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Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:06 pm
by stampy
aaron finch, king of the dead rubber, how many times does he do it, cant score when the match counts

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:32 pm
by The Dark Knight
stampy wrote:aaron finch, king of the dead rubber, how many times does he do it, cant score when the match counts
I'm assuming you're referring to just T20I cricket?
I was interested to see if your comment had any substance so I took a look at his batting T20 batting career summary and batting innings list. Whilst I'd have to go through each individual match and series of his batting innings list to work out which games are a dead rubber some of his numbers in the third and forth matches of a T20 series (when dead rubbers are obviously most likely to occur) are better, albeit in a small sample size than his overall career numbers.
His strike rate is lower in those third and forth matches but his combined average in them is better (keeping in mind again the smaller sample size).

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... pe=batting

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Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:52 pm
by The Dark Knight
The Dark Knight wrote:
stampy wrote:aaron finch, king of the dead rubber, how many times does he do it, cant score when the match counts
I'm assuming you're referring to just T20I cricket?
I was interested to see if your comment had any substance so I took a look at his batting T20 batting career summary and batting innings list. Whilst I'd have to go through each individual match and series of his batting innings list to work out which games are a dead rubber some of his numbers in the third and forth matches of a T20 series (when dead rubbers are obviously most likely to occur) are better, albeit in a small sample size than his overall career numbers.
His strike rate is lower in those third and forth matches but his combined average in them is better (keeping in mind again the smaller sample size).

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... pe=batting

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As for his ODI record, this shows he's been very consistent across a series, his average and strike rates are similar while he has scored seven hundreds and eight half centuries combined in the first and second match of a series and five and nine in the third and forth matches of a series.

I'm not trying to defend him or say he hasn't been out of form and not been inconsistent of late, I'm just looking at what the numbers suggest. I think it's reasonable to suggest he could be a 'king of a dead rubber' in T20I cricket but probably not in ODI cricket looking at the breakdown of his numbers.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin ... pe=batting
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Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:03 pm
by stampy
i just think he has had it along with wade not to mention moises

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:46 am
by Lightning McQueen
Armchair expert wrote:Very strange last over

Bet365?

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 10:49 am
by The Dark Knight
stampy wrote:i just think he has had it along with wade not to mention moises
In what form of the game for Wade? Or do you mean all three?

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:41 am
by Dutchy
This has to be the worst T20 bowling line up we have put on the park for years, if not for ever.

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:43 am
by The Dark Knight
Dutchy wrote:This has to be the worst T20 bowling line up we have put on the park for years, if not for ever.

An expensive attack today, in particular Behrendorff and Swepson as the Windies post 8/199.
Zampa and Marsh with good figures again.

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 11:56 am
by locky801
Did well to restrict them to under 200, at one stage they looked like getting 230-240

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:05 pm
by jackpot jim
Dutchy wrote:This has to be the worst T20 bowling line up we have put on the park for years, if not for ever.


Batting line up looks even worse :oops:

having said that they'll probably get the 200 required with an over to spare :o

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 12:50 pm
by Armchair expert
Dutchy wrote:This has to be the worst T20 bowling line up we have put on the park for years, if not for ever.


Nah

last Summer we rolled with Sams Abbott Tye in the same side

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:38 pm
by locky801
Lost by 16 runs in the end

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Sat Jul 17, 2021 10:34 pm
by The Dark Knight
locky801 wrote:Lost by 16 runs in the end
And a 4-1 victory to the Windies, they have smoked us.

Marsh and Zampa have been the stand outs and Hazlewood was solid for the Aussies while there are question marks on whether or not others are up to international standard with the bat- Philippe, McDermott, Turner plus Carey struggled while Finch, Wade and Henriques were ok but couldn't really get going. With the ball the Windies constantly put the bowlers under pressure and Behrendorff, Christian and Meredith copped the brunt of it.

Onto the ODIs now starting Wednesday where I expect us to perform better but the squad doesn't change so won't be surprised to see the Aussies continuing to find it tough.

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:56 am
by Lightning McQueen
locky801 wrote:Lost by 16 runs in the end

And unfortunately we'll take that as a win.

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 9:59 am
by Lightning McQueen
Besides Mitch Marsh, were there any pass marks for the series?

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:03 pm
by The Dark Knight
Lightning McQueen wrote:Besides Mitch Marsh, were there any pass marks for the series?
Yes, Zampa and Hazlewood for me.

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:28 pm
by Lightning McQueen
The Dark Knight wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Besides Mitch Marsh, were there any pass marks for the series?
Yes, Zampa and Hazlewood for me.

Zampa: 0/23(3), 0/36(4), 0/34(3), 2/20(4), 2/30(4).
Hazlewood: 3/12(4), 1/39(4), 0/33(3), 0/32(4).

Pretty slim pickings besides Mitch.

Moises, Wade and Finch all showed glimpses but nothing to give us hope for the future.

I'm looking forward to see how we line up for the ODI's, our squad looks very ordinary, I can't believe that we have no room for the GOAT in there, I think he's pretty tidy in the middle version game.

Is Warner allowed to play? Are we allowed to play our best XI?

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:30 am
by The Dark Knight
Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:Besides Mitch Marsh, were there any pass marks for the series?
Yes, Zampa and Hazlewood for me.

Zampa: 0/23(3), 0/36(4), 0/34(3), 2/20(4), 2/30(4).
Hazlewood: 3/12(4), 1/39(4), 0/33(3), 0/32(4).

Pretty slim pickings besides Mitch.

Moises, Wade and Finch all showed glimpses but nothing to give us hope for the future.

I'm looking forward to see how we line up for the ODI's, our squad looks very ordinary, I can't believe that we have no room for the GOAT in there, I think he's pretty tidy in the middle version game.

Is Warner allowed to play? Are we allowed to play our best XI?

I was looking at the overall bowling stats while reviewing who else did ok and both Zampa and Hazlewoods economy's were ok (Hazlewood obviously helped largely by his performance in game one).

In regards to Lyon I feel like Australian Cricket
will look back once he's retired and think why didn't they play him more in ODI cricket(He's played 29 matches in just over 9 years)
I feel as though he could of been part of a solid partnership with Zampa over recent years being a classic leggie/offie combination.

Warner was amongst the group of players who chose to miss the West Indies tour after playing in the IPL.

Meanwhile Alex Carey has been named as Australia's captain ahead of the ODI series against the Windies starting tomorrow morning (4.00am). Aaron Finch reaggravated a right knee injury in the Fifth T20I and has been ruled out of the first ODI. Carey becomes Australia's 26th ODI captain.

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:50 am
by Eagles2014
Australia finished 9/252. Were 4/218 and cruising, Walsh took next five wickets as we lost 5/34 :shock:

Three debutants - Phillipe, Mcdermott and Wes Agar.

Re: International ODIs

PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:54 am
by The Bedge
Eagles2014 wrote:Australia finished 9/252. Were 4/218 and cruising, Walsh took next five wickets as we lost 5/34 :shock:

Three debutants - Phillipe, Mcdermott and Wes Agar.

Felt like the rain delay stopped our momentum, and then after the break Carey just couldn't get going.

He should've put away that stupid lap shot and just looked to play conventionally.