Southern Football League

[1919]

Yes !!

Must have been inconsistencies then, as from what I heard it was determined there was no king hit by any description.

Yeah, but remember, representatives of your club on this board also insisted the report that Townies lodged claimed to have video footage which was NOT claimed in the report at all. Maybe what you're hearing is coming from the same sources?

[afc9798]

Did you see the incident? Or are you simply going on what was rumoured to have happened?[/quote]

Come on afc.... is your memory fading? Go back to the posts from Saturday, you've been following it surely, it was Barracker 1 who made the first post on this issue.[/quote]

So did Barracker1 present evidence?[/quote]

Who knows, not too many are open about their identity here.[/quote]

Apparently he did as per post above. As I said, if evidence was presented of a king hit, no way the outcome would be 5 weeks. Clearly the evidence was either unconvincing or inconsistent. Was plenty of time to gather info and even to compare notes, so maybe it wasn't as represented.

[Barracker 1]

What you Heard afc. He was found guilty Therefore he committed the "offence"

[afc9798]

What you Heard afc. He was found guilty Therefore he committed the "offence"

No, he committed an offence, not the offence that was alleged on here. As I said, if the offence was as you claim, no way he'd get 5 weeks. Edwardstown had ample time to prepare as much evidence as required, clearly the tribunal determined something occurred that was outside the rules, but not a king hit as was claimed. By the way, a king hit in my language is a hit from behind to an unsuspecting victim.

[Dazza44]

What you Heard afc. He was found guilty Therefore he committed the "offence"

No, he committed an offence, not the offence that was alleged on here. As I said, if the offence was as you claim, no way he'd get 5 weeks. Edwardstown had ample time to prepare as much evidence as required, clearly the tribunal determined something occurred that was outside the rules, but not a king hit as was claimed. By the way, a king hit in my language is a hit from behind to an unsuspecting victim.

I am amazed by all this !!!

I was at the game, I DID NOT SEE THE INCIDENT as I was actially watching the play. The incident happened probably 80 meters away from the play. When I saw it, there was one player lying on the ground and one player standing. No other player was within 50 metres. The umpires actually awarded a free to Edwardstown, so they must have known something happened. I was next to the Edwardstwn box, and saw the injuries sustained to the Edwardstown player.

I can't imagine any scenario other than that the HV player hit the Edwardstown player .... And I don't agree that a "King Hit" is a hit from BEHIND !!! A king hit is a hit off the play to an unsuspecting player - doesn't matter from which direction it comes. As someone who was at the ground, I can't even imagine how anyone could defend this ?????

It was a shocker, not in the spirit of football, and has been dealt with VERY POORLY by the League Investigation Committee. IMHO, this has presented our league in a very bad light and the League has only amplified this by the leniency of the penalty. (And that's not even talking about the problems of the inconsistency with previous penalties ..)

I really worry about where we are going as a League ... not a good result at all.

[Zelezny Chucks]

I think the issue isn’t whether or not he has committed an offence, or the severity of it, but how someone who was attempting to make contact within the laws of the game (a bump is still technically allowed isn’t it?) can cop 6 weeks yet someone who has intentionally made contact outside the laws of the game and completely against the spirit of the game can only cop 5?

Regardless of injury caused, in this case they were roughly the same, surely the intent to cause injury is what is worse here? I have never known someone to hit another person without the intention of cause them harm.

Having said that it is the SFL so not surprised their is no consistency.

[Dazza44]

I did not see the strike, as it appears no one else seemed to. Is it possible that it simply wasn't a king hit at all? Edwardstown had their chance to present all the witnesses and evidence, yet he got 5 games, so it seems to me either the case was very weak or that the incident was very different to what was represented here. He has had his day at the tribunal and copped the outcome, the injured party will play again before McKenzie does, so seems like a reasonable outcome. If it was truly a cowardly king hit, then there is no way he would have got 5. Unless someone can present a different side, it appears there was nowhere near the incident some purported to see and were horrified by. A d if they did truly see it, where were they when he hearing was held?

AFC: Do you REALLY believe what you write here ?????????

Doesn't matter if it was what you may call a "King Hit". Fact is, the Edwardstown player ended up lying on the ground with a broken jaw and the only other player within 50 metres was the HV Captain ... I'm utterly staggered that you are still questioning how the "incident" happened. Do you think that he threw himself on the ground so hard he broke his jaw ... or maybe he dived at the other players fist (80 metres from the play) just to make a statement ???????????

I think that the incident is a disgrace, the meagre penalty is a disgrace, and that it is disgraceful (and a discredit to the Happy Valley Football Club) that people like you still try to defend and lessen the gravity of the offence.

The SFL, the HVFC, and football in general are all losers with this scandalously lenient penalty.

[Barracker 1]

Thanks Dazza And ZC at least others agree that the penalty doesn't fit the indiscretion. OK so all that's left now is one simple question. Has anyone, anyone at all from HVFC or McKenzie had the common decency to ring the EFC or the lad with the broken jaw to enquire about his health or at least apologise and man up. I guess NOT.

[WHEELS&DEALS]

Do we know for a fact that 5 games is all he got? if so that is the biggest joke of all time. Sound like you will able to get away with anything next year if you use this as a test case.

[shoe boy]

Do we know for a fact that 5 games is all he got? if so that is the biggest joke of all time. Sound like you will able to get away with anything next year if you use this as a test case.

Precedent set in the week of the GF, so go hard lads and make sure your off the ball and all will be ok!!!

[barry footynut]

Do we know for a fact that 5 games is all he got? if so that is the biggest joke of all time. Sound like you will able to get away with anything next year if you use this as a test case.

He will be old and retired soon and only be remembered as the thug captain from HV.

[tigerpie]

AFC you are embarrassing yourself and your club by trying to water this assault down!
If they were going toe to toe then your captain should be challenging for a boxing title.
It had to be a king hit to cop that sort of damage, either that or the townies bloke just presented his jaw to him and said hit me.
Very lenient penalty i reckon i'd shut up now.

[MatteeG]

AFC you are embarrassing yourself and your club by trying to water this assault down!
If they were going toe to toe then your captain should be challenging for a boxing title.
It had to be a king hit to cop that sort of damage, either that or the townies bloke just presented his jaw to him and said hit me.
Very lenient penalty i reckon i'd shut up now.

Time for the Valley internet ban to be re-introduced?

[Down the Hill]

There is a GF tomorrow lads. I'm not even going to discuss tribunal or investigation committee penalties becasue I'm speechless from what happened Wednesday night rather than Tuesday night.

I don't care how Morphy Park established a team for a tilt at the flag. The bottom line is that they have recruited the right type of people who seem to play for the jumper they are wearing regardless of the $$$$$. And at least they haven't pillaged other clubs in the SFL in recruiting players. They do have some lads from other SFL clubs that were recruited some years ago but these lads went to MP for greater opportunities and have developed into decent players, obviously assisted with some of the quality around them.

Reynella have gone under the radar all season and have a very experienced finals team. The Bombers played MP only once in Round 3 with half our side out, and Reynella only once in a low scoring bog at Reynella so hard to gauge who is the better of the 2 that we played.

If the Ruwoldt who has been injured is fit and plays then I'm tipping MP but if he doesn't play or is a liability then I'm tipping Reynella.

Good to see Townies in the B grade GF which will give a real different look to the 2 main games on SFL GF day. 7 clubs represented in all so hopefully plenty of support and colour. Not one MV team which would be a first for many years. Maybe they planned it because of the new Dry Zone across the road.

[adelaide bank]

Best post I have read on here in ages down the hill absolutely spot on

[Panther32]

I am bemused that not many people are tipping Reynella on here. Yes I may be slightly biased but I think some of you are letting your hatred of Reynella blur your thinking!

Reynella knocked off the Roos twice this season already, once by 34 points on their deck and then by 17 in a wet tussle at Reynella. But that game the score was 6.10 to 4.5, so if the Flies kicked straight it should have been more.
The Reynella backline has been awesome this year and the team has great flexibility around the ground with the ability to move blokes where needed.
I think the biggest challenge is going to be for Big Luke Ciampa to compete with Cranston all day.
Here's hoping the finals experience the Wineflies have will shine through tomorrow in what looks like a great day for football!
Flies by 3 goals for me.

[afc9798]

I am bemused that not many people are tipping Reynella on here. Yes I may be slightly biased but I think some of you are letting your hatred of Reynella blur your thinking!

Reynella knocked off the Roos twice this season already, once by 34 points on their deck and then by 17 in a wet tussle at Reynella. But that game the score was 6.10 to 4.5, so if the Flies kicked straight it should have been more.
The Reynella backline has been awesome this year and the team has great flexibility around the ground with the ability to move blokes where needed.
I think the biggest challenge is going to be for Big Luke Ciampa to compete with Cranston all day.
Here's hoping the finals experience the Wineflies have will shine through tomorrow in what looks like a great day for football!
Flies by 3 goals for me.

I can't disagree with what you posted, but my tip is only on gut feeling based on what I have seen of the two sides this year.
MVP's height will be a factor and I think their midfield matches up strongly with Reynella's. Would not surprise to see Reynella win either as they were fantastic on the weekend.
Basically for me it will come down to which midfield delivers best to their forward line and of course the forwards finishing the job. Should be a great contest.
Have no hatred for Reynella, in fact a very healthy respect for them and the way they go about it.

Still, if I had to place a bet, it would be still be Roos....just.

[Down the Hill]

I am bemused that not many people are tipping Reynella on here. Yes I may be slightly biased but I think some of you are letting your hatred of Reynella blur your thinking!

Reynella knocked off the Roos twice this season already, once by 34 points on their deck and then by 17 in a wet tussle at Reynella. But that game the score was 6.10 to 4.5, so if the Flies kicked straight it should have been more.
The Reynella backline has been awesome this year and the team has great flexibility around the ground with the ability to move blokes where needed.
I think the biggest challenge is going to be for Big Luke Ciampa to compete with Cranston all day.
Here's hoping the finals experience the Wineflies have will shine through tomorrow in what looks like a great day for football!
Flies by 3 goals for me.

We only hated Reynella when that balding ruckmen played for them.

[The Hound]

While we are focussing on who will win the big game tomorrow, I am just wondering which club had the most hard luck stories at the selection table. An older player missing out or a young fella playing most of the year but missing out, someone injured but didnt get up.

Any news from either camp?

Flies by 23 for me.

[AFLflyer]

While we are focussing on who will win the big game tomorrow, I am just wondering which club had the most hard luck stories at the selection table. An older player missing out or a young fella playing most of the year but missing out, someone injured but didnt get up.

Any news from either camp?

Flies by 23 for me.

Think there was a BIG selection dillema last night for the flies!! A big name may miss out and is fit! However, it could come down to some fitness tests tomorrow.