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Botham Weighs In

Posted:
Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:22 pm
by Squawk
Botham reportedly called the Aussies "Dad's Army" today, a term the British tabloids are using saying the Aussies are too old.
The highlight was Warney's response.
"You wouldn't want to lose to the oldest team though, would you!".

Re: Botham Weighs In

Posted:
Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:47 pm
by westozfalcon
I think the Aussies are too old on average but then again why would you retire when there's so much money to be made?
Yes players are fitter than they were 30 years ago but reflexes don't get any sharper as the years pass on no matter how many situps and circuits you do.
I wonder if it was a deteriorating of reflexes that saw Langer get hit flush in the helmet by Ntini over in South Africa


Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:19 am
by GWW
It will be interesting to see the order in which the older players leave the team. I'd say it would be:
Langer
Martyn
McGrath
Warne
Hayden
Gilchrist

Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:41 am
by mal
GWW wrote:It will be interesting to see the order in which the older players leave the team. I'd say it would be:
Langer
Martyn
McGrath
Warne
Hayden
Gilchrist
Your on the ball
Refer first test eleven in cricket room
9-22 post by MAL

Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:16 am
by Adelaide Hawk
This is Test Cricket. You pick the best available 11 players in the country. If those players happen to be over 30, then that's just the way it is. I can't believe English people would accuse others of having old players. They would have selected more players over 40 years old than any other country.

Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:45 am
by Rik E Boy
Spot on Hawk. There is nothing wrong with having an older side as long as the next generation is capable. Just how capable was displayed last Friday.
regards,
REB

Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:43 am
by Squawk
Over the years the Poms may as well have been called "The Combined Foreign Legion". They have that many people from other countries who have ended up playing for them. South Africans, Australians, Zimbabweans, West Indians, etc.
Ian Botham weighs in....

Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:10 pm
by Rik E Boy
at about 120!!
regards,
REB

Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:08 pm
by smac
Send him to the weight loss challenge thread. Fat cnut would feel right at home in there with us lot.

Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:37 pm
by Dogwatcher
While I agree Hawk - he does have a point.
Remember how we laughed in the 90s whenever we came up against Gooch, Gower, Gatting and even Gus Fraser cos they were so old.
We taunted them with the age comment, calling Dad's Army. It's only fair to repay the jibes.

Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:24 pm
by sydney-dog
Aussie test team if announced as predicted will be the oldest test team in 80 years
Botham has dumped a whole lot of pressure on the POM's
I would not want to be beaten by Dad's Army

Posted:
Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:24 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
Dogwatcher wrote:Remember how we laughed in the 90s whenever we came up against Gooch, Gower, Gatting and even Gus Fraser cos they were so old.
I never laughed coming up against Gooch and Gower, they were two very great batsmen, and it was always a relief to see the back of them.

Posted:
Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:54 pm
by stan
sydney-dog wrote:Aussie test team if announced as predicted will be the oldest test team in 80 years
Botham has dumped a whole lot of pressure on the POM's
I would not want to be beaten by Dad's Army
Botham is allowed to say what he likes. This series is being built and built but the poms seem to have bad luck here with injuries and what not, so they never have there best team here. So what name can we think of for the english team...

Posted:
Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:40 pm
by Punk Rooster
Adelaide Hawk wrote:This is Test Cricket. You pick the best available 11 players in the country.
Then why isn't Phil Jacques in the team?
Cricket selectors tend to select players after the horse has bolted- make 12 centiuries in a row at State level, yet you're kept out of the Australian side for a bloke who used to be a really good player.
Happens all the time, I think the selectors are way to re-active, & not pro-active.

Posted:
Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:45 pm
by mal
Punk Rooster wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:This is Test Cricket. You pick the best available 11 players in the country.
Then why isn't Phil Jacques in the team?
Cricket selectors tend to select players after the horse has bolted- make 12 centiuries in a row at State level, yet you're kept out of the Australian side for a bloke who used to be a really good player.
Happens all the time, I think the selectors are way to re-active, & not pro-active.
Winning form is good form.

Posted:
Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:47 pm
by mal
Punk Rooster wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:This is Test Cricket. You pick the best available 11 players in the country.
Then why isn't Phil Jacques in the team?
Cricket selectors tend to select players after the horse has bolted- make 12 centiuries in a row at State level, yet you're kept out of the Australian side for a bloke who used to be a really good player.
Happens all the time, I think the selectors are way to re-active, & not pro-active.
Winning form is good form.

Posted:
Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:27 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
Punk Rooster wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:This is Test Cricket. You pick the best available 11 players in the country.
Then why isn't Phil Jacques in the team?
Cricket selectors tend to select players after the horse has bolted- make 12 centiuries in a row at State level, yet you're kept out of the Australian side for a bloke who used to be a really good player.
Happens all the time, I think the selectors are way to re-active, & not pro-active.
So, you're not happy with the performance of the Australian teams over the past 10 or so years? I don't think the selectors have done too bad a job.

Posted:
Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:54 pm
by rod_rooster
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Punk Rooster wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:This is Test Cricket. You pick the best available 11 players in the country.
Then why isn't Phil Jacques in the team?
Cricket selectors tend to select players after the horse has bolted- make 12 centiuries in a row at State level, yet you're kept out of the Australian side for a bloke who used to be a really good player.
Happens all the time, I think the selectors are way to re-active, & not pro-active.
So, you're not happy with the performance of the Australian teams over the past 10 or so years? I don't think the selectors have done too bad a job.
No they haven't but the point is Jaques currently is a far better player than Langer. Langer at his best was a very good player but that is behind him. Jaques right at this time is playing better cricket therefore should be picked. Seriously if Langer and Jaques opened next week for Australia and you had to bet your life on who would score more runs who would you pick?

Posted:
Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:18 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
rod_rooster wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:Punk Rooster wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:This is Test Cricket. You pick the best available 11 players in the country.
Then why isn't Phil Jacques in the team?
Cricket selectors tend to select players after the horse has bolted- make 12 centiuries in a row at State level, yet you're kept out of the Australian side for a bloke who used to be a really good player.
Happens all the time, I think the selectors are way to re-active, & not pro-active.
So, you're not happy with the performance of the Australian teams over the past 10 or so years? I don't think the selectors have done too bad a job.
No they haven't but the point is Jaques currently is a far better player than Langer. Langer at his best was a very good player but that is behind him. Jaques right at this time is playing better cricket therefore should be picked. Seriously if Langer and Jaques opened next week for Australia and you had to bet your life on who would score more runs who would you pick?
Langer.

Posted:
Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:54 am
by rod_rooster
Adelaide Hawk wrote:rod_rooster wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:Punk Rooster wrote:Adelaide Hawk wrote:This is Test Cricket. You pick the best available 11 players in the country.
Then why isn't Phil Jacques in the team?
Cricket selectors tend to select players after the horse has bolted- make 12 centiuries in a row at State level, yet you're kept out of the Australian side for a bloke who used to be a really good player.
Happens all the time, I think the selectors are way to re-active, & not pro-active.
So, you're not happy with the performance of the Australian teams over the past 10 or so years? I don't think the selectors have done too bad a job.
No they haven't but the point is Jaques currently is a far better player than Langer. Langer at his best was a very good player but that is behind him. Jaques right at this time is playing better cricket therefore should be picked. Seriously if Langer and Jaques opened next week for Australia and you had to bet your life on who would score more runs who would you pick?
Langer.
Fair enough. I must put a higher value on my life than you do on yours i guess
