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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Front & Centre » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:21 pm

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Cheese Twisties wrote:Anyone got a list of players who have been invited/threatened out to Barbarians training?

Aldinga-Z Ellis,A Halime,T Harman/Brighton-L Price/Christies-J Crate,M Gurnett,H Mackin/Cove-M Galley,J Hill,C Miller/Towns-C Blyth,M Halsey,H Tohl/H Valley-J Brown,J Battifuoco,J Eagleton,B Gordon,S Mckenzie,T Mcnamara,T Pearce,N Peterson gray,D Ruddock,B Squire,M Suckkel,J Shurgott/Marion-J Carter/M/Vale-M Bode,L Corrie,D Earl,K Santos/M Park-G Baldwin,M Barrie,T Cranston,B Mcconnell,B Murthy,J Ruwoldt,M Ruwoldt/Noarlunga-L Bowd,A Carter,S Miller,C Minns,N Mott,L Sutton/Lonsdale-Baxter/Port Nlg-I Brown,L Obrien,C Ohagan,T Tedmanson,R Mckay/Reynella-S Bradshaw,L Ciampa,J Farrier,R Mahony,R Richardson.


I wasnt at the game on the weekend but at least 3 of those HV lads didnt play cos of injury and I reckon another couple didnt finish the game - will be interesting to see who plays association :shock:
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby happilyretired » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:51 pm

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Pushback wrote:Bloods4 life you are not even close there at all mate players have been told to not play this week because they didn't train maybe you get things straight before you make claims look at the teams that played this week and you can see that 9 starting A graders didn't play because they didn't train or injured and 5 B grade where not picked because of not training form the teams that played flagstaff hill


Like I stated it was just what I heard, and I actually heard it from an aldinga player. Regardless of what I've said a 208 point loss in the wet to a side that was a bit down on expected form in the last month is demoralising!! I hope something can be done. A move to the GSFL wouldn't make life any easier and they're too far south for the SAAFL. My guess would be if they've got money to spend, spend it on players who are worth it and are local so that they can attend training twice a week.


If this is true that players were not selected for poor training record then i guess the club can be applauded for having such a strong stance. Lets hope this improves some players attitude to training and they can get out on the track because the scoreline in the A's and B's from the weekend is a disaster.

Just by looking at the sportingpulse page and the selected teams it appears that the B grade only fielded 19 players? and also at least 2 of them doubled up into the A grade? Not good signs for a club that fielded 3 full teams in the seniors and also an U/18's...
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Cheese Twisties » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:55 pm

Front & Centre wrote:
shoe boy wrote:
Cheese Twisties wrote:Anyone got a list of players who have been invited/threatened out to Barbarians training?

Aldinga-Z Ellis,A Halime,T Harman/Brighton-L Price/Christies-J Crate,M Gurnett,H Mackin/Cove-M Galley,J Hill,C Miller/Towns-C Blyth,M Halsey,H Tohl/H Valley-J Brown,J Battifuoco,J Eagleton,B Gordon,S Mckenzie,T Mcnamara,T Pearce,N Peterson gray,D Ruddock,B Squire,M Suckkel,J Shurgott/Marion-J Carter/M/Vale-M Bode,L Corrie,D Earl,K Santos/M Park-G Baldwin,M Barrie,T Cranston,B Mcconnell,B Murthy,J Ruwoldt,M Ruwoldt/Noarlunga-L Bowd,A Carter,S Miller,C Minns,N Mott,L Sutton/Lonsdale-Baxter/Port Nlg-I Brown,L Obrien,C Ohagan,T Tedmanson,R Mckay/Reynella-S Bradshaw,L Ciampa,J Farrier,R Mahony,R Richardson.


I wasnt at the game on the weekend but at least 3 of those HV lads didnt play cos of injury and I reckon another couple didnt finish the game - will be interesting to see who plays association :shock:

What's the offical rules on players missing through injury/work/got something else on? Will the SFL be dishing out suspensions to anyone who doest play? Surely not?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Backliner » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:49 pm

As a Shark's supporter I couldn't really care less how we go against the top 6 teams, my opinion. Save the best team when you have a chance of a win. Are we going to get close to Happy Valley? Unlikely, do I think we should play injured players, no I don't. My opinion and I know a few others agree, where our club is at a 10,20 or 30 goal loss to Noarlunga might be disappointing but be realistic. Marion, Lonsdale and Hackham would be the teams I'd like our best team against, maybe Flaggies and the next tier. Maybe next year if we can pick up some players I'll take an interest when we play top teams. 12 years of the same, being realistic is better than crying over losing to teams pushing for top 4. Not involved with coaching so they may think differently as would the players.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby asert » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:55 pm

Your losses against teams like Saturday backliner will hurt your recruiting full stop. Not many quality players (besides Gary Ablett) would put themselves in a position to get wholloped like that. There are select few that if the price was right they would but I think your price would be double to triple what anyone else would pay them. Just my opinion
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Cash 123 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:25 pm

Backliner wrote:As a Shark's supporter I couldn't really care less how we go against the top 6 teams, my opinion. Save the best team when you have a chance of a win. Are we going to get close to Happy Valley? Unlikely, do I think we should play injured players, no I don't. My opinion and I know a few others agree, where our club is at a 10,20 or 30 goal loss to Noarlunga might be disappointing but be realistic. Marion, Lonsdale and Hackham would be the teams I'd like our best team against, maybe Flaggies and the next tier. Maybe next year if we can pick up some players I'll take an interest when we play top teams. 12 years of the same, being realistic is better than crying over losing to teams pushing for top 4. Not involved with coaching so they may think differently as would the players.


Thats a stupid comment backliner and probably why your club is where it is. You should just pray the competition splits into 2 divisions to avoid your club gettin embarrassed every second week like this.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:41 pm

Cash 123 wrote:
Backliner wrote:As a Shark's supporter I couldn't really care less how we go against the top 6 teams, my opinion. Save the best team when you have a chance of a win. Are we going to get close to Happy Valley? Unlikely, do I think we should play injured players, no I don't. My opinion and I know a few others agree, where our club is at a 10,20 or 30 goal loss to Noarlunga might be disappointing but be realistic. Marion, Lonsdale and Hackham would be the teams I'd like our best team against, maybe Flaggies and the next tier. Maybe next year if we can pick up some players I'll take an interest when we play top teams. 12 years of the same, being realistic is better than crying over losing to teams pushing for top 4. Not involved with coaching so they may think differently as would the players.


Thats a stupid comment backliner and probably why your club is where it is. You should just pray the competition splits into 2 divisions to avoid your club gettin embarrassed every second week like this.


Agree. If the expectations of the club are similar to those sentiments, they might as well not even exist. Although i highly doubt that this opinion would be shared by coaching staff, players and committee. It must be tough for the club, but they have good facilities, a growing residential population and some good footy people, so there's plenty to be positive about.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Down the Hill » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:23 pm

But the Aldinga area still needs a secondary school otherwise they will continue to lose junior players to Willunga or other clubs that are close to the schools that Aldinga teenagers attend. Its the same issue for all clubs and the reason why OSB Lonsdale, Marion and Morphy Park have problems.

The competitiveness of the Aldinga 16s and 14s and a good Mini's program shows promise but retaining those players when your seniors cop regular heavy losses is a cycle that they have to try and break otherwise the very best of those young lads won't be around to improve the seniors in a few years from now. Obviously getting an Under 18 team will help but it is a worry that they were able to have an Under 18 team last year whilst having a reasonably competitive Under 16 team in each of the last 2 years yet no Under 18 team this year. So what has happened to those Under 16 players from 2011 and 2012?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Bloods4Life » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:09 pm

Down the Hill wrote:But the Aldinga area still needs a secondary school otherwise they will continue to lose junior players to Willunga or other clubs that are close to the schools that Aldinga teenagers attend. Its the same issue for all clubs and the reason why OSB Lonsdale, Marion and Morphy Park have problems.

The competitiveness of the Aldinga 16s and 14s and a good Mini's program shows promise but retaining those players when your seniors cop regular heavy losses is a cycle that they have to try and break otherwise the very best of those young lads won't be around to improve the seniors in a few years from now. Obviously getting an Under 18 team will help but it is a worry that they were able to have an Under 18 team last year whilst having a reasonably competitive Under 16 team in each of the last 2 years yet no Under 18 team this year. So what has happened to those Under 16 players from 2011 and 2012?


As you said...........probably willunga I would've thought??
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Bloods4Life » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:21 pm

Backliner wrote:As a Shark's supporter I couldn't really care less how we go against the top 6 teams, my opinion. Save the best team when you have a chance of a win. Are we going to get close to Happy Valley? Unlikely, do I think we should play injured players, no I don't. My opinion and I know a few others agree, where our club is at a 10,20 or 30 goal loss to Noarlunga might be disappointing but be realistic. Marion, Lonsdale and Hackham would be the teams I'd like our best team against, maybe Flaggies and the next tier. Maybe next year if we can pick up some players I'll take an interest when we play top teams. 12 years of the same, being realistic is better than crying over losing to teams pushing for top 4. Not involved with coaching so they may think differently as would the players.


One of the worst posts I've read. Losers mentality. I hope for aldingas sake they don't think this way down at shark park!!!!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Straight Line » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:31 pm

Backliner wrote:As a Shark's supporter I couldn't really care less how we go against the top 6 teams, my opinion. Save the best team when you have a chance of a win. Are we going to get close to Happy Valley? Unlikely, do I think we should play injured players, no I don't. My opinion and I know a few others agree, where our club is at a 10,20 or 30 goal loss to Noarlunga might be disappointing but be realistic. Marion, Lonsdale and Hackham would be the teams I'd like our best team against, maybe Flaggies and the next tier. Maybe next year if we can pick up some players I'll take an interest when we play top teams. 12 years of the same, being realistic is better than crying over losing to teams pushing for top 4. Not involved with coaching so they may think differently as would the players.


Thats a terrible attitude :shock: I wouldn't think any lower clubs would save or rest players when playing top teams and if you still get beaten by the lower clubs were does that leave you :oops: Better to try and be competitive in all games regardless who you play.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby happilyretired » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:32 pm

Bloods4Life wrote:
Backliner wrote:As a Shark's supporter I couldn't really care less how we go against the top 6 teams, my opinion. Save the best team when you have a chance of a win. Are we going to get close to Happy Valley? Unlikely, do I think we should play injured players, no I don't. My opinion and I know a few others agree, where our club is at a 10,20 or 30 goal loss to Noarlunga might be disappointing but be realistic. Marion, Lonsdale and Hackham would be the teams I'd like our best team against, maybe Flaggies and the next tier. Maybe next year if we can pick up some players I'll take an interest when we play top teams. 12 years of the same, being realistic is better than crying over losing to teams pushing for top 4. Not involved with coaching so they may think differently as would the players.


One of the worst posts I've read. Losers mentality. I hope for aldingas sake they don't think this way down at shark park!!!!



:shock: Wow, that is not a good reflection of an attitude at a football club.. i think "losers mentality" does sum up that post... I hope for Aldingas sake this is not spread club wide
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby vics01 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:07 pm

HEY DTH

Heard a rumor that one of your junior coaches fancies himself as a boxer? Offering to give junior players from the opposition a boxing lesson after the game.. Not really very civil, I imagine a bit frightening for young 15 year old. tut tut tut tut
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Oldman Munga » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:15 pm

More fuel on the Christies /Noarlunga fire with a few Senior Christies boys handing out a touchup to a first yr senior (18yr old) Shoeboy on Sat Night in town , Real manly effort fellas you are a credit to your Football Club and Parents
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:40 pm

Oldman Munga wrote:More fuel on the Christies /Noarlunga fire with a few Senior Christies boys handing out a touchup to a first yr senior (18yr old) Shoeboy on Sat Night in town , Real manly effort fellas you are a credit to your Football Club and Parents


What ever happened to what happens on the field stays on the field? I'm sure there are 2 sides to the story though, but if this keeps going it has the potential to really boil over.
I truly hope when these things happen, that people think of Sam Davis and what happened to him from one ill conceived punch and tell some of these people to pull their heads in.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Moe » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:06 pm

Something positive:
Another enjoyable Under 8 game last weekend, this time at Cove.
Thanks to young Dion, the coach of Cove. It was great to see all the kids have a crack, have some fun & thanks for loaning us 2 youngsters every 1/4 to give all the kids a full game.
The umpire we have had the past 2 weeks has been fantastic as well, in fact all the umps have been good this season.
Cove's BBQ: Excellent value.

Cheers.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Backliner » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:24 pm

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Bloods4Life wrote:
Backliner wrote:As a Shark's supporter I couldn't really care less how we go against the top 6 teams, my opinion. Save the best team when you have a chance of a win. Are we going to get close to Happy Valley? Unlikely, do I think we should play injured players, no I don't. My opinion and I know a few others agree, where our club is at a 10,20 or 30 goal loss to Noarlunga might be disappointing but be realistic. Marion, Lonsdale and Hackham would be the teams I'd like our best team against, maybe Flaggies and the next tier. Maybe next year if we can pick up some players I'll take an interest when we play top teams. 12 years of the same, being realistic is better than crying over losing to teams pushing for top 4. Not involved with coaching so they may think differently as would the players.


One of the worst posts I've read. Losers mentality. I hope for aldingas sake they don't think this way down at shark park!!!!



:shock: Wow, that is not a good reflection of an attitude at a football club.. i think "losers mentality" does sum up that post... I hope for Aldingas sake this is not spread club wide


My opinion, not the club's. How come so much talk about 2 divs, a div 1 team is tipped to beat a div 2 team by 130 points and there's surprise over a 208 point score line, 130 more acceptable?
Last year was 150 points to the Shoes, then there's the Flaggies score line last year. Multiple wins so far so definitely an improvement on last season so I was saying we're moving forward and some games will count for more, recruiting would be harder 0-18 than 5-13. Just being honest.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:26 pm

Moe wrote:Something positive:
Another enjoyable Under 8 game last weekend, this time at Cove.
Thanks to young Dion, the coach of Cove. It was great to see all the kids have a crack, have some fun & thanks for loaning us 2 youngsters every 1/4 to give all the kids a full game.
The umpire we have had the past 2 weeks has been fantastic as well, in fact all the umps have been good this season.
Cove's BBQ: Excellent value.

Cheers.


Great to hear. Love seeing the minis go around, footy at its best for pure enjoyment.
Lets hope we have an incident free year and the kids get to enjoy a carnival this time with parents who understand the concept of junior footy.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Down the Hill » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:40 pm

Nice to hear your positive feedback Moe. Onto Christies Beach. I thought they were worried about the culture brewing under their previous coach but it seems they have a current lot that think winning a few games means they are a law unto themselves. I wonder how many actually win a genuine hard ball out on the field. Just take it easy boys or you will undo a lot of the good work of Cratey and others. Having said that I may have to give the Bombers a miss In a few weeks time and head to the Noarlunga v Christies match.

And Vics, thanks for your ongoing interest in The Brighton Bombers. I have no idea what may have been said but one thing I do have a very good idea on is that a certain Under 16 team in the SFL make Hawthorn's unsociable footy of a few years ago look like tiddlywinks. In fact it seems to be encouraged by the coaching staff and some parents. To be honest I'm disappointed that the club, who I respect greatly, has not intervened because there is big trouble brewing with this group. One of the lads learnt his trade at another SFL club so could also be a slur on the former leader of that club.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby vics01 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:14 pm

DTH
And Vics, thanks for your ongoing interest in The Brighton Bombers. I have no idea what may have been said but one thing I do have a very good idea on is that a certain Under 16 team in the SFL make Hawthorn's unsociable footy of a few years ago look like tiddlywinks. In fact it seems to be encouraged by the coaching staff and some parents. To be honest I'm disappointed that the club, who I respect greatly, has not intervened because there is big trouble brewing with this group. One of the lads learnt his trade at another SFL club so could also be a slur on the former leader of that club.


DTH with a response like that you should be running for a seat on 14 Sept. Says a lot and yet says nothing. Does not address the issue. An adult threatening a child is a big no no. But then we both know the adult involved has a reputation of doing his own thing not the club or right thing.

As you well know we have both been involved in clubs that have junior players who get a little out of control at times. It is for the adults to guide not threaten and get involved, especially as officials of the game.
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