2019/20 Australian International summer

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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:08 pm

Before Carey got out Australia were cruising at 2/124 in the 16th over needing 35 from 28. Then the collapse came as the Aussies lost 4/19 in 3.5 overs and within that lost 3/5 in 1.3 overs. Lots of work to do to sort out that middle order.


Meanwhile Australia A are in a big hole against the England Lions.
Aus A were 5/103 at stumps, trailing by 325 as the Lions made 428.
Aus A scorecard-
Harris 6
Khawaja 30
Maddinson 1
Patterson 11
Henriques 25
Inglis 13*
Wildermuth 11*
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:15 pm

The Dark Knight wrote:Before Carey got out Australia were cruising at 2/124 in the 16th over needing 35 from 28. Then the collapse came as the Aussies lost 4/19 in 3.5 overs and within that lost 3/5 in 1.3 overs. Lots of work to do to sort out that middle order.

Yeah, besides Warner, we don't really have any power hitters, not that he could be put in that category last night.

Definitely need D'Arcy Short or or Maxwell in there at the expense of Wade and Marsh.

I love Carey and I love the fact that we have 3 South Aussie's in there but I do think they put him on a pedestal, he deserves his spot no doubt, he's not a number 4 batsman though, I'm not sure that he warrants being VC either.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby The Dark Knight » Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:28 pm

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The Dark Knight wrote:Before Carey got out Australia were cruising at 2/124 in the 16th over needing 35 from 28. Then the collapse came as the Aussies lost 4/19 in 3.5 overs and within that lost 3/5 in 1.3 overs. Lots of work to do to sort out that middle order.

Yeah, besides Warner, we don't really have any power hitters, not that he could be put in that category last night.

Definitely need D'Arcy Short or or Maxwell in there at the expense of Wade and Marsh.

I love Carey and I love the fact that we have 3 South Aussie's in there but I do think they put him on a pedestal, he deserves his spot no doubt, he's not a number 4 batsman though, I'm not sure that he warrants being VC either.

Warner and Finch are the main 2 power hitters and then obviously the selectors want Marsh to be that middle order power hitter. I suspect he might be replaced by Short for the next match. Not having Maxwell there due to injury shows how important he can be. Andrew McDonald said Carey batted 4 to combat Shamsi as he's the best player of spin. He's been a bit of a floater in T20s so not sure where his best spot is at the moment, I like him at 6.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:33 am

The Dark Knight wrote:CA 11 8/469, trail by 144
Lehmann 150
Edwards 142*
Overton 3/86


I wonder why Lehmann wasn't included for the 2nd match?

Fat load of good it has done for Khawaja, Maddinson, Harris, Moises, Neser or Bird.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby daysofourlives » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:37 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:CA 11 8/469, trail by 144
Lehmann 150
Edwards 142*
Overton 3/86


I wonder why Lehmann wasn't included for the 2nd match?

Fat load of good it has done for Khawaja, Maddinson, Harris, Moises, Neser or Bird.


I disagree, it has benefited Australian cricket greatly, ensuring none of those you mentioned are ever picked for Australia again
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:42 pm

daysofourlives wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:I wonder why Lehmann wasn't included for the 2nd match?

Fat load of good it has done for Khawaja, Maddinson, Harris, Moises, Neser or Bird.


I disagree, it has benefited Australian cricket greatly, ensuring none of those you mentioned are ever picked for Australia again



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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby PatowalongaPirate » Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:42 pm

Australia have named the same squad as currently in SA for the home series vs NZ :

Australia ODI squad: Aaron Finch (c), Ashton Agar, Alex Carey (vc), Pat Cummins (vc), Josh Hazlewood, Marnus Labuschagne, Mitch Marsh, Jhye Richardson (SA series only), Kane Richardson, D'Arcy Short, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc, Matthew Wade, David Warner, Adam Zampa.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:31 am

Australia win the third T20 by 97 runs.
Aus 5/193
Warner 57 (37)
Finch 55 (37)
Smith 30* (15)

SA 96
Agar 3/16
Starc 3/23
Zampa 2/10
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:44 am

The Dark Knight wrote:Australia win the third T20 by 97 runs.
Aus 5/193
Warner 57 (37)
Finch 55 (37)
Smith 30* (15)

SA 96
Agar 3/16
Starc 3/23
Zampa 2/10

Agar player of the series?
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Dutchy » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:20 am

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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:41 am

Dutchy wrote:Finch
Strange decision, even Finch seemed to think it was strange when he was awarded it.

Both Wade and Marsh were promoted above Smith but failed to really capitalise although Smith was lucky after being bowled by Rabada off a no ball.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:03 am

Starc got qdk out the same way again, ripper delivery.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Feb 27, 2020 10:55 am

Dutchy wrote:Finch

Wow!!

Warner 128 @ 64 (SR 135)
Finch 111 @ 37 (SR 146)
Smith 104 @ 52 (SR 142)

Agar 8/68 (12) @ 8.5 (Econ 5.7)
Zampa 5/56 (9) @ 11.2 (Econ 6.2)

It makes no sense at all, I guess they didn't want to hear the booing if Smith or Warner won it, Agar trumps them all IMO.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby locky801 » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:44 am

Armchair expert wrote:Starc got qdk out the same way again, ripper delivery.


Fell asleep on the couch woke up as that happened and thought they were showing a replay from game 1 :D
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby locky801 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:29 am

Belted by S. Africa overnight by 70 odd runs

Very ordinary performance by most
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Armchair expert » Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:51 pm

Not surprising when they are playing that hack Short as a number 7

Mitch Marsh is not much chop either

Carey would want to start scoring some runs


I’d put Maxwell and Head in for Short and Marsh
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Jim05 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:33 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Not surprising when they are playing that hack Short as a number 7

Mitch Marsh is not much chop either

Carey would want to start scoring some runs


I’d put Maxwell and Head in for Short and Marsh
It’s our top 5 that is the problem. Huge over reliance on Warner and Finch to get off to a flyer as Smith and Labuschagne are just happy to knock them around. When Smith got out we needed 7 an over from the last 15 and you can’t expect Carey, Short and the bowlers to get it done.
The coaches are just too stubborn to change tactics and we are getting left behind.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Jim05 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:35 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Not surprising when they are playing that hack Short as a number 7

Mitch Marsh is not much chop either

Carey would want to start scoring some runs


I’d put Maxwell and Head in for Short and Marsh
It’s our top 5 that is the problem. Huge over reliance on Warner and Finch to get off to a flyer as Smith and Labuschagne are just happy to knock them around. When Smith got out we needed 7 an over from the last 15 and you can’t expect Carey, Short and the bowlers to get it done.
The coaches are just too stubborn to change tactics and we are getting left behind.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:19 am

Jim05 wrote:
Armchair expert wrote:Not surprising when they are playing that hack Short as a number 7

Mitch Marsh is not much chop either

Carey would want to start scoring some runs


I’d put Maxwell and Head in for Short and Marsh
It’s our top 5 that is the problem. Huge over reliance on Warner and Finch to get off to a flyer as Smith and Labuschagne are just happy to knock them around. When Smith got out we needed 7 an over from the last 15 and you can’t expect Carey, Short and the bowlers to get it done.
The coaches are just too stubborn to change tactics and we are getting left behind.


This, I've been saying it for a bit, these two cannot both play in an ODI together, they value their wicket too much and will be out there too long, teams will just negate them and let them score their 60 off 75-80 balls, the game has evolved where anything less than 5.5 an over is easy money.

Why wouldn't we have had Short, Carey, Marsh at 5,6,7? In that 11 I'd have Short at 3 or 4, definitely wouldn't have had Smith and Marnus so close together.

Marsh going in at 5 was made siller as the Saffers had just been bowling to a right hand combo for the previous 18 overs when Carey and Short are both left handers?

I like your thoughts on including Maxwell and Head but I don't think we can afford to drop Marsh, I like having the 4th quick in there, especially given his batting ability, I'd leave Marnus out, elevate Short to 3 or 4, Maxwell at 5 or Head if he's still unavailable.

Our side looks pretty good, just some tweaking.
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Re: 2019/20 Australian International summer

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:32 pm

South Africa v Australia second ODI on now.
Aus 3/86, Smith (13) and then Labuschagne were out in successive deliveries both hitting the ball cleanly but straight to mid wicket and then backward point. Ngidi has all 3 wickets and becomes the fastest South African to 50 ODI wickets. Short was listed at 7 but has come in at 5. Finch is 34*
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