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Hes played about 18 innings on tour
Tonight was incorrectly given out LBW AGAIN
THATS THE 6TH TIME he has been robbed out on tour ?.

Some will say use the bat properly BUT 6 times on a tour is too much

What can be done about umpiring
Technology is showing them up more than the past.

And if this ruins the STRAUSS career it could cost him financially as well
Perhaps a million $$$$ who knows what they get paid.

I was waiting for this...

hit the ball with the middle of the bat and you wont be given out lbw

noone wrote:hit the ball with the middle of the bat and you wont be given out lbw

I was waiting for this...

Mal, we have the quinella- Strauss recieves a dodgy LB, Watson fails under pressure.
You'll have your work cut out defending that one!

He has been crap anyway.

noone wrote:hit the ball with the middle of the bat and you wont be given out lbw

Exactly.

Punk Rooster wrote:Mal, we have the quinella- Strauss recieves a dodgy LB, Watson fails under pressure.
You'll have your work cut out defending that one!

STRAUSS out about 33% of his innings to poor decisions
WATSON averages 30 with the bat and 30 with the ball in o/d cricket
I suggest you have a look at WATSONs performances in the last 12 months.
and you will retract your insinous ridicoluos statements.
And he was first up from a long spell .

Try this quinella instead birdbrain
STRAUSS out to a poor decision
WATSON injured in the same game

Simple solution...DROP strauss.

Adelaide Hawk wrote:

noone wrote:hit the ball with the middle of the bat and you wont be given out lbw

Exactly.

100% right AH
BUT
He has still been robbed.

I played 2 A grade games as a teenager
Both games the ball hit my leg thru to the keeper
Both times I was given out Caught Behind
Both times the same umpire
Both times I called the umpire &^(&&^%@#$^&*(*&^%$*(()(*&&^%!

AH + PUNK you will be glad with what my coach said.

" If you hit the ball with your bat you wont get out like that."

Great advice , only problem was I got dropped to B grade the rest of the year.

SEE MY POINT AS WELL NOW GENTLEMEN

mal wrote:

Punk Rooster wrote:Mal, we have the quinella- Strauss recieves a dodgy LB, Watson fails under pressure.
You'll have your work cut out defending that one!

STRAUSS out about 33% of his innings to poor decisions
WATSON averages 30 with the bat and 30 with the ball in o/d cricket
I suggest you have a look at WATSONs performances in the last 12 months.
and you will retract your insinous ridicoluos statements.
And he was first up from a long spell .

Try this quinella instead birdbrain
STRAUSS out to a poor decision
WATSON injured in the same game

Dear Mr Bird-brain,
Thank you for your in-depth analysis on the ODI, Aus v Eng.
If I may ask you sir, with what form did Shane Watson come into the game with?
You say he's averaged 30 with the bat & ball 25 years ago- impressive.
Tonight, he was just AVERAGE.
Australia paid the price for picking a player with no form, who folded under pressure- 8 runs in 2 balls at a critical stage.
Scored 9 with the bat, & collected 1/53 off of 8 overs....
Surely sir would concede here, in the face of damning evidence?

Punk Rooster wrote:

mal wrote:

Punk Rooster wrote:Mal, we have the quinella- Strauss recieves a dodgy LB, Watson fails under pressure.
You'll have your work cut out defending that one!

STRAUSS out about 33% of his innings to poor decisions
WATSON averages 30 with the bat and 30 with the ball in o/d cricket
I suggest you have a look at WATSONs performances in the last 12 months.
and you will retract your insinous ridicoluos statements.
And he was first up from a long spell .

Try this quinella instead birdbrain
STRAUSS out to a poor decision
WATSON injured in the same game

Dear Mr Bird-brain,
Thank you for your in-depth analysis on the ODI, Aus v Eng.
If I may ask you sir, with what form did Shane Watson come into the game with?
You say he's averaged 30 with the bat & ball 25 years ago- impressive.
Tonight, he was just AVERAGE.
Australia paid the price for picking a player with no form, who folded under pressure- 8 runs in 2 balls at a critical stage.
Scored 9 with the bat, & collected 1/53 off of 8 overs....
Surely sir would concede here, in the face of damning evidence?

You are basing your whole thesis on one performance
In racing terms he was underdone and was first up from a long spell
Every player in the history of one day games have bad games
When he fails in several games in a row you can say you wuz right.
NOW DID YOU CHECK HIS RECORD IN O/D GAMES IN 2006

Also you and AH get in a time machine and go back to the last test IN 1948
in the UK when EG played AU
This 40 year old balding little guy came out and was dismissed
Bowled by Eric HOLLIES [not from the UK band]
He was out for 0
His name Donald George BRADMAN
I could just see you and AH saying why did we pick that old has been.

WATSON Ave 30 with bat and ball what do you want him to do.

mal wrote:
WATSON Ave 30 with bat and ball what do you want him to do.

Perform when it matters and stay fit so the selectors can't keep excusing his terrible performances by claiming he is underdone would be a start.

rod_rooster wrote:

mal wrote:
WATSON Ave 30 with bat and ball what do you want him to do.

Perform when it matters and stay fit so the selectors can't keep excusing his terrible performances by claiming he is underdone would be a start.

Look at his efforts in 2006 you might be shocked.
When he averages 15 with bat and 50 with the ball I will agree with you

he only averaged 9 with the bat, & 53 with the ball tonight!

mal wrote:

rod_rooster wrote:

mal wrote:
WATSON Ave 30 with bat and ball what do you want him to do.

Perform when it matters and stay fit so the selectors can't keep excusing his terrible performances by claiming he is underdone would be a start.

Look at his efforts in 2006 you might be shocked.
When he averages 15 with bat and 50 with the ball I will agree with you

Mal, stats like averages do not tell the entire story. Surely a guy like yourself who appears to be so knowledgeable about the game can acknowledge that? It's all about when you perform. Making insignificant runs at insignificant times against insignificant opponents sure boosts your average but it doesn't count for a whole lot. Same can be said of wickets.

You have a go at Katich because of his slow run rate today but someone needs to hold the innings together. Once again the modern game with it's endless statistics is blinding people to the true worth of a cricketer. If you're strike rate isn't over 100 and your average isn't high enough people aren't pleased nowadays. Give me a guy who performs when it is needed and i'll take that every time over a guy who claims an impressive record by making runs or taking wickets when the game isn't on the line or is against substandard opponents.

Punk Rooster wrote:he only averaged 9 with the bat, & 53 with the ball tonight!

Good summation PUNK
lets drop WATSON 9 +1/53 on one game

Why dont we also drop
GILCHRIST 5
HODGE 5
MCGRATH 0 + 0/52
JOYCE 6
LOYE 0
STRAUSS 0
DALYRIMPLE 3 + 1/41
PLUNKETT 0/56

Mate you can not hang guys on one game.

Perhaps we should drop HUSSEY as well after his last 2 innings v EG
HUSSEY 6 + 17 last 2 digs.

mal wrote:

Punk Rooster wrote:he only averaged 9 with the bat, & 53 with the ball tonight!

Good summation PUNK
lets drop WATSON 9 +1/53 on one game

Why dont we also drop
GILCHRIST 5
HODGE 5
MCGRATH 0 + 0/52
JOYCE 6
LOYE 0
STRAUSS 0
DALYRIMPLE 3 + 1/41
PLUNKETT 0/56

Mate you can not hang guys on one game.

Perhaps we should drop HUSSEY as well after his last 2 innings v EG
HUSSEY 6 + 17 last 2 digs.

Mal, i don't think anyone is suggesting Watson is not up to it based on just this game. He has put in many substandard performances over a long period of time to suggest that. Don't crap on about averages again either because if you are honest with yourself you will see them as the imposter's they are.

RR
Like ive said look at his o/d career performances each game individually
Check his efforts you would be surprised.
When you work out his bowling ave and strike rate in 2006 he measures
up as a frontline bowler
And then look at his batting efforts as well

mal wrote:RR
Like ive said look at his o/d career performances each game individually
Check his efforts you would be surprised.
When you work out his bowling ave and strike rate in 2006 he measures
up as a frontline bowler
And then look at his batting efforts as well

sigh, as i've said mal, i am not interested in what the stats say rather what he does when his team needs him the most. He comes up short in this area time and time again.