Southern Football League

[Look Good In Leather]

When is the tribunal hearing for the Valleys player from that incident?

Is it true he already has 8 weeks to his name from prior offences and if he cops 8 weeks (which it sounds should be a minimum) that this would take him to life ban territory?

Dont know where you are getting your info from HR - Scott actually hasnt had a tribunal appearance in 10 years

What about before that, the rule covers your entire career

[afc9798]

When is the tribunal hearing for the Valleys player from that incident?

Is it true he already has 8 weeks to his name from prior offences and if he cops 8 weeks (which it sounds should be a minimum) that this would take him to life ban territory?

Dont know where you are getting your info from HR - Scott actually hasnt had a tribunal appearance in 10 years

What about before that, the rule covers your entire career

Not sure about that one, but there was a young Christies lad on the weekend who will be getting off to a flying start at the tribunal tonight.

[Panther32]

When is the tribunal hearing for the Valleys player from that incident?

Is it true he already has 8 weeks to his name from prior offences and if he cops 8 weeks (which it sounds should be a minimum) that this would take him to life ban territory?

Dont know where you are getting your info from HR - Scott actually hasnt had a tribunal appearance in 10 years

What about before that, the rule covers your entire career

Not sure about that one, but there was a young Christies lad on the weekend who will be getting off to a flying start at the tribunal tonight.

Good deflection!

[afc9798]

quote="happilyretired"]When is the tribunal hearing for the Valleys player from that incident?

Is it true he already has 8 weeks to his name from prior offences and if he cops 8 weeks (which it sounds should be a minimum) that this would take him to life ban territory?[/quote]



Good deflection! [/quote][/quote][/quote]

Wasn't a deflection at all. I think it's pretty well documented what is happening with Scott McKenzie and i don't know if tribunal appearances take into account all suspensions from juniors on.
He will have his day at the investigation and Edwardstown have the opportunity to present their evidence, nothing i say can change that.
Simply made the point that there was a lad from Christies who will definitely be starting his record in style. Wasn't behind the play but wasn't in it either and ran a good 30 metres to get involved in the action. Young lad from Flagstaff apparently has a fractured eye socket. But that's obviously not an issue....

[Dutchy]

I heard he was talked out of retirement to play last season and after a flag decided to do it all again in 2013. So I think he may be giving himself a "life time" away from the game anyway.

From what Im hearing this saga will drag on for quite a while yet.

Hearing is tonight I think

No matter what the result is tonight, this will drag on for a while yet....

[Look Good In Leather]

Good deflection!

Wasn't a deflection at all. I think it's pretty well documented what is happening with Scott McKenzie and i don't know if tribunal appearances take into account all suspensions from juniors on.
He will have his day at the investigation and Edwardstown have the opportunity to present their evidence, nothing i say can change that.
Simply made the point that there was a lad from Christies who will definitely be starting his record in style. Wasn't behind the play but wasn't in it either and ran a good 30 metres to get involved in the action. Young lad from Flagstaff apparently has a fractured eye socket. But that's obviously not an issue....

Nice story pal, not sure why you need to write rubbish like that when I was only clarifying what the deregistration policy is. Far from what happened, but why let facts get in the way eh?

[afc9798]

Good deflection!

Wasn't a deflection at all. I think it's pretty well documented what is happening with Scott McKenzie and i don't know if tribunal appearances take into account all suspensions from juniors on.
He will have his day at the investigation and Edwardstown have the opportunity to present their evidence, nothing i say can change that.
Simply made the point that there was a lad from Christies who will definitely be starting his record in style. Wasn't behind the play but wasn't in it either and ran a good 30 metres to get involved in the action. Young lad from Flagstaff apparently has a fractured eye socket. But that's obviously not an issue....

Nice story pal, not sure why you need to write rubbish like that when I was only clarifying what the deregistration policy is. Far from what happened, but why let facts get in the way eh?

Really. I was there watching it. Must have been a mirage when he was red carded and reported.

[Look Good In Leather]

Good deflection!

Wasn't a deflection at all. I think it's pretty well documented what is happening with Scott McKenzie and i don't know if tribunal appearances take into account all suspensions from juniors on.
He will have his day at the investigation and Edwardstown have the opportunity to present their evidence, nothing i say can change that.
Simply made the point that there was a lad from Christies who will definitely be starting his record in style. Wasn't behind the play but wasn't in it either and ran a good 30 metres to get involved in the action. Young lad from Flagstaff apparently has a fractured eye socket. But that's obviously not an issue....

Nice story pal, not sure why you need to write rubbish like that when I was only clarifying what the deregistration policy is. Far from what happened, but why let facts get in the way eh?

Really. I was there watching it. Must have been a mirage when he was red carded and reported.

The lad was tackling a player when it started, hardly 30m from the play so stop trying to turn it into something it isn't. Like a previous poster said, good deflection.

[Down the Hill]

Nice deflection too LGIL. Regardless of the lead-up, if the lad has punched the Flaggies player causing facial damage then it doen't really matter. I would have thought after the incident the previous Saturday that all clubs would have been sending a strong message to their players about violent acts. Seems like the Christies administration have a few problem children on their hands if their recent junior tribunal track record is anything to go on, not to mention some of the nocturnal behaviour of their younger senior brigade.

Anyway, we are all awaiting some news on last nights hearing. Anyone?

[Dutchy]

Heard he was found Guilty but have not heard the penalty

[WHEELS&DEALS]

Just for you VICS

I can’t wait to hear the querulous Morphie Park posters and EV who for some reason wants to have a crack every chance he/she gets and yet his/her club is impacted by the point structure as it is.
Fact a number of clubs applied for and were granted extra points in order to build from the bottom up they were Hackham/Aldinga/OSB/Morphie Parks/Marion, and later Christies were given extra points as: (Not to sure how you build from the bottom up with extra point)

1. They applied
2. They were identified as special needs due to their junior numbers being down and not coming through to senior ranks. (you got something right. Was going to take a few years to turn under 14's into senior footballers)

It appears on the surfaced the Hawks/Sharks/OSB/ Marion and Christies have done the right thing as to why clubs were given the points to start with.. Being to re build your club, not have instant success. (if we had instant success we would have played in the Grand Final 3 years ago.)

HAWKS, have improved played competitive footy this year with a young list and the club willing build over a number of years to achieve long term stabilisation. Working very hard to recruit and maintain juniors for Saturday football. (agree. Have got a great coach and alot of people pointing the club in the right direction. They will benefit from running the club again instead of being a community club. As long as they don't listen to idiots that have come from other clubs who think they know more than they do.)

SHARKS, struggled however they are trying, some promising junior players got a gig this year and junior sharks did ok. Plenty to build on. ( have got some good juniors coming through but seem to spend coin on the wrong players. The area they are in will only grow and this should help them in years to come)

LIONS, struggled with numbers, blooded juniors, club trying hard but being sandwiched between some of the larger clubs makes life very difficult. May need to look at another merger to survive the 15 years before the primary school kids are old enough to play senior footy. (in the most difficult position of all clubs. powerfull clubs all around them and will need to work hard to keep what they have. Some good people down there who want stop until they succeed. wish them all the best)

SAINTS, Improved out of site, got themselves a good, well respected coach, worked hard on building juniors with some reasonable success. (Have improved but I don't think they were one of the clubs that applied for extra points)

RAMS, struggled to field juniors, however did manage to get some Saturday sides up. (struggled big time and will be interesting to see what direction they go. They have got some good minis but need to turn them into colts players and a new coach that will probably start from scratch.)

ROOS, Rorted the system were given points to build, went out to obtain instant success rather than do the hard yards, claim to have tried to build Saturday juniors, yet promoted the juniors as all games on a Sunday before the season started. When that didn't work caused reorganisation for the whole league to accommodate them. (as i said before if we had instant success we would have played in a Grand Final 3 years ago.(One out of the 4 signs we had floating around the place had games on sunday written on it as it was an old sign the other three that were up advertised for kids of all ages to come and play for our club in the SFL. Wasn't our fault that 4 clubs pulled out of the sunday comp 2 weeks before the first game. rorting the point system i don't think so. Using it to better our club, I think we have proved that. I think we may only have an extra 3 )

Continued to play an underage lad in the A grade side during the year in order to accommodate the point’s players. Lad got very little game time which has probably not done anything towards developing his footy. Still after finishing in the 8 for the last 3 years 8th /4th /4th still get extra points, even though the SFL can review the points each year it has chosen to let MP retain their extra points.
(didn't need to play the under age lad for points reasons. He made the team on his own merits as he is in the top 25 players at our club. Also gave another 2 lads a taste of A grade footy and will continue to blood as many as we can.)

Point’s consideration was for an even playing field; well it would appear that some have a distorted idea of what an even playing field is.
(out of all the clubs that applied for extra points which club has made the most improvement, that would be Morphy Parks (no offence to the other clubs) we had 2 minis teams and half an U14's team. We now field a team in every age group, the first time the club has so in over 10 years. Not sure how the other clubs used the extra point given to them but we went out and recruited players that we thought would hang around the club and be able to attract kids and other players. Trevor Cranston has been a great advertisement for that. We will continue to work hard and try and get juniors on Saturdays but if you look at all the clubs on the flat only one of them has juniors that play Saturday and that's Brighton. It will be very hard to attract the numbers required for townies, Marion and us to all get 14's 16's and 18's on Saturdays but guaranteed each club is trying there best. Start all the ROOmors you like Vics but our club will continue to improve and i'll be happy to comment on all of the crap that comes from your Keyboard and mouth.)

On wonders how many will stick it out in the city given the farmers have had a record yield of grain this year, more grain than storage space plenty of $$ to travel bush.

[vics01]

WHEELS AND DEALS while I pour myself a glas of the finest and read you defence of the undefencable should you consider a name change

Dodgy Deals

with the SFL.

HAWKS, have improved played competitive footy this year with a young list and the club willing build over a number of years to achieve long term stabilisation. Working very hard to recruit and maintain juniors for Saturday football. (agree. Have got a great coach and alot of people pointing the club in the right direction. They will benefit from running the club again instead of being a community club. As long as they don't listen to idiots that have come from other clubs who think they know more than they do.)

Why are you going down

ROOS, Rorted the system were given points to build, went out to obtain instant success rather than do the hard yards, claim to have tried to build Saturday juniors, yet promoted the juniors as all games on a Sunday before the season started. When that didn't work caused reorganisation for the whole league to accommodate them. (as i said before if we had instant success we would have played in a Grand Final 3 years ago.(One out of the 4 signs we had floating around the place had games on sunday written on it as it was an old sign the other three that were up advertised for kids of all ages to come and play for our club in the SFL. Wasn't our fault that 4 clubs pulled out of the sunday comp 2 weeks before the first game. rorting the point system i don't think so. Using it to better our club, I think we have proved that. I think we may only have an extra 3 )

Must have kept moving it around. RORTING is what it is. Your A grade may have improved but the quality below that has most definitely not building a A grade flag is not building a club.

LET ME TAKE YOU BACK TO SOME OTHER COMMENTS
Maybe more than 10 minutes game time would really benefit the lad. (sorry not counting games against the 4 or 5)

Past behaviour is an indicator of future behaviour and unfortunately your past is a little doubtful

Down the Hill
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I have no problem with a club having extra points but I think any club that gets them shouldn't be allowed to use a junior player for -1 points just to keep them below their point allocation in a particular game. Morphy Park did this for 1 of the games Backwell played and may have continued to do it if Backwell didn't get injured. The -1 player they used was only 16 and probably sat on the bench most of the game. I think this is stretching the boundaries of fairness for clubs that get extra points.

Broken Down Hack
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the player in question DTH, Eyre White is u/16 captain he did all the pre season with the seniors and was keen to play higher, he played 6 senior games for the club and deserved his spot in the A's after playing well in the B's, over the years the club has been forced to play young players similar to Aldinga this year, sometimes these players are not ready and we have lost them to the game....it is great credit to Eyre who started at the club as a u/9.....Many off the clubs current players who came through the juniors never got the chance to play u/18's they went straight into seniors from u/16's and copped the 40 goal hidings, no complaints then, maybe those floggings have helped the club over the last 5 yrs as they learn't the hard way. The Roos have not had u/18's since 06 when it had to withdraw the side to fill the seniors, this is why they applied for extra points to help rebuild juniors which is starting to happen, success takes time.

Rush a Point
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Broken Down Hack wrote:
the player in question DTH, Eyre White is u/16 captain he did all the pre season with the seniors and was keen to play higher, he played 6 senior games for the club and deserved his spot in the A's after playing well in the B's, over the years the club has been forced to play young players similar to Aldinga this year, sometimes these players are not ready and we have lost them to the game....it is great credit to Eyre who started at the club as a u/9.....Many off the clubs current players who came through the juniors never got the chance to play u/18's they went straight into seniors from u/16's and copped the 40 goal hidings, no complaints then, maybe those floggings have helped the club over the last 5 yrs as they learn't the hard way. The Roos have not had u/18's since 06 when it had to withdraw the side to fill the seniors, this is why they applied for extra points to help rebuild juniors which is starting to happen, success takes time.


So the lad in question plays one game in over a month for MVP on 16th June in B Grade makes his form irresistible to play A Grade, coincidentally the day Backwell plays his first game for the club and minus one point was required to fit in Backwell.

Gives us a break, he played A grade so Backwell could play. Don't spin us a yarn that playing his first B grade game 3 weeks prior meant he deserved his spot.

REFER TO SFL MINUTES

SAINTS, Improved out of site, got themselves a good, well respected coach, worked hard on building juniors with some reasonable success. (Have improved but I don't think they were one of the clubs that applied for extra points)

Point’s consideration was for an even playing field; well it would appear that some have a distorted idea of what an even playing field is.
(out of all the clubs that applied for extra points which club has made the most improvement, that would be Morphy Parks (no offence to the other clubs) we had 2 minis teams and half an U14's team. We now field a team in every age group, the first time the club has so in over 10 years. Not sure how the other clubs used the extra point given to them but we went out and recruited players that we thought would hang around the club and be able to attract kids and other players. Trevor Cranston has been a great advertisement for that. We will continue to work hard and try and get juniors on Saturdays but if you look at all the clubs on the flat only one of them has juniors that play Saturday and that's Brighton. It will be very hard to attract the numbers required for townies, Marion and us to all get 14's 16's and 18's on Saturdays but guaranteed each club is trying there best. Start all the ROOmors you like Vics but our club will continue to improve and i'll be happy to comment on all of the crap that comes from your Keyboard and mouth.)

You can comment however you have no substance just a little runny I would say. Unlike you I can support the argument. Townies were shafted you can not even compare to them.

With any luck the honest will prevail on the weekend but I suspect that is not the way of the world....

PS: you seem to think you know who I am, So I am not really hiding behind anything I am happy to put facts and thoughts out there.. Unlike others who are happy to abuse but hide.

[Esteban Vihaio]

Heard he was found Guilty but have not heard the penalty

Surely someone knows the penalty. The GSFL and SAAFL have tribunals results on their website. Bit disappoints in the SFL website

[1919]

You can comment however you have no substance just a little runny I would say. Unlike you I can support the argument. Townies were shafted you can not even compare to them.

With any luck the honest will prevail on the weekend but I suspect that is not the way of the world....

PS: you seem to think you know who I am, So I am not really hiding behind anything I am happy to put facts and thoughts out there.. Unlike others who are happy to abuse but hide.

While I don't disagree Townies were shafted I am empathetic to MVPFC ( and Marion ) situation. The local demographic of Edwardstown/Morphetville Park/Marion districts has few football playing public school kids. The public schools are over proportioned with new Australians with little interest in our great game. The great majority of football playing locals attend and love to play for their Private Schools. The extraordinary abilities and reputation on Brighton High results in many locals of the district not needing to utilise the services of the local public schools, benefiting BDOS greatly. The other Northern clubs continue to work hard on getting Saturday colts teams up but unfortunately at times it involves a lot of banging own heads against walls due to insufficient numbers of kids available. As demonstrated on this forum, the clubs continue to make the efforts and those clubs will ultimately but unfortunately not immediately will be fielding sides that other SFL member clubs expect.

While all that is happening,enrolments and participation at private schools in the southern districts continue to rise which ultimately will lead to the same issues for southern clubs of our league as currently faced by the northern clubs. With the benefit of our experience you can be sure we will supportive of the plight rather than bagging affected clubs as happens currently.

[vics01]

EV

SFL puts nothing out in public.. Cannot even see the medal night or other award winners on the site.. a bit like chairman Mao reign. No information - mushrooms

[1919]

Heard he was found Guilty but have not heard the penalty

Surely someone knows the penalty. The GSFL and SAAFL have tribunals results on their website. Bit disappoints in the SFL website

Was Investigations Committee hearing not a Tribunal hearing, unsure what difference that makes but obviously some

[vics01]

1919

No bagging. Fact is across the board whether is be north or south in the league demographics have changed. Cove and M/Vale did it in 2012.. Hackham/Reynella did it in 2013.. A number of Victorian Leagues actively promote the combining of junior sides in order for clubs to survive..


Forgetting SAAFL or Country Football
There are many clubs in a small area of Adelaide (South) if clubs do not look to merge some will fold forever. 20 years ago we did not have 7 day or all day Saturday trading. The pressure for young kids to get jobs/study or play other sports is killing our game, along with other sports appearing more attractive as the PARENT bodies are promoting more that the AFL.

I won't even start on the college system.. State Junior coaches complain, SANFL clubs complain, Community Clubs complain and yet no one in power seems to want to tackle the colleges.. Maybe SANFL should withdraw any support for school football as a start.

[Dutchy]

McKenzie got 5 games I believe

[afc9798]

McKenzie got 5 games I believe

If that's correct I think it's on the lower side of what I expected if he was found guilty, although a clean record for 10 years would help.

Any news on the Christies player hearing from Underr 18's? Would have expected minimum 2 weeks.

[afc9798]

EV

SFL puts nothing out in public.. Cannot even see the medal night or other award winners on the site.. a bit like chairman Mao reign. No information - mushrooms

It is disappointing that the information flow is slower than carrier pigeon. Surely would have been good to immediately post all medal winners and other awards as they occurred, especially as its not an open function. Lucky there's Twitter etc as that's the only info I got. Story was on adelaidenow, but only had the main Mail Medal result.