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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby tigerpie » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:18 pm

Trader wrote:So what happens after the third test when the biomedical scientist taps the selectors on the shoulder and says Cummins needs a rest for the 4th test as his overs bowled stat is hitting the redline.

He'll be given a workload per test to manage him through, ideally.
K's covered, sprint efforts, blah blah blah.

But if he bats for an extended period, and he will cause he's captain and can bat, then he has to bowl less overs?
Not gonna work.
I reckon he's a jet and i hope captaincy doesn't fry him.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby amber_fluid » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:24 pm

tigerpie wrote:
Trader wrote:So what happens after the third test when the biomedical scientist taps the selectors on the shoulder and says Cummins needs a rest for the 4th test as his overs bowled stat is hitting the redline.

He'll be given a workload per test to manage him through, ideally.
K's covered, sprint efforts, blah blah blah.

But if he bats for an extended period, and he will cause he's captain and can bat, then he has to bowl less overs?
Not gonna work.
I reckon he's a jet and i hope captaincy doesn't fry him.



With a side full of ego’s like the Aussie’s, how much does the captain actually do?
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby tigerpie » Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:46 pm

I hope he's his own man and its not captaincy by committee.
He did say he'll rely a lot on the experienced players.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:23 am

It's a captain's curse when you're a bowler, I hope he can master it.

As a captain you don't want to over bowl yourself but you want to take the bull by the horns and lead by example, even at community cricket just hearing the captain say "let's see how you go with one more" inspires you to dig deeper to get an extra over or two, it doesn't happen as a skipper, you just pull up. It's not easy to tell the next bowler that you're just having one more than you're done, as a bowler you tend to think you're closer to a wicket than you really are at times.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby am Bays » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:03 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Tim Paine taking a break.
Surely Matty Wade gets the call up now.

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Wade no chance

He's injured (side strain) from the t20 world Cup.

Wont even eb in teh conversation.

its Carey or Inglis in the the Australia v Australia A inter squad "keep-off
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:05 am

am Bays wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Tim Paine taking a break.
Surely Matty Wade gets the call up now.

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Wade no chance

He's injured (side strain) from the t20 world Cup.

Wont even eb in teh conversation.

its Carey or Inglis in the the Australia v Australia A inter squad "keep-off


Even injured he is better.


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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby am Bays » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:06 am

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:
am Bays wrote:
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Tim Paine taking a break.
Surely Matty Wade gets the call up now.

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Wade no chance

He's injured (side strain) from the t20 world Cup.

Wont even eb in teh conversation.

its Carey or Inglis in the the Australia v Australia A inter squad "keep-off


Even injured he is better.


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I admire your dedication to your argument on this topic, you're sticking to your theme.... ;)
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:50 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:It's a captain's curse when you're a bowler, I hope he can master it.

As a captain you don't want to over bowl yourself but you want to take the bull by the horns and lead by example, even at community cricket just hearing the captain say "let's see how you go with one more" inspires you to dig deeper to get an extra over or two, it doesn't happen as a skipper, you just pull up. It's not easy to tell the next bowler that you're just having one more than you're done, as a bowler you tend to think you're closer to a wicket than you really are at times.


Agree. I only ever bowled part time when I skippered but did find it hard to get the balance. Generally I would utilise the vice captain to say I should come on or I should go off.

It might be a tad easier in international cricket though when you really only have 4 bowlers plus 1 part timer at most, unlike community cricket where you may have up to 6-7 blokes expecting a bowl. International cricket is kind of pretty locked in as to when bowlers are going to bowl and you have no limit of overs to keep rotating bowlers, eg if you get kept in the field for 100 overs your are just going to have to use all 4-5 of them whether they are bowling well or not.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:11 am

whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:It's a captain's curse when you're a bowler, I hope he can master it.

As a captain you don't want to over bowl yourself but you want to take the bull by the horns and lead by example, even at community cricket just hearing the captain say "let's see how you go with one more" inspires you to dig deeper to get an extra over or two, it doesn't happen as a skipper, you just pull up. It's not easy to tell the next bowler that you're just having one more than you're done, as a bowler you tend to think you're closer to a wicket than you really are at times.


Agree. I only ever bowled part time when I skippered but did find it hard to get the balance. Generally I would utilise the vice captain to say I should come on or I should go off.

It might be a tad easier in international cricket though when you really only have 4 bowlers plus 1 part timer at most, unlike community cricket where you may have up to 6-7 blokes expecting a bowl. International cricket is kind of pretty locked in as to when bowlers are going to bowl and you have no limit of overs to keep rotating bowlers, eg if you get kept in the field for 100 overs your are just going to have to use all 4-5 of them whether they are bowling well or not.


At that level they'd more than likely have a set plan for each session too that would only alter from circumstantial occurrences.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby whufc » Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:17 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:It's a captain's curse when you're a bowler, I hope he can master it.

As a captain you don't want to over bowl yourself but you want to take the bull by the horns and lead by example, even at community cricket just hearing the captain say "let's see how you go with one more" inspires you to dig deeper to get an extra over or two, it doesn't happen as a skipper, you just pull up. It's not easy to tell the next bowler that you're just having one more than you're done, as a bowler you tend to think you're closer to a wicket than you really are at times.


Agree. I only ever bowled part time when I skippered but did find it hard to get the balance. Generally I would utilise the vice captain to say I should come on or I should go off.

It might be a tad easier in international cricket though when you really only have 4 bowlers plus 1 part timer at most, unlike community cricket where you may have up to 6-7 blokes expecting a bowl. International cricket is kind of pretty locked in as to when bowlers are going to bowl and you have no limit of overs to keep rotating bowlers, eg if you get kept in the field for 100 overs your are just going to have to use all 4-5 of them whether they are bowling well or not.


At that level they'd more than likely have a set plan for each session too that would only alter from circumstantial occurrences.


Yeah absolutely.

The challenge would be setting each field for each batsmen to the absolute metre of turf, being analysed for every field placing,etc.I reckon the bowling would be easier part of international captaining.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby The Bedge » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:24 am

Did I hear correctly they're scraped the internal match between Aus and Aus A?
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Corona Man » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:27 am

Lightning McQueen wrote:
whufc wrote:
Lightning McQueen wrote:It's a captain's curse when you're a bowler, I hope he can master it.

As a captain you don't want to over bowl yourself but you want to take the bull by the horns and lead by example, even at community cricket just hearing the captain say "let's see how you go with one more" inspires you to dig deeper to get an extra over or two, it doesn't happen as a skipper, you just pull up. It's not easy to tell the next bowler that you're just having one more than you're done, as a bowler you tend to think you're closer to a wicket than you really are at times.


Agree. I only ever bowled part time when I skippered but did find it hard to get the balance. Generally I would utilise the vice captain to say I should come on or I should go off.

It might be a tad easier in international cricket though when you really only have 4 bowlers plus 1 part timer at most, unlike community cricket where you may have up to 6-7 blokes expecting a bowl. International cricket is kind of pretty locked in as to when bowlers are going to bowl and you have no limit of overs to keep rotating bowlers, eg if you get kept in the field for 100 overs your are just going to have to use all 4-5 of them whether they are bowling well or not.




At that level they'd more than likely have a set plan for each session too that would only alter from circumstantial occurrences.


Don't forget the coaches will be having input at the session breaks also.

They will have plans to bowl certain bowlers to certain batters too.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Trader » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:42 am

The Bedge wrote:Did I hear correctly they're scraped the internal match between Aus and Aus A?


Rain expected all game so they are thinking of changing to indoor training sessions.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby am Bays » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:10 pm

Whilst you can argue he’s only sticking up for his former NSW teammate but it’s a fair sledge and a fair comment too especially if you think about Khawajas ton at the Adelaide oval in 2016-17 against the Saffas strum Philander et al at night and the next day….
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Armchair expert » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:23 pm

Is Ed Cowan full of shit? Lets find out

Heads FC centuries

223 v WA = Draw
192 v TAS = Win
171* v TAS = Draw
163 c WA = Draw
151 v VIC = Draw
145 v TAS = Loss
137 v VIC = Draw
134 v WA = Win
132 v QLD = Draw
130 v VIC = Loss
114 v WA = Win
109 v NSW = Loss
101 v QLD = Loss

Usman

182 v SA = Win
174 v SA = Draw
157 v WA = Loss
138 v TAS = WIN
131 v SA = WIN
122 v VIC = WIN
119 v TAS = WIN
115 v TAS = WIN
106 v SA = WIN
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby amber_fluid » Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:40 pm

Armchair expert wrote:Is Ed Cowan full of shit? Lets find out

Heads FC centuries

223 v WA = Draw
192 v TAS = Win
171* v TAS = Draw
163 c WA = Draw
151 v VIC = Draw
145 v TAS = Loss
137 v VIC = Draw
134 v WA = Win
132 v QLD = Draw
130 v VIC = Loss
114 v WA = Win
109 v NSW = Loss
101 v QLD = Loss

Usman

182 v SA = Win
174 v SA = Draw
157 v WA = Loss
138 v TAS = WIN
131 v SA = WIN
122 v VIC = WIN
119 v TAS = WIN
115 v TAS = WIN
106 v SA = WIN



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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby gazzamagoo » Tue Nov 30, 2021 6:45 pm

Carey is IN
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Dutchy » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:12 pm

Yep congrats Kez! 8)
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Lightning McQueen » Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:29 am

Better late than never, I'm backing him to get the monkey off his back with a half century.
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Re: Australian International Summer (The Ashes) 2021/22

Postby Jim05 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:21 am

Trav is going to miss out for Khawaja FFS
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