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Postby rogernumber10 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:27 pm

brod wrote:I think that the rest are Pakistani players, Not sure but think weve got the Poms and South Africans



15 down now, with your last post. You've got four paks, but one Seth Efrican to finish
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby brod » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:29 pm

rogernumber10 wrote:
brod wrote:I think that the rest are Pakistani players, Not sure but think weve got the Poms and South Africans



15 down now, with your last post. You've got four paks, but one Seth Efrican to finish


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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby spell_check » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:29 pm

Garth le Roux for the World XI
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby spell_check » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:32 pm

rogernumber10 wrote:
brod wrote:Okay, lets have a go at the West Indies 20
C. Lloyd
R. Fredricks
M. Holding
V. Richards
D. Murray
A. Roberts
G. Greenidge
L. Gibbs
R. Kanhai
C. Croft
J. Garner
D. Haynes
L. Rowe

Thats it for now...will keep thinking about the rest..some Im sure are obvious, even more sure some Ill never know.



Well that's a 13-13 start.


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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby rogernumber10 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:32 pm

spell_check wrote:Garth le Roux for the World XI



16 with four to go.
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby rogernumber10 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:33 pm

spell_check wrote:
rogernumber10 wrote:
brod wrote:Okay, lets have a go at the West Indies 20
C. Lloyd
R. Fredricks
M. Holding
V. Richards
D. Murray
A. Roberts
G. Greenidge
L. Gibbs
R. Kanhai
C. Croft
J. Garner
D. Haynes
L. Rowe

Thats it for now...will keep thinking about the rest..some Im sure are obvious, even more sure some Ill never know.



Well that's a 13-13 start.


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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby am Bays » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:37 pm

rogernumber10 wrote:Was flicking through Gideon Haigh's outstanding book last night. Who wants a crack at the Australians who played in either of the two World Series years? (28 aussies in all, and it's always the last 4-5 who are the hardest to get)



Hey Rog given your journalistic contacts from earlier threads aka Roland Fishman and 91 WIndies tour, in Graham Halbish's book, Run Out he states the old ACB team manager and ex-Journalist Ian McDonald was suspposed to be writing a book on the ABCIC/ACB/CA. What happened to it? Did it canned with teh Rodgers/Halbish/Crompton bust up of '97?
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby Hondo » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:37 pm

I could pretend I am guessing but I have a book that I recommend to anyone interested in the whole story of WSC:

'The Cricket War' by Gideon Haigh

A brilliant read, check it out on Ebay or a second hand book store ...

So of course I have the entire list and, yes, a couple of West Indians I bet we'll never get without looking it up
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby spell_check » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:42 pm

hondo71 wrote:I could pretend I am guessing but I have a book that I recommend to anyone interested in the whole story of WSC:

'The Cricket War' by Gideon Haigh

A brilliant read, check it out on Ebay or a second hand book store ...

So of course I have the entire list and, yes, a couple of West Indians I bet we'll never get without looking it up


I picked that book up about 4 years ago at Harris Scarfe at West Lakes for about $5. Magnificent book. You won't see too many books like that in terms of detail, the amount of work put into it must have been a lot. I'm tempted to look at it to find the other players, but I won't. ;)

I recall a couple of other West Indian players, David Holford and Vanburn Holder?
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby rogernumber10 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:51 pm

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rogernumber10 wrote:Was flicking through Gideon Haigh's outstanding book last night. Who wants a crack at the Australians who played in either of the two World Series years? (28 aussies in all, and it's always the last 4-5 who are the hardest to get)



Hey Rog given your journalistic contacts from earlier threads aka Roland Fishman and 91 WIndies tour, in Graham Halbish's book, Run Out he states the old ACB team manager and ex-Journalist Ian McDonald was suspposed to be writing a book on the ABCIC/ACB/CA. What happened to it? Did it canned with teh Rodgers/Halbish/Crompton bust up of '97?


Good time to ask that question.
It got put on the backburner for 8 years after that bust up. I did a bit of subbing work on Robert Parish's original 500,000 word tome (couldn't publish something that big) but they decided not to publish that either in 05.
Then, late last year Gideon Haigh and David Frith were given access to Parish's records and all the boards minutes they have published a history either this week or next week.
I haven't seen it yet but a couple of my cricket writing mates say Gideon has done his usual brilliant job from the advance copies they have read.
I have to go find it, but apparently they've printed warts and all because Creagh O'Connor, to his eternal credit, was prepared for the Board to wear all the negative stuff they've done, compared to no other chairman before him.
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby rogernumber10 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:53 pm

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hondo71 wrote:I could pretend I am guessing but I have a book that I recommend to anyone interested in the whole story of WSC:

'The Cricket War' by Gideon Haigh

A brilliant read, check it out on Ebay or a second hand book store ...

So of course I have the entire list and, yes, a couple of West Indians I bet we'll never get without looking it up


I picked that book up about 4 years ago at Harris Scarfe at West Lakes for about $5. Magnificent book. You won't see too many books like that in terms of detail, the amount of work put into it must have been a lot. I'm tempted to look at it to find the other players, but I won't. ;)

I recall a couple of other West Indian players, David Holford and Vanburn Holder?


Holford a yes, leaving just two tough West Indians and two others that people should be able to get.

Holder stayed with the main team, alongside Alvin Kallicharran (what a player).

As for the reference - Superb book, if only for the fact he actually printed all those WSC Supertest scorecards and averages you couldn't possibly find anywhere.
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby spell_check » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:00 pm

rogernumber10 wrote:
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hondo71 wrote:I could pretend I am guessing but I have a book that I recommend to anyone interested in the whole story of WSC:

'The Cricket War' by Gideon Haigh

A brilliant read, check it out on Ebay or a second hand book store ...

So of course I have the entire list and, yes, a couple of West Indians I bet we'll never get without looking it up


I picked that book up about 4 years ago at Harris Scarfe at West Lakes for about $5. Magnificent book. You won't see too many books like that in terms of detail, the amount of work put into it must have been a lot. I'm tempted to look at it to find the other players, but I won't. ;)

I recall a couple of other West Indian players, David Holford and Vanburn Holder?


Holford a yes, leaving just two tough West Indians and two others that people should be able to get.

Holder stayed with the main team, alongside Alvin Kallicharran (what a player).

As for the reference - Superb book, if only for the fact he actually printed all those WSC Supertest scorecards and averages you couldn't possibly find anywhere.


They have them on CricketArchive - http://www.cricketarchive.com ; an amazing site.

Sylvester Clarke is one of the two?
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby rogernumber10 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:03 pm

No, Clarke not one of the two easier ones, or the two harder West Indians, of the four that are left.

He stayed and carried the Windies attack through a tour of India with that young guy Marshall, who seemed okay.

We could start a whole different thread arguing that WSC supertests should be counted in Test records, bumping Lillee up past 400 wickets, Richards, Chappell etc expanding great records!!!!
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby spell_check » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:10 pm

rogernumber10 wrote:No, Clarke not one of the two easier ones, or the two harder West Indians, of the four that are left.

He stayed and carried the Windies attack through a tour of India with that young guy Marshall, who seemed okay.

We could start a whole different thread arguing that WSC supertests should be counted in Test records, bumping Lillee up past 400 wickets, Richards, Chappell etc expanding great records!!!!


They should at least be given first-class status, but I can't see that happening. Really, the ICC owes those matches at least that, because WSC is in essence, responsible for the TV money that is pouring into their coffers from the sub-continent. The way that Packer and co. changed the face of broadcasting and making One Dayers popular, is how the sub-continent is attracting all the money.
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby rogernumber10 » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:13 pm

First class at the absolute least. When you think that much of the first year was no helmets with pretty much all the best quicks playing, on some occassionally very dodgy pitches, it was full on stuff.
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby Hondo » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:26 pm

I think it would be pure stubbornness by the ICC in not at least granting WSC games 1st class status

Reading that book I mentioned, or any commentary on that era, and you can see that the huge, hostile divide that was created between both camps so I doubt the ICC will change their stance while the protaganists are still alive.

Even tho I don't agree with it. IMO I can cope with the WSC not being granted Test status because the games weren't sanctioned by surely 1st class status is OK.
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby Dogwatcher » Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:43 am

What about Albert Padmore?
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby hearts on fire » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:48 am

Mike Proctor?
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby rogernumber10 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:29 am

Dogwatcher wrote:What about Albert Padmore?


very good get of one of the tough ones. One hard West Indian and two easier ones to go.
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Re: Since Brod likes a quiz (let's go back, way back)

Postby rogernumber10 » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:30 am

hearts on fire wrote:Mike Proctor?



Proctor already been named. it's four Paks left. Two easier ones and two pretty tough ones.
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