place was better than pushing for a win and coming third.

Bare in mind the Bay Oval was pumped with water last week so it is not going to break up like a normal fifth day wicket especially as there hasn't been much sun on it over the last three days.

So you're saying you don't want us to bat all day, today???

[The Bedge]

Fair call.. well lets hope Weatherald, Ross and then Carey can bat for most of the day and continue to score fluently.

Then hope the couple days rest has Sayers ready to run riot with the ball.

[heater31]

Fair call.. well lets hope Weatherald, Ross and then Carey can bat for most of the day and continue to score fluently.

Then hope the couple days rest has Sayers ready to run riot with the ball.

Sayers is extremely doubtful to bowl again in the match. Will bat though.....

[The Bedge]

Fair call.. well lets hope Weatherald, Ross and then Carey can bat for most of the day and continue to score fluently.

Then hope the couple days rest has Sayers ready to run riot with the ball.

Sayers is extremely doubtful to bowl again in the match. Will bat though.....

Bugger! That's a massive blow!

[Jim05]

Vics won't be able to chase down 220 plus