2018 / 2022 World Cup Bids

[Jim05]

Qatar had done a deal months ago. The asian fc president (who just happens to be from qatar) was going to challenge sepp blatter for presidency of fifa next year. Blatter promised qatar the world cup if he would withdraw his bid and allow blatter to be re-elected unopposed. We could have bribed them millions and the result would have been the same.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Funny how the "Come play" signs are still up around the A League grounds. Amazed that the signs have not been thrown on the ground, p****d on and set on fire.

[dedja]

Qatar had done a deal months ago. The asian fc president (who just happens to be from qatar) was going to challenge sepp blatter for presidency of fifa next year. Blatter promised qatar the world cup if he would withdraw his bid and allow blatter to be re-elected unopposed. We could have bribed them millions and the result would have been the same.

That's not what you stated yesterday ...

Qatar are starting to worry me. They have done a vote deal with spain and so far qatar have been guaranteed 8 of the 22 votes

[dedja]

such rubbish...the only winners are the fifa delegates who just had their entire families set up for life.....hope it fails miserably........so corrupt!

True, but we knew this going in and we didn't squeal til after the event, surely we all knew what we were up against?

Give the man a cigar ...

[LaughingKookaburra]

Does make you think from an outsiders point of view why the hell would you hold a voting system for 2 world cups at the same time. You would never see the IOC consider 2 seperate games bids at once. Seems pretty amateurish........

[Jim05]

No sorry got that wrong. I got the information from bbc. They reported that spain and qatar had done a deal but obviously they were off the mark.
The secondary statement was also alluded to by simon hill, i guess no one will ever know the truth.
Whatever the reason you can be sure that blatter is involved, not much happens without him knowing and he would do anything to consolidate his position

[dedja]

Does make you think from an outsiders point of view why the hell would you hold a voting system for 2 world cups at the same time. You would never see the IOC consider 2 seperate games bids at once. Seems pretty amateurish........

Agree ... was up* for the announcement and it was amateur hour.

[dedja]

No sorry got that wrong. I got the information from bbc. They reported that spain and qatar had done a deal but obviously they were off the mark.
The secondary statement was also alluded to by simon hill, i guess no one will ever know the truth.
Whatever the reason you can be sure that blatter is involved, not much happens without him knowing and he would do anything to consolidate his position

Fair enough ... as Spermy stated, the Aussies knew what the system was like when they decided to bid.

They managed to crack the IOC for 2000 ... surely this mob isn't really any different?

[Jim05]

Yeah we knew what we were up against. But why all the bullshit, wouldnt you just rather they come out and say that they have chosen qatar so dont bother wasting your time and money.
I think the ioc and fifa are complete opposites. The ioc chooses host nations which will most benefit the regions and tv rights. They try and make money and showcase the games around the world. They also have a fair riotation system. Fifa are a bunch of self serving individuals that are only out for themselves. The rotation system is a joke, the european nations have fifa over a barrel. If fifa were serious they would rotate regularly between the conferences

[johntheclaret]

Well that was a load of old shite. England never going to get the world cup as long as the likes of Blatter and Platini are around.
Let's look at the facts;
England haven't hosted a world cup since 1966
We are one of the premier nations on the planet for football with the EPL the biggest sporting money earner of all. More people watch EPL worldwide than any other sport by a country mile.
England have the infrastructure to host a tournament of this size in both football stadia and facilities for visitors, training facilities and press.

Forget about any bullshite regarding hooliganism. That's a smoke screen put out by the no nothings. If you want to see real hooliganism these days try Holland where they still play behind steel fencing. Or maybe Russia where fans just kill each other whilst the Russian mafia determine who wins each game.

We don't get on with Europe and they don't get on with us and of course we are the only nation who was prepared to stand up and show how corrupt FIFA is

[johntheclaret]

Watched the Bid last night, thought it was a bit ametuerish didnt have much polish to it, cringed a few times including when Hoges presented himself, is that how he paid off his tax debt to the country?

Really hope we get it obviously but dont have a good feeling.

I would hope FIFA would know they wont make the $$$ in Australia, but wouldnt have thought the next world cup in Brazil would be considered a wealthy tournament.
There comes a time when its more important than the $$.

Brazil > England > Australia > US > Europe seems a pretty fair schedule for the next 5 cups

Say what??

A population of 193 Million soccer nuts, Large cheap labour force for building new stadia, siginificant established soccer infrastructure only three hours behind GMT. So three games comencing 2hrs apart starting at 3 pm Rio time can be broadcast prime-time into Europe.

Absolute marketers delight - FIFA are printing money as we speak.

Just one of the advantages of the USA bid - games can start in the afternoon and be broadcast prime-time back into Europe

I was thinking the same thing. Brazil, huge football mad population, some fantastic stadia and one of a few nations that truly qualify as a world cup host.

[johntheclaret]

England's bid has taken a major setback following a riot at the Birmingham v Aston Villa Carling Cup match

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/fa ... 5964345160

you mean it is just another excuse. Lets get it right, it was hardly a "riot", but agree, a mjor set back for a bid that had no chance anyway.

[johntheclaret]

The rotation system is a joke, the european nations have fifa over a barrel. If fifa were serious they would rotate regularly between the conferences

Dont agree Jim. you fail to recognise that South America and Europe are the only two true continents where football is the national sport. What is a joke is Fifa speading the world Cup around in a tainted belief that it will engender the game to those nations. They tried in the in US and it failed. Has the US developed that game any further since the last world cup, not a jot. Most of the kids still see Grid Iron, Beaseball or Basketball as their choice. Even Ice Hockey ranks higher than soccer..

They tried it in Japan, and now South Africa. The problem is that it is more about how much the voting panel can screw out of the system and one way is to give non entities a crack.

Anyone who really believes Qatar is a serious winner based on footballing interest needs to go to a hospital immedialtely. Qatar bribed their way in, just like Russia has done.
South Africe was a huge flop, with 1/2 empty stadia and ticket prices that excluded most of the locals anyway. And now we have a situation where FIFA claim they want to give other nations a shot in the name of soccer becoming a true world game. Bollocks. Why not give it to India, or Afgahnistan even.

Europe and South America won the right to hold alternative world cups because that is where football is played and watched on a serious level. Based on FIFA's "theory" why dont we give Korea the Rugby World Cup, or Paraguay the Cricket world Cup !!!

[smithy]

I really think that to get a fair result, FIFA need to change their voting system to that of the IOC.
FIFA narrows it down to a half dozen nations.
EVERY participating country from all confederations gets a vote on the host nation.
It's harder to pay off 140+ voting members than 22

[JK]

It's harder to pay off 140+ voting members than 22

I still wouldnt put it past them

[Wedgie]

We don't get on with Europe and they don't get on with us and of course we are the only nation who was prepared to stand up and show how corrupt FIFA is

Its not just Europe mate, noone in the world likes Poms!

[Jim05]

The poms shafted us aswell. What happened to the promise of england and aus voting for each other?
We kept up our end of the bargain but the poms voted for south korea.
Thanks guys

[johntheclaret]

The poms shafted us aswell. What happened to the promise of england and aus voting for each other?
We kept up our end of the bargain but the poms voted for south korea.
Thanks guys

Is that another fact there Jim. I thought it was against the rules for nations to collude

[johntheclaret]

We don't get on with Europe and they don't get on with us and of course we are the only nation who was prepared to stand up and show how corrupt FIFA is

Its not just Europe mate, noone in the world likes Poms!

Especially now the cricket season is on

[7-Dog]

Just read on fox sports about how England, US and Australia are pushing for a reform of the system.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/wo ... 5966193736

I knew that we had been shafted with the 1 vote, but I was unaware that between England, the US & Australia we all got just 6 votes combined.