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IF TAIT WAS A NSW MAN HE WOULD HAVE MADE WORLD CUP

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:22 pm
by -
In another example of bias towards NSW Shaun Tait has ben selected ahead of Stuart Clark. :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:05 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
Just for the record, I've never been one to subscribe in the theory of NSW bias. Over the years, NSW has been far and away our most successful cricket state, so it's only natural to have more players from NSW to wear the baggy green. In the 1970s when WA were leading the pack we had plenty of WA players in the Aussie team, and we've seen a plethora of Qld players make the team over the past decade.

I don't think for one minute it was between Tait and Clark for a World Cup spot. They need Tait's pace to apply pressure in powerplay situations and to finish off. I believe it was between Clark and McGrath. I would have picked Clark.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:16 pm
by mal
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Just for the record, I've never been one to subscribe in the theory of NSW bias. Over the years, NSW has been far and away our most successful cricket state, so it's only natural to have more players from NSW to wear the baggy green. In the 1970s when WA were leading the pack we had plenty of WA players in the Aussie team, and we've seen a plethora of Qld players make the team over the past decade.

I don't think for one minute it was between Tait and Clark for a World Cup spot. They need Tait's pace to apply pressure in powerplay situations and to finish off. I believe it was between Clark and McGrath. I would have picked Clark.





Glen MCGRATH is a champion.

Re: IF TAIT WAS A NSW MAN HE WOULD HAVE MADE WORLD CUP

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:21 pm
by Ian
- wrote:In another example of bias towards NSW Shaun Tait has ben selected ahead of Stuart Clark. :roll:


I would have had Tait in my side ahead of Clark any day.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:06 pm
by BenchedEagle
Didnt i just read in the world cup thread that Tait was in the squad?!!!! And not Clark!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:09 pm
by scoob
lizbeff eaglez wrote:Didnt i just read in the world cup thread that Tait was in the squad?!!!! And not Clark!


Read the thread again Broz!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:27 pm
by rod_rooster
Adelaide Hawk wrote: I believe it was between Clark and McGrath. I would have picked Clark.


Oh Dear :shock: AH i have a lot of time for your comments on this cricket forum but to suggest Clark getting selected ahead of the most successful fast bowler who has ever lived is just ludicrious. Glen McGrath picks himself. Even if Pige isn't at his peak he has given Australian cricket more than cricket can ever give him and he deserves his finale in the West Indies. Don't be surprised to see a star performance from Glenn i the Caribbean.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:27 am
by -
Adelaide Hawk wrote:Just for the record, I've never been one to subscribe in the theory of NSW bias. Over the years, NSW has been far and away our most successful cricket state, so it's only natural to have more players from NSW to wear the baggy green. In the 1970s when WA were leading the pack we had plenty of WA players in the Aussie team, and we've seen a plethora of Qld players make the team over the past decade.

I don't think for one minute it was between Tait and Clark for a World Cup spot. They need Tait's pace to apply pressure in powerplay situations and to finish off. I believe it was between Clark and McGrath. I would have picked Clark.


Agree they are different bowlers but I think it was tait v clark

if hogg plays only bracken mcgrath and lee will play. Even if hogg doesnt johnson has the lead at the moment anyway

Re: IF TAIT WAS A NSW MAN HE WOULD HAVE MADE WORLD CUP

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:06 am
by Rik E Boy
- wrote:In another example of bias towards NSW Shaun Tait has ben selected ahead of Stuart Clark. :roll:


Heh heh. Nice work dash you beat me to it. :wink: Not upset about that call but WATSON?? Useless lug he is.

regards,

REB

Re: IF TAIT WAS A NSW MAN HE WOULD HAVE MADE WORLD CUP

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:15 am
by MightyEagles
Rik E Boy wrote:
- wrote:In another example of bias towards NSW Shaun Tait has ben selected ahead of Stuart Clark. :roll:


Heh heh. Nice work dash you beat me to it. :wink: Not upset about that call but WATSON?? Useless lug he is.

regards,

REB


Don't get Mal started.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:14 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
rod_rooster wrote:Glen McGrath picks himself.


That is precisely the problem. He actually DID pick himself by announcing to the world he would retire after the World Cup. This pretty much placed pressure on the selectors to pick him, otherwise they would appear to be a heartless group of men. They were painted into a corner.

My concerns about McGrath are his fielding and batting. He contributes very little in these areas and if his bowling is slightly off for any reason he is a problem. Other bowlers can save a bit of face with excellent fielding or making a few runs late in the innings.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:26 pm
by rod_rooster
Adelaide Hawk wrote:
rod_rooster wrote:Glen McGrath picks himself.


That is precisely the problem. He actually DID pick himself by announcing to the world he would retire after the World Cup. This pretty much placed pressure on the selectors to pick him, otherwise they would appear to be a heartless group of men. They were painted into a corner.

My concerns about McGrath are his fielding and batting. He contributes very little in these areas and if his bowling is slightly off for any reason he is a problem. Other bowlers can save a bit of face with excellent fielding or making a few runs late in the innings.


If you are relying on your number 11 to make runs then you shouldn't bother about winning games. Apart from the one mishap the other night McGrath is an excellent outfielder who has a very safe pair of hands and a strong throwing arm. You say "if his bowling is slightly off for any reason he is a problem". Same goes for any of the other specialist bowlers. They are not there to bat and just because Glen dropped one catch does not make him a liability in the field. If the bowlers have to bat the batsmen haven't done their job anyway. Apart from all that i'd back McGrath to have less games where his bowling is "slightly off" that anyone else.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:54 am
by scoob
Not sure if this is the correct tread but im getting a little sick of ch. 7's sunrise show constantly going on about shaun tait being selected before "their" man stuart clark!!! FFS what has it got to do with them just because he appears on your show doesnt mean he should get selected for th WC. Notice this morning in the news bar along the bottom of the screen it said that tait bowls 8 wides and claims 4 wickets against qld... since when has shuan taits bowling figures been head line news? FFS p!ss off and cool the globe or something...end of rant.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:56 am
by another grub
anyone got a wet flannel for scoobs fore-head!!!!!

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:08 am
by Rik E Boy
Another question...why isn't Tait going to New Zealand? :?

regards,

REB

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:14 am
by scoob
Rik E Boy wrote:Another question...why isn't Tait going to New Zealand? :?

regards,

REB


email sunrise - they might start up a petition or something... :roll:

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:47 am
by another grub
Tait is a strike bowler..... Clark gets his chance when Pigeon retires......

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:23 am
by blink
You hit the nail on the head there AG.

Clark was always going to be straight into the team when McGrath goes. He'll get his chance to prove himself in the ODI arena, just like he has done in Tests.

Take away Shaun Tait's wides & no ball yesterday and he took 4/23.

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:45 am
by Rik E Boy
blink wrote:You hit the nail on the head there AG.

Clark was always going to be straight into the team when McGrath goes. He'll get his chance to prove himself in the ODI arena, just like he has done in Tests.

Take away Shaun Tait's wides & no ball yesterday and he took 4/23.


Take away Sri Lanka and Australia are aiming for four world cups in a row.

regards,

REB

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:22 pm
by Adelaide Hawk
scoob wrote:Not sure if this is the correct tread but im getting a little sick of ch. 7's sunrise show constantly going on about shaun tait being selected before "their" man stuart clark!!! FFS what has it got to do with them just because he appears on your show doesnt mean he should get selected for th WC. Notice this morning in the news bar along the bottom of the screen it said that tait bowls 8 wides and claims 4 wickets against qld... since when has shuan taits bowling figures been head line news? FFS p!ss off and cool the globe or something...end of rant.


You should hear SEN bleating over Cameron White. It's pathetic. There are far too many media people commenting on cricket who know stuff all about the game and yet talk as though their opinions should be taken seriously.

It doesn't matter how many people think White is a better batsman or fieldsman than Hogg, the facts are they wanted a genuine spin bowler in the squad, therefore Hogg goes, White stays home. It doesn't matter who thinks Clark is a better bowler than Tait, the facts are they need a bowler with sufficient pace to apply pressure in power plays and to finish off. Therefore, Tait goes, Clark stays home.

I really wish people would think things through before gobbing off with home town biases. It is nigh impossible finding anyone within the media these days with a capacity for intelligible balanced argument instead of pushing their own agendas.