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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Bombers4EVA » Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:26 pm

Id have Jye Richardson in the mix somewhere. Especially before Starc.

And still unsure about Travis Head in the big games. Think his technique needs to be worked on in the red ball format on a international level. And is too inconsistent.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Dark Knight » Wed Oct 13, 2021 7:44 pm

Bombers4EVA wrote:Id have Jye Richardson in the mix somewhere. Especially before Starc.

And still unsure about Travis Head in the big games. Think his technique needs to be worked on in the red ball format on a international level. And is too inconsistent.

Given Richardson hasn't played Shield cricket for WA in almost two years and recently suffering an abdominal strain during training before WA's first Shield match against SA it's hard to see him being in contention for Australia's Ashes squad. He is expected to play in WA's next Shield match against Tasmania starting Sunday.

I'd love to see him back for Australia as soon as possible but surely he'd be focusing on getting his body right and playing games for WA first, I did read a quote of his saying he's not even thinking about the Ashes at this stage.

And about Travis Head in big games, what do you classify as a 'big game'? Surely every test match a cricketer plays for their country is a 'big game'? Surely the only way he works on his technique at international level and becoming more consistent is by playing test cricket, that's pretty obvious I would of thought so if you're so unsure about Head then who are you picking instead of him? He is clearly the best option at number 5 for Australia and certainly proved that point in Shield last season by making the second most runs in the competition (behind Cameron Green) and then starting with an century in SA's first game of this Shield season.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Rik E Boy » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:00 pm

Bombers4EVA wrote:Id have Jye Richardson in the mix somewhere. Especially before Starc.

And still unsure about Travis Head in the big games. Think his technique needs to be worked on in the red ball format on a international level. And is too inconsistent.


Pattinson before Starc and Head looks in decent nick so pick him.

1. Warner
2. Puc
3. Marnus
4. Devereux
5. Head
6. Green
7. Paine
8. Cummins
9. Pattinson
10. Goat
11. Hazelwood
12. Some dude that can field

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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:13 pm

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Bombers4EVA wrote:Id have Jye Richardson in the mix somewhere. Especially before Starc.

And still unsure about Travis Head in the big games. Think his technique needs to be worked on in the red ball format on a international level. And is too inconsistent.

Given Richardson hasn't played Shield cricket for WA in almost two years and recently suffering an abdominal strain during training before WA's first Shield match against SA it's hard to see him being in contention for Australia's Ashes squad. He is expected to play in WA's next Shield match against Tasmania starting Sunday.

I'd love to see him back for Australia as soon as possible but surely he'd be focusing on getting his body right and playing games for WA first, I did read a quote of his saying he's not even thinking about the Ashes at this stage.

And about Travis Head in big games, what do you classify as a 'big game'? Surely every test match a cricketer plays for their country is a 'big game'? Surely the only way he works on his technique at international level and becoming more consistent is by playing test cricket, that's pretty obvious I would of thought so if you're so unsure about Head then who are you picking instead of him? He is clearly the best option at number 5 for Australia and certainly proved that point in Shield last season by making the second most runs in the competition (behind Cameron Green) and then starting with an century in SA's first game of this Shield season.

What about Bruce Reid?
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Bombers4EVA » Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:19 pm

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Bombers4EVA wrote:Id have Jye Richardson in the mix somewhere. Especially before Starc.

And still unsure about Travis Head in the big games. Think his technique needs to be worked on in the red ball format on a international level. And is too inconsistent.

Given Richardson hasn't played Shield cricket for WA in almost two years and recently suffering an abdominal strain during training before WA's first Shield match against SA it's hard to see him being in contention for Australia's Ashes squad. He is expected to play in WA's next Shield match against Tasmania starting Sunday.

I'd love to see him back for Australia as soon as possible but surely he'd be focusing on getting his body right and playing games for WA first, I did read a quote of his saying he's not even thinking about the Ashes at this stage.

And about Travis Head in big games, what do you classify as a 'big game'? Surely every test match a cricketer plays for their country is a 'big game'? Surely the only way he works on his technique at international level and becoming more consistent is by playing test cricket, that's pretty obvious I would of thought so if you're so unsure about Head then who are you picking instead of him? He is clearly the best option at number 5 for Australia and certainly proved that point in Shield last season by making the second most runs in the competition (behind Cameron Green) and then starting with an century in SA's first game of this Shield season.

I wasn't aware of Richardson's injury so yeah he will need to get better and get some Sheffield Shield matches into him before he is in consideration to be picked.
Well I reckon they should introduce Carey as a specialised batsman at number 5. Given he will eventually replace Paine as long as he keeps performing. Which he is. That way it gives him the experience of International test cricket before he takes over the with the gloves. And he can make runs too so he wouldn't be that bad as a option. I just don't rate Head. Even bringing in Renshaw at number 5 could be another option.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:15 pm

Bombers4EVA wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Bombers4EVA wrote:Id have Jye Richardson in the mix somewhere. Especially before Starc.

And still unsure about Travis Head in the big games. Think his technique needs to be worked on in the red ball format on a international level. And is too inconsistent.

Given Richardson hasn't played Shield cricket for WA in almost two years and recently suffering an abdominal strain during training before WA's first Shield match against SA it's hard to see him being in contention for Australia's Ashes squad. He is expected to play in WA's next Shield match against Tasmania starting Sunday.

I'd love to see him back for Australia as soon as possible but surely he'd be focusing on getting his body right and playing games for WA first, I did read a quote of his saying he's not even thinking about the Ashes at this stage.

And about Travis Head in big games, what do you classify as a 'big game'? Surely every test match a cricketer plays for their country is a 'big game'? Surely the only way he works on his technique at international level and becoming more consistent is by playing test cricket, that's pretty obvious I would of thought so if you're so unsure about Head then who are you picking instead of him? He is clearly the best option at number 5 for Australia and certainly proved that point in Shield last season by making the second most runs in the competition (behind Cameron Green) and then starting with an century in SA's first game of this Shield season.

I wasn't aware of Richardson's injury so yeah he will need to get better and get some Sheffield Shield matches into him before he is in consideration to be picked.
Well I reckon they should introduce Carey as a specialised batsman at number 5. Given he will eventually replace Paine as long as he keeps performing. Which he is. That way it gives him the experience of International test cricket before he takes over the with the gloves. And he can make runs too so he wouldn't be that bad as a option. I just don't rate Head. Even bringing in Renshaw at number 5 could be another option.

Dude!!!!!! Carey averages 36 in shield cricket, he is not a specialized batsman, as much as I'd love to agree with you, he ain't replacing Tim Paine, they will opt for a younger keeper as Carey will be at least 33 by the time Paine is moved on, they will keep him as captain as we have no one to fill that void yet and are a long way off finding one.

Carey's door is closing, he hasn't grabbed the opportunity with both hands when it's presented itself.

Renshaw averages the same.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Jim05 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:45 pm

Pucovski concussed again after being hit in the head in a net session. 10 concussions now and surely must be some doubts over him
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Armchair expert » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:04 pm

Inglis is the next test keeper unless they give Carey 2/3 years if Paine retires after this years Ashes.

I would like to see Bryce Street get an opportunity but I think they will stick with Marcus Harris who I have no faith in overseas but on flat decks will likely score a few runs
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby heater31 » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:54 pm

Jim05 wrote:Pucovski concussed again after being hit in the head in a net session. 10 concussions now and surely must be some doubts over him
Never known a cricketer to get so many concussions. Would he have even got to first class cricket in the pre helmet era?
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:18 pm

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Bombers4EVA wrote:
The Dark Knight wrote:
Bombers4EVA wrote:Id have Jye Richardson in the mix somewhere. Especially before Starc.

And still unsure about Travis Head in the big games. Think his technique needs to be worked on in the red ball format on a international level. And is too inconsistent.

Given Richardson hasn't played Shield cricket for WA in almost two years and recently suffering an abdominal strain during training before WA's first Shield match against SA it's hard to see him being in contention for Australia's Ashes squad. He is expected to play in WA's next Shield match against Tasmania starting Sunday.

I'd love to see him back for Australia as soon as possible but surely he'd be focusing on getting his body right and playing games for WA first, I did read a quote of his saying he's not even thinking about the Ashes at this stage.

And about Travis Head in big games, what do you classify as a 'big game'? Surely every test match a cricketer plays for their country is a 'big game'? Surely the only way he works on his technique at international level and becoming more consistent is by playing test cricket, that's pretty obvious I would of thought so if you're so unsure about Head then who are you picking instead of him? He is clearly the best option at number 5 for Australia and certainly proved that point in Shield last season by making the second most runs in the competition (behind Cameron Green) and then starting with an century in SA's first game of this Shield season.

I wasn't aware of Richardson's injury so yeah he will need to get better and get some Sheffield Shield matches into him before he is in consideration to be picked.
Well I reckon they should introduce Carey as a specialised batsman at number 5. Given he will eventually replace Paine as long as he keeps performing. Which he is. That way it gives him the experience of International test cricket before he takes over the with the gloves. And he can make runs too so he wouldn't be that bad as a option. I just don't rate Head. Even bringing in Renshaw at number 5 could be another option.

Dude!!!!!! Carey averages 36 in shield cricket, he is not a specialized batsman, as much as I'd love to agree with you, he ain't replacing Tim Paine, they will opt for a younger keeper as Carey will be at least 33 by the time Paine is moved on, they will keep him as captain as we have no one to fill that void yet and are a long way off finding one.

Carey's door is closing, he hasn't grabbed the opportunity with both hands when it's presented itself.

Renshaw averages the same.

Spot on LM, Carey as a specialist test batsman oh boy wow wee, that'll never happen.

Depending on how he goes this summer Inglis could overtake Carey as the next cab off the rank, I'm really interested to see how Australia's wicket keeping situation pans out.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:30 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Inglis is the next test keeper unless they give Carey 2/3 years if Paine retires after this years Ashes.

I would like to see Bryce Street get an opportunity but I think they will stick with Marcus Harris who I have no faith in overseas but on flat decks will likely score a few runs

Street at 23 might be a one to watch for the future.
Renshaw at 25 still has time on his side but he hasn't really kicked on since playing test cricket like we hoped.
Harris like you said is the most likely to partner Warner if Pucovski isn't available, hopefully Victoria and NSW are able to play some cricket sooner rather than later!
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:47 pm

England selectors have named a 14-man England Lions group that will fly to Australia on November 4 and provide warm-up opposition for their Ashes squad.

The Lions will train alongside the main group in Queensland and play two intra-squad warm-up matches before they face Australia A in a four-day match, which is scheduled to be played in Brisbane on December 9-12 and run concurrently with the first Vodafone Test at the Gabba.

Notable names in the Lions group are wicketkeeper-batter Ben Foakes, leg-spinners Matt Parkinson and Mason Crane (whose sole Test to date came at the SCG in 2018) and recently dumped Test opener, Dom Sibley.

But there was no room for Sixers pair Tom Curran and James Vince, who both played on England's last Test tour of Australia in 2017-18, or Sam Billings, who had been part of the Test set-up this year.

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/england ... 2021-10-14

England Lions squad: Tom Abell, Josh Bohannon, James Bracey, Brydon Carse, Mason Crane, Matthew Fisher, Ben Foakes, Alex Lees, Saqib Mahmood, Liam Norwell, Matt Parkinson, Dom Sibley, Jamie Smith, Rob Yates
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:14 am

Puc sconned again. About ten times now. Can't play the short one so career probably over.

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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Eagles2014 » Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:35 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Puc sconned again. About ten times now. Can't play the short one so career probably over.

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Agree. Anderson, Broad and any other pace bowler for that matter will just bounce him and he is history. Such a shame. Terrible he has not been coached better in this area of his game when the rest is so good :shock:
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Booney » Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:39 am

Eagles2014 wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Puc sconned again. About ten times now. Can't play the short one so career probably over.

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Agree. Anderson, Broad and any other pace bowler for that matter will just bounce him and he is history. Such a shame. Terrible he has not been coached better in this area of his game when the rest is so good :shock:


I reckon the short ones are the hardest to coach into someones game. Given the prodigious talent he has been his whole junior career there's no doubt someone has worked on it with him, but it's either there or it's not. Might also be reflective of the bowling talent around Victoria in under age ranks not having the ability to really test him, it took until he was playing at Second X1 level before he was confronted with pure bumpers.

Or he's just susceptible to concussion and it's not about the way he plays but the manner in which he can cop the blows, for some it might not register at all, for him it lingers for days, either way you have to feel for the lad.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Armchair expert » Fri Oct 15, 2021 10:42 am

He got a concussion running between wickets a couple of years back
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:05 am

Rik E Boy wrote:Puc sconned again. About ten times now. Can't play the short one so career probably over.

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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:09 am

Eagles2014 wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Puc sconned again. About ten times now. Can't play the short one so career probably over.

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Agree. Anderson, Broad and any other pace bowler for that matter will just bounce him and he is history. Such a shame. Terrible he has not been coached better in this area of his game when the rest is so good :shock:


Could be because you aren't allowed to bowl bouncers in junior cricket any more like we could yesteryear.

Under 14's 1988, I was walking past Daryl Harper and he whispers "chuck in a short one"

I bowled the perfect bouncer and as I walked to my mark and he whispers "Back it up with another"

I did and he smiled as I strode past him and said "one more".

The next ball he says "A yorker now will clean him up"

It did.

The following week we had a replacement umpire and he was umpiring the shield game on TV at AO.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby whufc » Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:13 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
Eagles2014 wrote:
Rik E Boy wrote:Puc sconned again. About ten times now. Can't play the short one so career probably over.

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Agree. Anderson, Broad and any other pace bowler for that matter will just bounce him and he is history. Such a shame. Terrible he has not been coached better in this area of his game when the rest is so good :shock:


Could be because you aren't allowed to bowl bouncers in junior cricket any more like we could yesteryear.

Under 14's 1988, I was walking past Daryl Harper and he whispers "chuck in a short one"

I bowled the perfect bouncer and as I walked to my mark and he whispers "Back it up with another"

I did and he smiled as I strode past him and said "one more".

The next ball he says "A yorker now will clean him up"

It did.

The following week we had a replacement umpire and he was umpiring the shield game on TV at AO.


100% agree.

I've four foot nothing and touch wood only ever been sconned once by a young Chris Duval in u/15's.

My first Senior cricket coach Brett Rowland said if you want open in the A grade you need to be able to handle the short ball. Rolled out 2 brand new cricket balls at training and gave them to the two openers at the time and said go for it.

I looked at my dad who was an assistant coach at the time hoping for a reprieve and all said was 'go on get in there'

Scared the shit out of me but I truly believe it gave me the skill set able to avoid being hit, despite the fact im a pleb country cricketer.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:41 am

whufc wrote:
100% agree.

I've four foot nothing and touch wood only ever been sconned once by a young Chris Duval in u/15's.

My first Senior cricket coach Brett Rowland said if you want open in the A grade you need to be able to handle the short ball. Rolled out 2 brand new cricket balls at training and gave them to the two openers at the time and said go for it.

I looked at my dad who was an assistant coach at the time hoping for a reprieve and all said was 'go on get in there'

Scared the shit out of me but I truly believe it gave me the skill set able to avoid being hit, despite the fact im a pleb country cricketer.


Being a left armed opening bowler who's stock ball was the inswinging one at the ribs or throat I had to learn how to face chin music, I love the sort stuff, the faster the better as anything on it is a 6!!
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