Edwardstown still looking

[KEYDEFENDER]

Yeah, but clubs don't go from divs 4 and 6 to div 1 in a hurry.

TBS, let me guess it would take a div 4 side 3 years min ? I think my maths is ok.
your poulation argument is a fair comparison, but sometimes generations come through that are stonger than others.
I think the SFL is a strong comp at the moment(at the top) and worthy of comparisons.

[Showbags]

No question that Div 1 Football is more competitive, with the amount of money it should be, but to say Cove, MV and Brighton would not be competitive in Div 1 is just arrogance.

No, it's arrogant to suggest they'd even get there. Brighton were a div 4 club. Cove would have been in div 6 a few years ago. Just face it the SFL is a good comp but nowhere near div 1.

The amatuers DIV 1 is a second tier comp to the SANFL, don't get too far ahead of yourself champ, if they were good enough they'd play SANFL or higher again! Most interstate people recognise Centrals or Glenelg etc, Goodwood is in the street directory for most, harsh, but true.

[Mr Magoo]

Willunga beat Morphett vale early this year
Does that make the GSFL stronger than SFL and therefore stronger than A1

Not much between the top A1 , the top SFL and the top GSFL

Barossa and River Murray would also be up there

both SFL and GSFL they start early with Juniors and it is a total club day,
This has to be appealing for families especially if Dad is still playing, or if you have 3
boys across 1 in A grade, 1 in under Under 18 and 1 in under 16

[The Big Shrek]

Yeah, but clubs don't go from divs 4 and 6 to div 1 in a hurry.

TBS, let me guess it would take a div 4 side 3 years min ? I think my maths is ok.
your poulation argument is a fair comparison, but sometimes generations come through that are stonger than others.
I think the SFL is a strong comp at the moment(at the top) and worthy of comparisons.

As I said before, mathematically it can be done in 3 years but it never will. You can't get a div 1 quality side in div 4 because the players won't go there. You basically have to rebuild in every division you progress to. Teams recruit heavily when they go up and the difference between the divs is quite large.

Also playing against crap teams week in week out breeds complacency. Div 1 teams play it tough every week and are better for it.

[The Big Shrek]

Willunga beat Morphett vale early this year
Does that make the GSFL stronger than SFL and therefore stronger than A1

Not much between the top A1 , the top SFL and the top GSFL

Barossa and River Murray would also be up there

both SFL and GSFL they start early with Juniors and it is a total club day,
This has to be appealing for families especially if Dad is still playing, or if you have 3
boys across 1 in A grade, 1 in under Under 18 and 1 in under 16

Magoo you are way off. MV aren't good enough for div 1.

River Murray would be div 4 and Barossa Districts and Tanunda from the BLGFA would be middle of the road div 2.

Middle of the road div 2 means a long way off div 1. Div 2 premiers is still behind div1. Improvement is always needed to be competitive.

[Esteban Vihaio]

Yeah, but clubs don't go from divs 4 and 6 to div 1 in a hurry.

TBS, let me guess it would take a div 4 side 3 years min ? I think my maths is ok.
your poulation argument is a fair comparison, but sometimes generations come through that are stonger than others.
I think the SFL is a strong comp at the moment(at the top) and worthy of comparisons.

As I said before, mathematically it can be done in 3 years but it never will. You can't get a div 1 quality side in div 4 because the players won't go there. You basically have to rebuild in every division you progress to. Teams recruit heavily when they go up and the difference between the divs is quite large.

Also playing against crap teams week in week out breeds complacency. Div 1 teams play it tough every week and are better for it.

I'm sure I've heard of a few teams achieving or near achieving this? Several of the old SAFA sides and perhaps woodville south and Glandore

[The Big Shrek]

Yeah, but clubs don't go from divs 4 and 6 to div 1 in a hurry.

TBS, let me guess it would take a div 4 side 3 years min ? I think my maths is ok.
your poulation argument is a fair comparison, but sometimes generations come through that are stonger than others.
I think the SFL is a strong comp at the moment(at the top) and worthy of comparisons.

As I said before, mathematically it can be done in 3 years but it never will. You can't get a div 1 quality side in div 4 because the players won't go there. You basically have to rebuild in every division you progress to. Teams recruit heavily when they go up and the difference between the divs is quite large.

Also playing against crap teams week in week out breeds complacency. Div 1 teams play it tough every week and are better for it.

I'm sure I've heard of a few teams achieving or near achieving this? Several of the old SAFA sides and perhaps woodville south and Glandore

Woody South got ridiculously lucky in div 2 and went straight back down. Were lucky not to go down to div 4 this year. Where are Glandore now?

[GO THE PUNT]

Thanks for reminding everyone about where brighton came from dth saved me having to do it.I also believe one of the main reasons left the saafl was due to pressure from the sfl with them having the juniors playing with no seniors if i'm correct. Anyhow best thing brighton done i believe i am told by close friends that it turned it into a real family football club.
The argument over the div 1 and sfl match up is yes I think the div 1 comp would be stronger but if the top 4 in sfl was at full strength they could match it with them. The difference between the clubs is that the level of players standards fulls away quicker in the sfl. So the div 1 sides may have 10-12 real quality players where as the sfl teams may have 5-6 players at the standard required. Whats 5-6 players you say well its the difference between the lower sides in the sfl 8 compared to the top 4.

[Showbags]

Willunga beat Morphett vale early this year
Does that make the GSFL stronger than SFL and therefore stronger than A1

Not much between the top A1 , the top SFL and the top GSFL

Barossa and River Murray would also be up there

both SFL and GSFL they start early with Juniors and it is a total club day,
This has to be appealing for families especially if Dad is still playing, or if you have 3
boys across 1 in A grade, 1 in under Under 18 and 1 in under 16

GSFL - Strong comp, NO
Willunga - Strong team, YES

5 in a row to Willunga, situated at the northern end of GSFL and so is the population greater for them to access, only 15 or 20 min drive to Morphettvale/Reynella and all the other players not wanting to play SFL, also has a high school, BIG FISH little pond syndrome.

[Esteban Vihaio]

Willunga beat Morphett vale early this year
Does that make the GSFL stronger than SFL and therefore stronger than A1

Not much between the top A1 , the top SFL and the top GSFL

Barossa and River Murray would also be up there

both SFL and GSFL they start early with Juniors and it is a total club day,
This has to be appealing for families especially if Dad is still playing, or if you have 3
boys across 1 in A grade, 1 in under Under 18 and 1 in under 16

GSFL - Strong comp, NO
Willunga - Strong team, YES

5 in a row to Willunga, situated at the northern end of GSFL and so is the population greater for them to access, only 15 or 20 min drive to Morphettvale/Reynella and all the other players not wanting to play SFL, also has a high school, BIG FISH little pond syndrome.

With the high school next door and a historically very weak neighbor in Aldinga have contributed to a exceptionally strong junior program, where every week, half to a full dozen miss out. I have been told by one of their ex coaches, the younger aged players of each grade, generally play 3 - 4 games per season.

In addition, nearly all of their players who go on to bigger an better things, come back and play for their club.

[Felch]

I think TBS makes some good points. I know very little about the SFL, but i do know plenty about the SAAFL. Im not doubting for one minute that there are teams in the SFL that could mix it in D1, but mixing it and actually being a D1 standard club are 2 different things. If a D1 club has a bad year, they get relegated. If they have 2 bad years in a row, they can suddenly find themselves in D3. This doesnt happen in the SFL - which is by no means having a crack at that league. For example, Cove can have a ordinary year in 2009, and still finish in a reasonable position at the years end. They can still probably have a terrible year, and finish above most other sides in the SFL. The SAAFL system means clubs are more accountable for their on-field performances. Drop the ball, and you get relegated. Win a flag, or make a GF, and you get promoted. You cant stand around patting yourself on the back the following year either, as you need to improve to avoid going straight back down a grade. Alot of people knock the SAAFL, and i agree, the administration side of things baffles and frustrates me at times. But the actual divisional system of the SAAFL is excellent, and D1 is the best league in the state.

For what its worth, i think Edwardstown are making a wrong move.

[Mr Magoo]

For what its worth, i think Edwardstown are making a wrong move.

Worth very little

[Felch]

For what its worth, i think Edwardstown are making a wrong move.

Worth very little

Pffft...a bit like your comments a few posts back...

[The Big Shrek]

For what its worth, i think Edwardstown are making a wrong move.

Worth very little

Pffft...a bit like your comments a few posts back...

Mr Magoo is finished by two. Get's very drunk and that's why he can't tell the difference between div 1, SFL, GSFL and RMFL.

[Jelom19]

The Big Shrek finally makes some sense

[Mr Magoo]

For what its worth, i think Edwardstown are making a wrong move.

Worth very little

Pffft...a bit like your comments a few posts back...

Mr Magoo is finished by two. Get's very drunk and that's why he can't tell the difference between div 1, SFL, GSFL and RMFL.

Thanks for that Shrek..I did not realise you knew me
I'm still good being 11.30

[Esteban Vihaio]

Yeah, but clubs don't go from divs 4 and 6 to div 1 in a hurry.

I'm sure I've heard of a few teams achieving or near achieving this? Several of the old SAFA sides and perhaps woodville south and Glandore

Woody South got ridiculously lucky in div 2 and went straight back down. Were lucky not to go down to div 4 this year. Where are Glandore now?

Tea Tree Gully - It became an inaugural member of the S.A.F.A. in 1978, and then in 1988 it joined the SAAFL at level A6 and it took only eight seasons to reach A1.

[Zelezny Chucks]

Stop making valid arguments EV the Ogre doesn't like that.

[BringBackDBush]

Down the Hill said Brighton came from A1’s then won only 7 in SFL the following year so that argument is lost Armature lovers the SFL top 4 would be spread in the top 6 of A1’s. To me that means they are a comparable comp. Also plenty of SFL players are recruited to the SANFL each year so they can’t be bums.

Fletch quite a few of the sides in the SFL stay in the top 8 for quite a few years and if you are talking staying away from the bottom 2 there is even more.
I don’t agree this messy promotion relegation for all clubs in all age groups is that beneficial SANFL don’t have that structure. How can you guys go off to play you foot on a Saturday at one club and have your juniors scattered around the state playing at different clubs.
Armatures you don’t know what you’re missing. SFL GSFL etc have a true local footy comp, you go to the game in the morning and watch all you teams play through the day then back to the club for best player presentations for all grades.

Edwardstown half coming to SFL isn’t any benefit to our SFL they need to adopt the game day structure I mentioned above like the other SFL teams do.
The reason they come without their juniors is because they have no game day link to their juniors.
Thay may aswell be playing on the moon for all they know. And this could go on forever while they play only seniors in the SFL
When you sort out your juniors bring the full package to the SFL or BUGGER OFF!

[scottroo]

Down the Hill said Brighton came from A1’s then won only 7 in SFL the following year so that argument is lost Armature lovers the SFL top 4 would be spread in the top 6 of A1’s. To me that means they are a comparable comp. Also plenty of SFL players are recruited to the SANFL each year so they can’t be bums.

Fletch quite a few of the sides in the SFL stay in the top 8 for quite a few years and if you are talking staying away from the bottom 2 there is even more.
I don’t agree this messy promotion relegation for all clubs in all age groups is that beneficial SANFL don’t have that structure. How can you guys go off to play you foot on a Saturday at one club and have your juniors scattered around the state playing at different clubs.
Armatures you don’t know what you’re missing. SFL GSFL etc have a true local footy comp, you go to the game in the morning and watch all you teams play through the day then back to the club for best player presentations for all grades.

Edwardstown half coming to SFL isn’t any benefit to our SFL they need to adopt the game day structure I mentioned above like the other SFL teams do.
The reason they come without their juniors is because they have no game day link to their juniors.
Thay may aswell be playing on the moon for all they know. And this could go on forever while they play only seniors in the SFL
When you sort out your juniors bring the full package to the SFL or BUGGER OFF!

incorrect, brighton left SAAFL in A1, but the saafl introduced P1 P2 AND maybe even P3 IN THOSE TIMES, EFFICTIVLEY MAKING BRIGHTON A DIV 3 OR DIV 4 TEAM. Cove and Morphies would be the only 2 teams too push for finals in A1 amatuer