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Re: Southern Football League

Postby AFLflyer » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:52 am

Tubby wrote:So at this stage then, he will be playing this week ????



Im not sirring sh**T here, but as mentioned somewhere i think the Vikings should probably get on the front foot here and stand him down pending the investigation... Even if none of the HV management saw the actual incident.

From reading the HV posters on here it seems they would agree with a strong stance like this. Comments??
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby shoe boy » Wed Sep 11, 2013 11:07 am

Tubby wrote:So at this stage then, he will be playing this week ????


DUTY OF CARE! Surely not.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Front & Centre » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:27 pm

Cant imagine any player would be "stood down" prior to any SFL hearing - I am sure if the report against MVP hadnt been withdrawn they wouldnt have stood down their player who I believe is their captain/coach.

how about letting the tribunal case take it's course and we all move onto the footy
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:46 pm

Front & Centre wrote:Cant imagine any player would be "stood down" prior to any SFL hearing - I am sure if the report against MVP hadnt been withdrawn they wouldnt have stood down their player who I believe is their captain/coach.

how about letting the tribunal case take it's course and we all move onto the footy


I work with one of the victims best mates, apparently happened in the first 5 mins of the game and 100m off the ball and the damage is severe and permanent.

If the player wants to win a premiership in that fashion then it says a lot about them, and rightly or wrongly, a lot about the club...
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby heater31 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:02 pm

Mister Footy wrote:Not from Darwin - Moyle from Karratha


Reynella are not paying a cent for that.

Believe, since he is FIFO worker his employer will be paying and as luck would have it he is due back on Saturday.....
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Front & Centre » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:14 pm

heater31 wrote:
Mister Footy wrote:Not from Darwin - Moyle from Karratha


Reynella are not paying a cent for that.

Believe, since he is FIFO worker his employer will be paying and as luck would have it he is due back on Saturday.....


Heater I can tell you that I know for a fact that is not the case he has been granted special leave
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:33 pm

Yank Man wrote:Sad part is I know all the players involved, but, the eerie part is Towns sacked Dinger some years ago after winning a flag and now he has the second laugh. This goes way beyond normal footy. Sad for the player concerned and I feel for him but you let what takes place, take place. HVFC continue on for another flag. ;)


What is this, I don't even
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby heater31 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:39 pm

Front & Centre wrote:
heater31 wrote:
Mister Footy wrote:Not from Darwin - Moyle from Karratha


Reynella are not paying a cent for that.

Believe, since he is FIFO worker his employer will be paying and as luck would have it he is due back on Saturday.....


Heater I can tell you that I know for a fact that is not the case he has been granted special leave



hmmm not what I was told a few weeks ago.... Maybe the roster changed :?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby MZ » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:11 pm

Assault can steal your future and your actions could result in negative impacts on your family, your employment, overseas travel, the guilt of taking another person’s life and could possibly result in a criminal record.

Victims of assault don’t always walk away with just a bruise. Permanent disability, ongoing care by family and friends, gaining or retaining employment and other future prospects can all result.

But, unfortunately, violence still exists.

How do we, in the football community, help to stop this rising trend and change a culture that says violence is acceptable?

I firmly believe football clubs, the breeding ground for young mens values, can especially play a major role.

The sooner Clubs take strong action against their own players for breaking the rules the better. Clubs, historically, have not been good at ensuring their own players are accountable for their actions.

Clubs, lead by their Presidents and Coaches need to be strong and make a stance. Imagine the message that will send the 1000+ young players involved in the SFL alone.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Oldman Munga » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:33 pm

leftpeg wrote:
Mister Footy wrote:Reynella obviously got some dough left at the pointy end of the season - apparently they are flying in a star player for Sundays game


don't they realise that Valleys will just snipe him in the first quarter?

Yeah theres one " decent bloke " who will be running around there on Sunday afternoon knowing he has nothing to lose
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby HardenUp » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:09 pm

MZ wrote:Assault can steal your future and your actions could result in negative impacts on your family, your employment, overseas travel, the guilt of taking another person’s life and could possibly result in a criminal record.

Victims of assault don’t always walk away with just a bruise. Permanent disability, ongoing care by family and friends, gaining or retaining employment and other future prospects can all result.

But, unfortunately, violence still exists.

How do we, in the football community, help to stop this rising trend and change a culture that says violence is acceptable?

I firmly believe football clubs, the breeding ground for young mens values, can especially play a major role.

The sooner Clubs take strong action against their own players for breaking the rules the better. Clubs, historically, have not been good at ensuring their own players are accountable for their actions.

Clubs, lead by their Presidents and Coaches need to be strong and make a stance. Imagine the message that will send the 1000+ young players involved in the SFL alone.


This matter is a blatant case of Negligence by the SFL and officials at the game. The umpires and league have a Duty of Care toward all players and clearly both have failed to be upheld. Therefore, if appropriate action is taken, SFL & Player who is responsible would be liable for ALL damages including loss of income!
All football leagues need to uniform approach to matters, such as what occurred on the weekend and until such time whereas a league realises legal liability and changes current penalties, clubs are limited with action they can take.
I would suggest any incident behind the play, resulting in external medical treatment of any sort, should automatically come with a 12-month suspension from all grades of footy. Furthermore the player should also receive a 10 game suspended sentence. The 12-month ban would not be included in ‘games suspended’ and provides players chance at redemption. However any subsequent suspension comes with the added 10 match ban, possibly meaning said player is banned for life.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Zelezny Chucks » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:39 pm

Did anyone on this forum actually see the incident?

If not it seems a lot of people are making the assumption that he is guilty. I'm not saying he's not, as I wasn't there, but surely we should wait till it is investigated before making outlandish statements as being stood down for finals etc. Imagine how you would feel if you were stood down on, what is currently, hearsay and then found to have not had a case to answer.

Agreed the SFL should pull their heads out their arses long enough to sort out the issue, before the weekend, but let's face it the current administration have a habit of ignoring the negative aspects of the league as long as they can.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Moe » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:40 pm

Front & Centre wrote:Cant imagine any player would be "stood down" prior to any SFL hearing - I am sure if the report against MVP hadnt been withdrawn they wouldnt have stood down their player who I believe is their captain/coach.

how about letting the tribunal case take it's course and we all move onto the footy

Totally different situation.
Byron Murphy was yellow carded for an incident in a marking contest, not a king hit 50m behind play.
Happy Valley's report was ludicrous, they know it and their coach was against it (supposedly).
If your "fantastic bloke" of a captain had not left the Vikings with a bad case of double standards after his cowardly act, they would probably have proceeded ahead with calling for Murph's head.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby vics01 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:47 pm

What did the goal umpire see??
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Mister Footy » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:43 pm

Zelezny Chucks wrote:Did anyone on this forum actually see the incident?

If not it seems a lot of people are making the assumption that he is guilty. I'm not saying he's not, as I wasn't there, but surely we should wait till it is investigated before making outlandish statements as being stood down for finals etc. Imagine how you would feel if you were stood down on, what is currently, hearsay and then found to have not had a case to answer.

Agreed the SFL should pull their heads out their arses long enough to sort out the issue, before the weekend, but let's face it the current administration have a habit of ignoring the negative aspects of the league as long as they can.


Agree - no one seems to have seen the incident and everyone assumes it was an unprovoked act behind play
Dont get me wrong not saying that HV dont feel for the kid but there are 2 sides to every story.

Innocent until proven guilty and lets see what happens at the tribunal. Supposedly Edwardstown have it on tape and if that is the case was the person videoing the game aiming the camera at where the play was or the 50m, 100m or 20 km behind play that the incident supposedly took place? If it is on tape then all shall be revealed next Tuesday night. Until then there is a guy who has a pretty good record of being a good bloke on the field and off that is being constantly slandered on this forum. We have all said our piece surely its time to move on?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Barracker 1 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:56 pm

Mr Footy Wrote
Agree - no one seems to have seen the incident and everyone assumes it was an unprovoked act behind play
Dont get me wrong not saying that HV dont feel for the kid but there are 2 sides to every story.

Innocent until proven guilty and lets see what happens at the tribunal. Supposedly Edwardstown have it on tape and if that is the case was the person videoing the game aiming the camera at where the play was or the 50m, 100m or 20 km behind play that the incident supposedly took place? If it is on tape then all shall be revealed next Tuesday night. Until then there is a guy who has a pretty good record of being a good bloke on the field and off that is being constantly slandered on this forum. We have all said our piece surely its time to move on?

Your an idiot so pull your head in. You privately posted me the other day stating you weren't at the game after you stated on this forum that "he'd been at Macca all day" and you'd received incorrect information. Now your assuming EFC have video footage of the supposed incident 50m 100m or 20km behind the play by a good bloke. Your tone is disgraceful and biased. Mr Footy Not Likely
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby 1919 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:13 pm

Mister Footy wrote:
Zelezny Chucks wrote:Did anyone on this forum actually see the incident?

If not it seems a lot of people are making the assumption that he is guilty. I'm not saying he's not, as I wasn't there, but surely we should wait till it is investigated before making outlandish statements as being stood down for finals etc. Imagine how you would feel if you were stood down on, what is currently, hearsay and then found to have not had a case to answer.

Agreed the SFL should pull their heads out their arses long enough to sort out the issue, before the weekend, but let's face it the current administration have a habit of ignoring the negative aspects of the league as long as they can.


Agree - no one seems to have seen the incident and everyone assumes it was an unprovoked act behind play
Dont get me wrong not saying that HV dont feel for the kid but there are 2 sides to every story.

Innocent until proven guilty and lets see what happens at the tribunal. Supposedly Edwardstown have it on tape and if that is the case was the person videoing the game aiming the camera at where the play was or the 50m, 100m or 20 km behind play that the incident supposedly took place? If it is on tape then all shall be revealed next Tuesday night. Until then there is a guy who has a pretty good record of being a good bloke on the field and off that is being constantly slandered on this forum. We have all said our piece surely its time to move on?



You continue to astound me with your ridiculous comments on this matter. It all started on this site by someone relaying WHAT THEY SAW, yet you comment no one seems to have seen what happened.

There has been no mention of any video......where did that come from....

You had the hide to call me an idiot......mate you're really showing how smart you are!

Add Barracker 1 revelations about you and I start to wonder about your motives. I can just imagine the trouble you could cause in a footy club......
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Mister Footy » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:38 pm

Barracker I dIdnt private message you so don't know what you're on about and Edwardstown have stated in their report to the SFL that they have video footage of the incident - perhaps check with them before you have a go at me
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby 1919 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:49 pm

Mister Footy wrote:Barracker I dIdnt private message you so don't know what you're on about and Edwardstown have stated in their report to the SFL that they have video footage of the incident - perhaps check with them before you have a go at me


you're making this up as you go right? can you dig yourself into a deeper hole?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby 1919 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:49 pm

:lol:
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