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Postby johntheclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:30 am

Post in here, anything about the history of the World game, memories, stories, facts, trivia
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Re: History Thread

Postby johntheclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:11 am

If we are talking history, I guess where better to start than the oldest competition in the world.

The first FA cup competition was held in 1871/72.

Thier were only 15 entries, and was played at Kennington Oval with the final played in front of "nearly" 2,000.

The 15 clubs were:
Wanderers
Harrow Chequers
Clapham Rovers
Upton Park
Crystal Palace
Hitchin
Maidenhead
Great Marlow
Queens Park Glasgow
Donnington School
Royal Engineers
Reigate Priory
Hampstead Heathens
Barnes
Civil Service.

There were some real oddities in those days, for example rule 8, by which teams in drawn games could enter the next round at the discretion of the committe. Palace drew with hitchin 0 - 0 in the 1st round so both progressed to the second round where both lost.

Queens park coming from Glasgow, were given byes, up to the semi final, as they had such a long way to travel. Remember this was 1871 and all the teams were amatuers. Anyway, they Wanderers in the semi and draw, but had to forfiet because they couldn't afford to come back to London for the reply. Wanderers went through to the final.

Reigate Priory and Harrow Chequers both forfieted thier 1st round ties, so in effect neither actually competed even though they are listed in the original 15. Donnington School forfieted thier 2nd round match, but also had a bye in the 1st round so they too never actually played in the cup.

Now I find it a bit odd that in the third round, you have Wanderers, Crystal palace, Royal Engineers and Hampstead Heath, who all had progressed by winning thier 2nd round ties (nothing odd there you may say), along with Queens Park Glasgow, who were still using thier bye cards. this meant, with Queens Park already in the semi finals, only two other sides would join them leaving an odd number. (3).

Royal Engineers won thier match 2 - 0 but the game between Wanderers and Crystal Palace is only listed as "draw", so both teams progress to the semi finals, making 4 in all.

Royal Engineers won thier game, but as you know, Queens Park and Wanderers drew, resulting in Queens Park forfieting the replay. The final was between Royal Engineers and Wanderers, and was refereed A Stair who played for Upton Park (who were knocked out in the 1st round). Wanderers won 1 - 0 and the rest is history.
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Re: History Thread

Postby devilsadvocate » Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:22 am

johntheclaret wrote:Wanderers won 1 - 0 and the rest is history.


Bloody Wanderers....always receiving the rub of the green to get through :lol:

On a serious note though, WG Grace actually played for the Wanderers by all accounts, but never played in an FA Cup winning side.

Wanderers were based in Battersea.

What an effort by QP Glasgow to get down for the cup. in the 1870's that would have taken them a couple of weeks I would have thought?
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Re: History Thread

Postby Bully » Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:01 pm

hand of god goal??? i think thats a history topic ;)
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Re: History Thread

Postby Il Duce » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:07 pm

johntheclaret wrote:If we are talking history, I guess where better to start than the oldest competition in the world.

The first FA cup competition was held in 1871/72.

Thier were only 15 entries, and was played at Kennington Oval with the final played in front of "nearly" 2,000.

The 15 clubs were:
Wanderers
Harrow Chequers
Clapham Rovers
Upton Park
Crystal Palace
Hitchin
Maidenhead
Great Marlow
Queens Park Glasgow
Donnington School
Royal Engineers
Reigate Priory
Hampstead Heathens
Barnes
Civil Service.

There were some real oddities in those days, for example rule 8, by which teams in drawn games could enter the next round at the discretion of the committe. Palace drew with hitchin 0 - 0 in the 1st round so both progressed to the second round where both lost.

Queens park coming from Glasgow, were given byes, up to the semi final, as they had such a long way to travel. Remember this was 1871 and all the teams were amatuers. Anyway, they Wanderers in the semi and draw, but had to forfiet because they couldn't afford to come back to London for the reply. Wanderers went through to the final.

Reigate Priory and Harrow Chequers both forfieted thier 1st round ties, so in effect neither actually competed even though they are listed in the original 15. Donnington School forfieted thier 2nd round match, but also had a bye in the 1st round so they too never actually played in the cup.

Now I find it a bit odd that in the third round, you have Wanderers, Crystal palace, Royal Engineers and Hampstead Heath, who all had progressed by winning thier 2nd round ties (nothing odd there you may say), along with Queens Park Glasgow, who were still using thier bye cards. this meant, with Queens Park already in the semi finals, only two other sides would join them leaving an odd number. (3).

Royal Engineers won thier match 2 - 0 but the game between Wanderers and Crystal Palace is only listed as "draw", so both teams progress to the semi finals, making 4 in all.

Royal Engineers won thier game, but as you know, Queens Park and Wanderers drew, resulting in Queens Park forfieting the replay. The final was between Royal Engineers and Wanderers, and was refereed A Stair who played for Upton Park (who were knocked out in the 1st round). Wanderers won 1 - 0 and the rest is history.


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Re: History Thread

Postby johntheclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:34 pm

Page 11 of the FA Cup 2008/2009 thread. I went back and re-read it for some odd reason :roll:
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Re: History Thread

Postby johntheclaret » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:49 pm

How times have changed. You just couldn't see this happening in todays modern game.

Burnley (yes I know) went to Spurs for a top of the table league clash on October 3rd 1959 and got a decent 1 - 1. Spurs were top and Bunley were 3rd.

Nothing particularly special you might think, and you would be right. But then the Clarets drove back down south on the Tuesday to play an inaugral match against Southern League side Folkstone. this was to commenorate Folkstone getting flood lights and they invited the clarets to play the first night match. Burnley won 2 - 1 and played a full strength side.

Then the clarets travelled to Plymouth to play a testimonial for the Argyle assistant trainer Neil Dougall. Why? Because Neill Dougall played for the clarets and Neill's dad Billy still worked for the clarets. Again the clarets played a full strength squad and ran out 6 - 1 winners.

The clarets then travelled back to lancashire to take on Blackpool in the league on Saturday before takiing on the Great Britain Olympic team the following Tuesday.

What is amazing is that in a time where the team would have travelled everywhere by bus, (and no motorways / freeways) the clarets travelled to London, back to Lancashire, back to Kent, across to Devon and then back to Lancashire, whilst playing 4 competitive matches with thier 1st eleven all within 1 week :shock:

What is also quite amazing is that the mighty clarets, and remember they were one of the biggest clubs in league in those days, winning the title in 59 / 60, that they could be bothered to travel all that way to play a non league side just because they got some flood lights, and then go all the way to Plymouth to play a testimonial for an assitant trainer.

you really couldn't see Man U, Chavski, Liverpool or Arsenal making the same gesture in these greedy times.
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Re: History Thread

Postby johntheclaret » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:35 pm

Some early downs before ups

At the start of the 1908 - 09 Newcastle lost at home to Sunderland 9 -1, but went on to win the league title conceding only 32 goals.

Meanwhile Sunderland managed only 2 out of a possible 14 points (remember that in these days you only got 2 points for a win), in the first seven league games but went on to win the League title, and beaten finalists in the FA Cup losing to Villa by the only goal.

this would be like Spurs winning the title last year after thier shocking start.
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Re: History Thread

Postby Il Duce » Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:47 pm

Was surfing through some old football sites etc and found this article written by Thomas Esamie (19/11/1995) of the rise of Mark Viduka, the footnote at the bottom was added on added 6/2/97.

V-Bomber

Every country will have it's young talents. Some will fade, others will lead successful, though not exceptional, careers and a select few will reach the pinnacle of World Soccer. To suggest anything Australian will feature prominently at the top of World soccer may seem laughable but there are a few points to consider.

Firstly we are, as we speak, seeing the emergence of Africa as a soccer power and posing a threat to the Europe/South America domination of the game. In the lead up to this African emergence we saw increasing numbers of African players play in, and star, in European leagues. Also outstanding performances in the FIFA sponsored youth competitions by African nations have earmarked a lot of their youngsters for future international careers. Australia currently has over 90 players in overseas (mainly European) competition of which an increasing number play in the first division of their respective leagues, and command regular places.

Consider the presence of Robbie Slater at Blackburn in England, Ned Zelic at Borussia Dortmund in Germany and Aurelio Vidmar at Standard Liege in Belgium. All teams challenging for league championship. In addition Australia has come fourth in the past two under 20 world championships and also achieved fourth place at the Barcelona Olympics and reached the Quarterfinals of the 1988 games. Increasingly, European clubs are looking to Australia for skilled young players both for their skill and the relatively cheap transfer prices. While this affects the standard of play in the local leagues it does expose Australian players to world class competition on a regular basis. Which bodes well for Australian representative sides.

One young Australian talent in particular has earnt the admiration and consequent expectation of becoming Australia's greatest export yet. Mark Viduka first came into international prominence at an invitational tournament in Venezuela in November 1993. Mark was top scorer at this tournament and took the Australian U17's to the final where they lost to Flamengo of Brazil. On the strength of this performance Australia has subsequently been invited back.

Mark had proven to be a sensation in the youth team of the Melbourne Knights with 37 goals in 18 games. The then coach of the Knights, Branko Culina now with Sydney United, gave the youngster the oppertunity to prove his skills in the senior side. Despite his limited number of games he became the leagues top scorer for that season with 16 goals. Not only that but Mark became the U21 Player of the year as well as the Players Player of the year. An honour which underlined his potential and the respect his fellow players had accorded him, marking him for a fruitful overseas career.

Born on the 9th of October, 1975 in Footscray Victoria it took only 6 years for Mark to begin playing the game and he quickly progressed to various representative sides and he won a place in the Australian Institute of Sport, a centre of excellence for Australian athletes. Mark, who lists his favourite player as Zvonimir Boban and favourite club as Hajduk Split, has a Croatian heritage of which is is proud and this link led him to join up with the Melbourne Knights, a club formed by a Croatian Community keen to maintain a love for the main sport of their homeland.

Ever since the 93kg, 190cm frame of Mark Viduka has been terrorising opposition defences and again Mark has topped the goalscoring charts for the 1994-95 season with 18 goals after all 26 rounds. He added another 3 in the playoffs and played in only two of those games due to his commitments with the Australian U20's side who contested the World Youth Championship in Qatar. His exploits have certainly earnt him special attention by his markers but still Mark is proving that he is a cut above the rest and has added the crowning glory to his Australian career by bringing the League championship to the Melbourne Knights, a title the Knights have failed to win 3 times in the past 4 years despite getting to the championship game. This is in addition to the Cup the Knights won in the preseason.

Mark has represented Australia at all four international levels (U17, U20, U23 (Olympic) and the Socceroos) the crowning glory being his appearance for the Socceroos in the two games against South Africa on June 8 and 12 in 1994. This frequent national representative duty makes Mark very proud but did not sit well with the Melbourne Knights.

A case in point is the tour undertaken by the Australian U20 squad, of which Mark is captain, in early 1994. This was a significant tour as it is envisaged that the 1995 U20 team will form the bulk of the 1996 Olympic team, which in turn will provide young talent for Australia's campaign to participate in the 1998 World Cup. Unfortunately this tour was arranged for the time during which the Knights were still playing mid-week catch-up games after postponing games during the World Cup 1994 campaign against Argentina for both the Knights and Adelaide City. In short they didn't want to let Mark Viduka go, and it was Mark who caught in a tug-of-war between the Australian Soccer Federation and the Knights.

At the time the Knights president Angie Cimera had this to say..

"They want Viduka gallavanting around Europe for four weeks at the most crtical stage of the season, well I can tell you it isn't going to happen... ...We won't be releasing our players for training or friendlies until our season is over. They can try any ban they like but if they do I'll kick up a stink."

The ban he speaks of is the ASF's threat to suspend players who, if called, do not attend national training squads.

Youth coach Les Scheinflug in defence of the timing of the tour explained that it was neccessary to go now in order to face European competition. Any earlier and the conditions would be unfavourable (frozen pitches, matches cancelled due to rain ...etc). If they went later it would clash with the playoff series in Australia and if it was later still then the Europeans themselves would either be too busy in the final stages of their season, or be on their post season break.

In the end the ASF won out and games against Ajax Amsterdam, PSV Eindhoven, Vitesse Arnhem, FC Twente, Go Ahead Eagles and Borussia Dortmund took place. Sadly a Mark Viduka was diagnosed with a Calcium growth in his left thigh, which left him missing out on some of the games.

However half a year later Mark was back to help Australia qualify for the on again off again, back on again World Youth Championships which were held in Qatar during April. The results were :

Played Sept/Beg. Oct 94
All games are played on a bumpy pitch in Lautoka.

Group A
~~~~~~~
Australia 5 - Tahiti 0
(Mark Viduka 15, 20)
(Paul Bilokapic 33)
(Josip Skoko 36)
(Robert Middleby 57)

Australia 5 - Solomon Islands 0
(Nick Lazarevski 19)
(Robert Middleby 76, 89)
(Mark Viduka 78)
(Mark Rudan 85)

Australia 7 - Fiji 0
(Robert Middleby 1, 40)
(Andrew Vlahos 11)
(John Carter 58, 68)
(Dino Menillo 63)
(Mark Rudan 84pk)

Semi-Final
~~~~~~~~~~
Australia 11 - Vanuatu 0
(Ufuk Talay 2)
(Robert Middleby x3)
(Josip Skoko x1)
(Mark Viduka x4 [2 pks])
(Robert Enes 69)
(Joe Vrkic x1)

Final
~~~~~
Australia 1 - New Zealand 0
(Mark Rudan 39)
Clearly Australia were getting used to the easy life before meeting up with New Zealand. However they qualified but failed to meet the expectation of a medal by falling to eventual bronze medallists, and two time winners, Portugal in sudden death extra time.

All this admiration has not gone unnoticed and Mark has reputedly knocked back million dollar contracts from European clubs already, Borussia Dortmund, current home of Socceroo Ned Zelic, among them. Furthermore closer to home Malaysian club Selangor has also made an offer but Mark has made it clear that he sees his future in Europe, diplomatically avoiding the obvious. That the playing standard in Malaysia, though improving, is not even equal to that of the NSL and hardly a league in which to hone your skills for international duty.

Mark is keen to assist Australia to Olympic glory in 1996. By then he will be barely 22 and given Australia can emulate, or better it's 1992 performance it is likely he will be able to command a far higher price with virtually any club in Europe. Mark knows this and has stated in an interview "I would love to represent Australia at the Olympics....It would be anyone's dream and it would be great for my career."

Quarter finalists in 1988 and Semi Finalists in 1992 Australia can reasonably expect to do well in Atlanta, and considering that almost all the Olympic team of 1992 now plays overseas, among their ranks were Mark Bosnich (Aston Villa) and the aforementioned Ned Zelic, it seems inconceivable that Mark will fail to be scoring regularly in Europe in the 1996/97 season, perhaps earlier.

Of course greater exposure will also lead to greater attention. In January 1995 when Australia hosted a 4 nation Olympic tournament involving Japan, Denmark and South Korea the opening game against the Danes saw Viduka marked out by three defenders. Coach Eddie Thomsons mind had been read by his counterpart Jan Poulsen and the lone striker role which Thomson favours does not do Mark any favours. However Mark has shown a remarkable ability to learn and it seems more than likely that he will soon be outwitting the best of defences.

Mark "V-Bomber" Viduka has also seized promotional oppertunities and the ASF uses his appeal to stage training camps and advertising the game to the masses. Mark has also garnered a weekly column in the Australian edition of Shoot magazine where he speaks about his game and the fortunes of the Knights. Australia will inevitably lose Mark Viduka overseas but if he fulfils his promise in Europe he may well inspire many more youngsters in Australia to follow in his footsteps and, perhaps, it will not be quite so unusual to see an Australian heralded as a leading light in the world of soccer.

Footnote : Mark Viduka eventually did go overseas, to Croatia Zagreb, where he has impressed the locals and won awards as well as scoring many goals. This part of his career will no doubt get much attention in the future.


Would have to say a pretty well written article and they did predict he would be a gem etc.
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Re: History Thread

Postby mickey » Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:49 pm

My favourite moment of the NSL.

My 24th Birthday, soaked through from the torrential rain and couldnt give a flying **** how wet i was :D

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Re: History Thread

Postby Il Duce » Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:11 pm

A team that bought about the berth of the Glory.

Perth Kangaroos - a brief history

I'll say it again..

I knew Perth Kangaroos played in the Singapore League, but there was to the best of my knowledge NEVER a Perth team in the Malaysian League. The original list suggested both. Incidentally had the team been in the Malaysian League (and not Singapore) I'd suggest it might still be around today - and there'd be no Perth Glory??? Interesting thoughts..

Players still around? Check out Brett Klucznik's history below, but quite a few have featured with Perth Glory. A couple still do, and many are still around one place or another.

Yes, they did play at Stirling Macedonia's Macedonia Park initially, but later moved to Dorrien Gardens (Perth Italia, now Perth SC).

I attended the first couple of games, but like many others lost interest upon realising what a farce the league was.

Perth Kangaroos - A History [by Brett Klucznik]

Wearing yellow shirts and black shorts, IFC (International Football Club) Perth Kangaroos competed in the Singapore Professional Soccer League, during the 1994 season, taking out the title without loss. Pre-season favourites, their run-away success paved the way for a Perth side to enter the N.S.L. in their own country after years of being ignored by the Australian Soccer Federation. The Kangaroos were controlled by Global Football Australia, a consortium consisting of Joe Claudio (Chairman), Frank Schaper (Managing Director), Trevor Crewe (Director), Jim Davis (Director) and Tom MacKay (Director).

Having been snubbed once again by the national body, the West went in search of first class competition and found it in the S-League, a ten team competition that also featured fellow-Australians the Darwins Cubs. It was hoped at the time that this formula, whereby clubs from different nations would compete for a common championship, would lead to a wider South- East Asian competition. With estimates of a projected audience of over 3 billion, thanks to live television broadcasts of the S-League in Asia, the potential for expansion into Asia was enormous for West Australian, and Australian, soccer.

As it became clear that the competition would be a walk-over for the Kangaroos, home attendances plummeted from over 5000 to as little as 500. Crowds in Singapore were also poor as the premier South-East Asian competition at the time was the Malaysian League where the cream of the Singapore League were playing for the Singapore Lions. In an effort to increase gates, the Kangaroos switched their home matches from Macedonia Park mid-May to night fixtures for the remainder of the season at Dorrien Gardens. Financial losses caused by falling attendances only added to the clubs woes which saw its on-field achievements often over- shadowed by the off-field problems which dogged the club from the start of the campaign.

The Kangaroos had difficulties securing players before the season began, only a last- minute agreement between the Professional Soccer Federation board and the W.A. State League, which the saw the S-League side lease a maximum of three players from each State League club for the duration of the season, saved the club the embarrassment of not fielding a team in the tournament. Even so, they had to call off a practice match against Singaporean side Selangor at the Kiev Sports Ground at half-time when a lack of players forced the Kangaroos out of the game. An hour before the scheduled kick-off time, Perth Italia issued writs which effectively refused to let the Kangaroos use five of their players - Vince Matassa, Gareth and Craig Naven, Dale Wingell and Paul Strudwick - who had been training with the Kangaroos without renewing their club contracts, making them ineligible for the S-League team. An inquiry into the fiasco was called by the W.A. Sports Minister and the matter was cleared up within the week, the Kangaroos agreeing to use only contracted players. Wingell and Strudwick left Italia within weeks in order to make themselves available for the Singapore competition.

In fact, none of those who turned out for the team for their opening S- League match against Gilbraltar Cresent had signed any sort of contract with Global Football Australia at that stage. The players had decided to seek legal advice concerning the contracts they were offered pre-season in order to secure a better deal.

In the last week of April, a combination of events prompted speculation amongst the local soccer scene that all was not well at the fledgling club. Joe Claudio resigned from his position of Chairman to commit himself to his legal career, and only days later the Kangaroos had to postpone their home fixture against Balestier United when that club were unable to find a suitable flight to Perth.

The following week the problems at the club were made public when Global Football Australia declared themselves bankrupt, management of the Kangaroos being handed over to the Soccer Association of W.A. The threat of not being able to complete the season was averted when Arena Investments came to the rescue with a $50 000 package, part of which was that the players would see out the season with no financial benefits.

As the season began to tail-off, and it became obvious the Kangaroos would take out the S-League, the club came into heavy fire from State League clubs when they refused players the right to appear for both the Kangaroos and their State League club on the same weekend. Many of the players believed they were capable of playing twice in two days, and some proved this correct when they put in credible efforts for both sides having been granted special permission to play locally. This refusal on the Kangaroos behalf led to two problems for the S-League side. Firstly, a number of the Kangaroos squad opted to turn out for their State League clubs, where they would get renumeration for playing. And secondly, State League clubs began making their players unavailable for the Kangaroos as the local competition was reaching make-or-break point for some clubs. This further depleted the Kangaroos squad, so much so that coach Gary Marocchi and his assistant Mickey Brennan were called upon to play in the final weeks of the season.

The players that turned out for the team during the season were Vince Matassa, Michael Petkovic, Vladimir Beretovac, Sean Lynch, Alex Cummings, Craig Naven, Marc Wingell, Joe Marrapodi, Stephen Willey, Gareth Naven, Scott Miller, Steve Bourne, Ray Marinovic, Paul Dymock, Vince Tana, Paul McVittie, Dale Wingell, Jason Van Rooy, Taki Nicholaidis, Gary Lees and Paul Strudwick. The 'non-playing' staff was made up of coach Gary Marocchi, assistant coach Mickey Brennan and club physio Barry Tate.

Captained initially by Craig Naven, and later by his brother Gareth, the Kangaroos were never challenged in their quest for the championship which they clinched three rounds before the season was over. Strudwick topped the S-League scorers chart with 16 goals and was rewarded by being selected for the S-League select XI, while Lees came in a close second on the scorers charts bagging 15. Gareth Naven took out the "West Australian" Player of the Year Award polling 40 votes, 15 clear of Scott Miller and Vladimir Beretovac on 25. Next up were Paul Strudwick (24), Steve Bourne (19) and Gary Lees (18).

In a revealing article written for the "West Australian" (26/07/94) newspaper titled "Kangaroos are big loser off the field", Mel Moffat questioned the future of the club whose original committment was for three years in the S-League. He put the full cost of the venture in the vicinity of $100 000 once all things had been taken into consideration, although the true cost was never publicly released.

Requiring home gates of around 3 000 to remain solvent, the club started off well but the fans fell away rapidly with home gates for the second half of the season averaging just 600. Moffat notes that the Football Association of Singapore went back on their original deal with the Perth Kangaroos by removing their best players for the Singapore Lions, who were pulling crowds around 50 000 in the Malaysian League. Roger Lefort, then executive director of the Soccer Administration of W.A., has gone on record to say that this was the killer blow to the league which was severely weakened and relegated to second-class status within its own country. And the failure to attract major sponsorship for the team cost them considerably.

Moffat calculated that on a weekly salary of $400 per match, the players lost over $60 000 by playing 12 matches for nothing once G.F.A. left the scene. Coaching staff were estimated to add a further $10 000 to this bill. A players fund, set up to raise money for those who took to the field, raised $20 000 (part of which was Strudwicks $2 500 for being the leagues leading scorer) which was split amongst the squad at the completion of the season. Arena Investments are said to have been out of pocket by around $20 000 once they'd paid for the teams travel and accomodation expenses, despite having collected the (Singapore) $70 000 prize-money which came with the trophy.

Despite the huge financial loss, Gary Marocchi believed the venture was worthwhile, "With next year's move to the N.S.L. in mind, it was a good experience for our players to take part in an international competition." He went on to say that he supported the club taking part in the S-League the following season in order to benefit the players who would make up Perth's new National Soccer League side.

The club was laid to rest at a meeting of W.A. soccer officials late in August when it was decided that the state would focus it's attention on getting a team in the Australian domestic competition.

PERTH KANGAROOS - THE RESULTS
Note : Games marked with an asterix (*) were friendlies. All others are
S-League matches.

Feb 21 Selangor* (Malaysia) (N) 1-1 Lees
Mar 3 Selangor* (Malaysia) (H) 1-4 ?
Mar 12 Spearwood Dalmatinac* (A) 8-2 Lees 3, Marinovic 2, D.Wingell, Lynch
Mar 15 Bayswater Inter* (A) 9-1 Strudwick 2, G.Naven 2, Lees 2, McVittie 2, Marinovic
Mar 17 Dianella Serbia* (A) 1-1 Strudwick
Mar 27 Gilbraltar Cresent (H) 2-0 Lees 2
Apr 3 Gaylang International (H) 4-1 Lees 3, G.Naven
Apr 5 W.A. Selection* (N) 5-0 Beretovac, +4
Apr 9 Tyrwhitt (A) 3-0 McVittie, Bourne, Lees
Apr 16 Jurong Town (H) 11-0 McVittie 3, Lees, Miller, Strudwick 3, Marinovic, own goal, Willey
Apr 19 Perth Italia* (A) 3-2 ?
Apr 24 Darwin Cubs (A) 5-1 McVittie 2, Bourne, Miller, own goal
May 7 Singapore Police (A) 3-0 McVittie, D.Wingell 2
May 15 Tiong Bahru (H) 4-0 Strudwick 2, Marinovic, Cummings
May 22 SAFSA (H) 10-1 Strudwick 4, Bourne 2, D.Wingell 4
May 28 Gilbraltar Cresent (A) 3-0 Bourne 2, Strudwick
Jun 5 Gayland International (A) 2-1 G.Naven 2
Jun 11 Tyrwitt (H)
Jun ? Jurong Town (A) 3-0 G.Naven, D.Wingell, Lynch
Jun 25 Darwin Cubs (H) 2-1 G.Naven, Marinovic
Jul 2 Balestier United (H) 5-0 Lees 2, D.Wingell 3
Jul 8 Olyroos* (N) 0-2
Jul 10 Singapore Police (H) 5-0 Miller, Lees 3, Nicolaidis
Jul 17 Tiong Bahru (A) 4-2 Lees 2, Tana, Strudwick
Jul 22 SAFSA (A) 1-1 Marinovic
Jul 23 Balesteir United (A) 4-0 Strudwick 4

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Re: History Thread

Postby mickey » Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:54 pm

Good read there duce..

Never really bothered to read up on the kangaroos, but in that write up, there are a lot of famous and familiar glory names!
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Re: History Thread

Postby whufc » Thu Oct 27, 2011 4:28 pm

didnt West Ham win the world cup in 66 ;) 8)
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Re: History Thread

Postby mickey » Tue Nov 08, 2011 6:53 pm

Being able to get a match day programme at an A league game is a thing of the past... except in Perth, where this weekend sees its return.

Was something I always liked getting as I walked into hindmarsh as a visiting supporter... still have a few west Adelaide and city ones at home somewhere (if the mrs hasn't ditched them)
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Re: History Thread

Postby devilsadvocate » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:37 pm

Anyone seen the furore created by Gerrard Houllier in his book regarding David Ginola?

Houllier is a pathetic little man. To blame a side's exit from a major comp based on 1 action in attack is just deplorable.

Thoughts on who is to blame for this goal???:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMbCxl4hnzA&feature=player_embedded
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Re: History Thread

Postby mickey » Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:54 am

How do/should players who have multiple clubs be remembered... what club gets to claim ownership etc??

A couple of examples...

Alan Shearer-
Southampton 118 games
Blackburn 138 games and a league title
Newcastle 303 games and bugger all trophies

Damian Mori
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Adelaide City 217 games, 1 championship, 3 league scoring trophies
Perth Glory 129 games, 2 championships, 2 league scoring trophies
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Re: History Thread

Postby mickey » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:00 am

Mori's record doesn't include the local league games.. only NSL/A League
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Re: History Thread

Postby Dirko » Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:42 am

mickey wrote:How do/should players who have multiple clubs be remembered... what club gets to claim ownership etc??

A couple of examples...

Alan Shearer-
Southampton 118 games
Blackburn 138 games and a league title
Newcastle 303 games and bugger all trophies

Damian Mori
Debut with South Melbourne,
Melbourne knights
Adelaide City 217 games, 1 championship, 3 league scoring trophies
Perth Glory 129 games, 2 championships, 2 league scoring trophies


Shearer = Newcastle. Mori = City.

For me it's the club that first come to mind when you mention the player.

Beckham = Man U, Henry = Arsenal, Kewell = Leeds :lol:
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Re: History Thread

Postby johntheclaret » Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:35 am

Brazilian international football is 100 years old this year
Their 1st official international match was a 3-0 defeat to Argentina


However their 1st unofficial match was against Exeter City and to go our this Brazil will play Exeter City later this year.
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Re: History Thread

Postby whufc » Tue Jul 08, 2014 3:21 pm

What about West Ham winning the World Cup in 66
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