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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:43 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:What other city leagues in Melbourne, Perth or Adelaide play Juniors on Saturday mornings? Don't get me wrong I played juniors and loved it however is this being outdated? I see a shitload of complaints on here and they far outweigh the positives...


One of the great things is that we play the same way as country leagues. Builds great support, keeps resources manageable and is a great day of footy. Rather this than running around to different grounds, thinned out support and struggling to provide resources for all grades. The only people who generally whine are those that can't field all 5 grades, but this is one of the tenets of the leagues success.

Is it perfect, no, but would rather this than some of the SAAFL challenges. There were strong signs of improvement from some of the clubs who have been down for some time, so something is working right. The biggest issues relate to catchment areas and geography, 2 divs doesn't fix that or the finances of some clubs. SFL also has some of the lowest affiliation fees going around , but clubs need strong sponsors and a strong committed volunteer army to make it work.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:05 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:Out of curiosity what harm can having a 7 team comp and 8 team comp have with a top 4 in both grades? I realise the issues with junior teams but seriously to me a 7 team comp by far outweighs putting your league in to disrepute with its results....


5 years ago mate, times have changed

A few thrashings over the year, as with any competition, a bit like the SAAFL which, according to some on this site, is the poster child for competition equalisation with its perfect promotion/relegation system.

2 divisions sounds great, problem is I only know of one club that wants to play in that second division with the rest wanting nothing to do with it.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:09 am

LaughingKookaburra wrote:What other city leagues in Melbourne, Perth or Adelaide play Juniors on Saturday mornings? Don't get me wrong I played juniors and loved it however is this being outdated? I see a shitload of complaints on here and they far outweigh the positives...


Not sure how, why cheapen our product just because others don't do it.

Something that sets us apart from the other metro junior comps and we are a lot richer for it.
Also means we don't play with parklands crowds of 3 spectators and a dog, juniors are actually part of a club, rather than just wearing a guernsey.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:10 am

5 years ago? Maybe the 300 point losses stop but constant 100 point losses don't show the SFL as the states 2nd best senior competition as it was during its peak?
Can you bring a man to his feet when defeat is on repeat?
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby LaughingKookaburra » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:27 am

And to follow I'm not intending to be a smartass to create argument. I am good friends with people who made the SFL as strong as it was during its peak. I just can't contemplate any amateur comp being healthy with 15 clubs when even the AFL was bailing out clubs when the comp was 16 teams in the 1 comp....
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby cracka » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:56 am

Look Good In Leather wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Out of curiosity what harm can having a 7 team comp and 8 team comp have with a top 4 in both grades? I realise the issues with junior teams but seriously to me a 7 team comp by far outweighs putting your league in to disrepute with its results....


5 years ago mate, times have changed

A few thrashings over the year, as with any competition, a bit like the SAAFL which, according to some on this site, is the poster child for competition equalisation with its perfect promotion/relegation system.

2 divisions sounds great, problem is I only know of one club that wants to play in that second division with the rest wanting nothing to do with it.

If SFL did go back to 2 divs then I would think Kangarilla, Meadows & Blackwood would then seriously consider joining/re-joining. Logistically it would make sense for those clubs.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:39 am

2 divs give clubs hope surely

success is at least reachable

if ya would ask aldinga 'oh whats ya ya greatest memory?' - most surely would say oh easily our last premiership in 1992!

(yes I have the year wrong) but hello that was 20 years ago! and who cares if it was a div 2 flag, the helpers and volunteers that night after the game at the club got to feel that pure football happiness of winning a flag

I doubt whether these non powerhouse clubs will ever get that saturday night celebration again over next 10 years, and would more likely fold & close their doors for good - cos they simply have no chance

f##k going into the next 10 preseasons with all the work ahead, knowing the flag certainly wont be ours this year

clubs are being deprived or isolated from tasting success, and christies beach is one of them
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby cracka » Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:49 am

Look Good In Leather wrote:
LaughingKookaburra wrote:What other city leagues in Melbourne, Perth or Adelaide play Juniors on Saturday mornings? Don't get me wrong I played juniors and loved it however is this being outdated? I see a shitload of complaints on here and they far outweigh the positives...


Not sure how, why cheapen our product just because others don't do it.

Something that sets us apart from the other metro junior comps and we are a lot richer for it.
Also means we don't play with parklands crowds of 3 spectators and a dog, juniors are actually part of a club, rather than just wearing a guernsey.

Having all grades at the same ground on the same day is something I really love about country footy. Even better with most country leagues is they have the netball there as well. There was a suggestion for HFL to play juniors on Sundays but was thankfully knocked back by all but 1 club.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:17 pm

marbles wrote:2 divs give clubs hope surely

success is at least reachable

if ya would ask aldinga 'oh whats ya ya greatest memory?' - most surely would say oh easily our last premiership in 1992!

(yes I have the year wrong) but hello that was 20 years ago! and who cares if it was a div 2 flag, the helpers and volunteers that night after the game at the club got to feel that pure football happiness of winning a flag

I doubt whether these non powerhouse clubs will ever get that saturday night celebration again over next 10 years, and would more likely fold & close their doors for good - cos they simply have no chance

f##k going into the next 10 preseasons with all the work ahead, knowing the flag certainly wont be ours this year

clubs are being deprived or isolated from tasting success, and christies beach is one of them


Yes there are issues, but Aldinga's issues wouldn't be resolved by two divisions and neither would Lonsdale's. They would still languish at the bottom of div 2 without a miracle or a radical injection of funds to buy up and retain players. Christies is a different matter as they were very competitive this year and would expect that improvement to continue and that with a slow build I actually think they can compete at the top.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Look Good In Leather » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:37 pm

LaughingKookaburra wrote:5 years ago? Maybe the 300 point losses stop but constant 100 point losses don't show the SFL as the states 2nd best senior competition as it was during its peak?


Divisions do not stop 100 point losses, many of these occurred in the Channel 9 Adelaide Metropolitan League over the past year as well.

If we get to 20 clubs, then it is a no brainer to split, but as it is, 15 is too many for one, too few for two

How many comps would have 12 competitive clubs playing against each other in the same competition - good comp!
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:54 pm

was 2 conferences ever considered?

top 4 of each conference go to finals
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Wed Oct 02, 2013 12:58 pm

take this for a crazy idea...

aldinga join the saafl's division 7

crazy yeah, but how far away from adelaide is aldinga and how far away is angle vale? :)
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Down the Hill » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:15 pm

But this is where you Ammo people miss the point. Where would the Aldinga Juniors play. Angle Vale may be the most northerly club in the SAAFL but every club between them and the inner North also play Ammo's and their juniors along with all those other north and north-eastern clubs play in the NEMJFL. If Aldinga entered the SAAFL their only option for juniors would be Metro South and their juniors would simply not want to play in that comp when far more convenient to play in the GSFL with Myponga, Willunga, McLaren or in the SFL with Porties or Noarlunga. Plus Aldinga have virtually no issue with college footy so their secondary school age juniors first choice would be to play Saturday mornings rather than Sunday lunch time or later.

The evenness of SFL comp has made some big strides in the last couple of seasons and I suggest you review some of the scores in 2013 again, because there were not too many floggings. Heavier grounds could have contributed to this some weeks but there were far less games that clubs could pencil in a win.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:49 pm

:D yeah ok ok

the juniors rule the world
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Cheese Twisties » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:52 pm

afc9798 wrote:
fathersonsfl wrote:
AFLflyer wrote:
Down the Hill wrote:Reynella - 2013
Happy Valley - 2012
Brighton Bombers - 2011
Morphett Vale - 2009
Cove - 2008
Noarlunga - 2001
Marion - 2000
Port Noarlunga - 1997
Christies Beach - 1994
Morphy Park - 1990

OSB/Lonsdale - 2001 (Div 2)
Aldinga - 1993 (Div 2)
Hackham - 1990 (Div 2)
Flagstaff Hill - 1985 (Div 2)
E'Town - 2005 (SAAFL - Div 2)

The last 6 seasons have yielded 5 different Premiership Clubs, which after a quick scan of the Div 1 Premiership list has been equalled on a couple of occasions but I couldn't find any 6 year period of different Premiers.



Nearly every club has under achieved since their last premiership.


Makes Morphett Vales 2003-2007 look pretty special. Would have been awesome to have been an A grader in that period.

They were certainly good times in 5162, and astonishing to realise its already the 10 year reunion of that first A grade flag in the run (2004) next year...!!

That list also highlights how hard it is to go back2back, with no side being able to do it since.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:42 pm

flagstaff hill 1985 ???? :shock:
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby afc9798 » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:35 pm

marbles wrote:flagstaff hill 1985 ???? :shock:




Not a Div 1 flag.
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Dutchy » Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:40 pm

Well Ben Mules cont be heading to Morphie Parks
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby Yank Man » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:15 pm

marbles wrote:take this for a crazy idea...

aldinga join the saafl's division 7

crazy yeah, but how far away from adelaide is aldinga and how far away is angle vale? :)



Love your driving interest marbles. Facts are SFL has gate revenue and reduced affiliation fees. I hear your argument and yes they would be better off in SAAFL to gain some glory, but at the end of the day it's about keeping your club viable and that's what they do. For me going to Aldinga from MP would have been easier than going to AV, but AV were tough to beat so it's a no brainer. Money dictates SFL but it doesn't in Div 7 SAAFL. :lol:
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Re: Southern Football League

Postby marbles » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:29 pm

yeah the gate revenue obviously is the biggy

but what kind of football coach are ya if the premiership is not something we strive for
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