Ban on the Mexican Wave

[our_longreach]

ACB announced yesterday that the Mexican Wave is now banned and offenders will be ejected fromt the stadium

WTF!!!

How are they going to eject 50,000 people???

[Rik E Boy]

They kick out the first person who starts it. Fair enough too, you don't want to take your kids to the cricket if you know they are going to get beer thrown on them because of the wave. The wave was fun until the usual small minority of idiots spoiled it for everyone else.

regards,

REB

[MightyEagles]

We want the wave, someone should start one at the SA game tomorrow.

[Blue Boy]

They kick out the first person who starts it. Fair enough too, you don't want to take your kids to the cricket if you know they are going to get beer thrown on them because of the wave. The wave was fun until the usual small minority of idiots spoiled it for everyone else.

regards,

REB

Yes Reb

Its always fun until someone is poked in the eye by a ????

[Blue Boy]

Just to clarify

One year I was hit on the head by a big black rubber ?$%^& !!!!

[Max]

At the cricket Blue Boy - or somewhere more private? Is there something you are trying to say?

[giffo]

We want the wave, someone should start one at the SA game tomorrow.

Might be a bit hard, usually only get 1-2,000 @ a Redbacks game (except 20Twenty) and with the forecast for 38, it might keep a few more away.

[MightyEagles]

I know how many usually go to a SA one day game, cause I'm usually one of them.

[Adelaide Hawk]

It's quite simple. If everyone behaved themselves, we wouldn't need laws. If you like the mexican wave, then blame the idiots who can't behave, not the authorities. Cricket Australia has a duty of care to their patrons and have to ensure their comfort and enjoyment of the game. We live in a litigious society. If someone was injured, and the authorities were found negligent by allowing the wave to continue, they would be facing serious legal action.

[am Bays]

Whilst not a fan of the wave, as a member I refuse to take part ,

I have no real problems with it when people just stand up and wave their arms, however when the idiots start throwing things in the air......ban it I say, last thing I would want is to be sitting next to some idiot partaking in the wave and for me and my kids at the cricket (when we sit outside the members) to get hit by beer, beer cups, fruit, food and other objects people through in the disguise of "fun".


CA have got this one spot on

[Squawk]

What grates me is that the Police enforce this 'rule'.

As far as I am aware participating in the Mexican wave is not illegal. If you throw something, maybe that could be classed as littering. You cant be told your loitering. So what authority do the police have to enforce this rule? None in my book. No doubt they are paid to attend the games by CA or the state associations but this may give rise to a conflict of interest - if they are paid to attend then they are to enforce the law. In the alternative, if they are paid to attend and to enforce CA rules then they are security guards. The payment of money may one day compromise them in a big way. It should be up to security guards to enforce the 'rules' and police to enforce the law and there should be a very clear boundary between the two IMHO. I'd rather the police were on the beat and tracking down Mal's car thieves than chasing renegade mexican wavers. What a joke that is.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Once a wave starts, the authorities would have no idea who threw what. Therefore, the only effective way of preventing people throwing articles in a wave, is to ban the wave itself. Sounds fair to me.

There is always a section of our society who appear to be incapable of enjoying themselves without behaving like morons and spoiling things for everyone around them. These people are the reason we have laws. We have drink driving laws for much the same reason. Most people who enjoy a drink can get into their car and drive home in a responsible manner. However, there are dickheads who just have to hoon up the roads. Thus, a new law is born, and all those responsible people have to pay the price.

The cricket is a public place, and therefore the police have every right to expect people to behave themselves. I'm not allowed to stand in the middle of Victoria Square, scream out and throw crap into the air so that it falls on other people walking by, so why ahould I expect to do it at the cricket?

Besides, the wave is so 80s, it's outdated. And it's only truly effective in packed stadiums where there are no breaks in the crowd. It has never been that good at Adelaide Oval anyway.

[Squawk]

I've never seen a one-man mexican wave and I've never seen one in Vic Square but even so, do you think the police would bother arresting that person in Vic Square? Unlikely. They may ask them to move on. I just fail to see how Police can legally evict someone for starting a wave? As I said, a law is not being contravened only a localised rule. If they are gonna apply the law to cases like that then should ping politicians for driving earthmoving equipment unlicensed when they ceremonially start new projects. Even spitting and swearing are against the law but the mexican wave? give me strength.

[Adelaide Hawk]

Squawk, you're missing the point entirely. Go back and read my initial comments about duty of care and the litigious world in which we live. We aren't talking about someone throwing some water in the air and someone else getting wet, we are talking about incident that HAVE occured in the past where people receive serious injuries such as broken jaws, concussions, etc.

The cricket authorities WILL be liable if they are found to be negligent in allowing the mexican wave to occur when people are reporting injuries. We aren't talking about the "harmless fun" here.

[Sojourner]

Apparantly at the MCG is it quite common for people to have snuck in stubbies of beer, and as the wave goes around quite often they are thrown forward onto patrons unfortunate enough to have gotten tickets for bottom concourse seating.

[Squawk]

Squawk, you're missing the point entirely. Go back and read my initial comments about duty of care and the litigious world in which we live. We aren't talking about someone throwing some water in the air and someone else getting wet, we are talking about incident that HAVE occured in the past where people receive serious injuries such as broken jaws, concussions, etc.

The cricket authorities WILL be liable if they are found to be negligent in allowing the mexican wave to occur when people are reporting injuries. We aren't talking about the "harmless fun" here.

No problem with duty of care - but why would the police enforce that and how can they when the wave is not against the law? My point is that I think any legal challenge to police carrying this out would be successful.

[Sojourner]

No problem with duty of care - but why would the police enforce that and how can they when the wave is not against the law? My point is that I think any legal challenge to police carrying this out would be successful.

It would be the private security that would throw people out and the argument would be that you accept the conditions or you dont purchase a ticket.

[Squawk]

No problem with duty of care - but why would the police enforce that and how can they when the wave is not against the law? My point is that I think any legal challenge to police carrying this out would be successful.

It would be the private security that would throw people out and the argument would be that you accept the conditions or you dont purchase a ticket.

But it's not. The cameras are monitored by Police. They use radios to direct the ground patrols to the offender and then escort them out. Again, the police are doing the job of security guards when there is no law against the wave.

[noone]

im with squark on this one, police are to enforce the law, security guards are there to enforce policies that a venue has. I find it hard to see how shouting 10 9 8 7 .. .2 1 is breaking any rules. sure throwing heavy things in the air like a moron deserves eviction, however how does starting a wave break any laws at all.


if someone at the bdo got poked in the eye during a slow clap, should the police have a policy of kicking out anyone starting a slow clap? sure kick out the f'wits throwing bottles of beer, but dont throw people out trying to enjoy themself. I just dont follow the logic of kicking people out for starting something that SOME people use to be a dickhead.



Ive got no worries with CA deciding on its own crowd policies, however unless people breaking those policies are also breaking the law I dont think the police should be enforcing them.

[Sojourner]

It's probably unlikely that making beer snakes out of empty beer cups is in anyway illegal, yet do so at Adelaide Oval and you will be thrown straight out!