Southern Football League

[The Bedge]

Out at Ingle Farm we have our 16's train with the seniors, we also have a large number of seniors help out at trainings for most of the junior sides from 6's through to 14's and then assist with match day duties on Sundays.

Clubs need to connect seniors with juniors otherwise they wont survive in the long run.

[LaughingKookaburra]

FWIW in the top 3 SAAFL divisions I just checked and I haven't checked below them yet. I counted out of 30 clubs there were 21 clubs with at least 3 junior teams, 7 old scholars clubs which have the best resourced junior training systems in the state outside of the SANFL. 1 other club is Adelaide University who has 6 senior teams. 29 of the 30 clubs- we are already more than 1/3 of clubs with juniors and I'm not even half way through the divisions. This is a competition that has a far healthier junior and senior competition as a whole than the SFL!

Finally there are clubs in the higher SAAFL that have the biggest Junior footy clubs in the state. It's not 1999 anymore, clubs have strong junior systems and connections with them outside of the SFL.

[The Bedge]

Finally there are clubs in the higher SAAFL that have the biggest Junior footy clubs in the state..

PNU, TTG, Golden Grove instantly spring to mind - and not only have large numbers but generally good quality!

[LaughingKookaburra]

TTG from memory have the biggest junior System in the state. But hey I'm sure it got like that only because the Seniors have "Zero" connection with the Juniors. Absolutely laughable.

[shoe boy]

SB just because 1 club says that it doesn't mean that's the case with all. If a SAAFL club wants to really connect it's Senior and Junior connection it's completely up to the individual club. When we did have 16's and 18's many of the 16's trained with the senior squad to better them selves and 18's trained with the Seniors religiously every Tuesday and Thursday. We ended up winning 4 senior flags as a result in coming years. League culture has zero impact and just because you play on different days it doesn't mean you can't connect both concepts of your club.

LK , Great to hear of your connect with juniors .
My info and not from just one as per my example is not many clubs within the SAAFL have any connection with the seniors .

The SFL plays juniors and seniors on the same day at the same venue and thus builds relationships with players and parents .

[shoe boy]

LK ,
Great to hear some posters and the connect.

When was the last time you went along and watched your juniors play.

[LaughingKookaburra]

No disrespect SB as I know your background in footy circles is well known and respected but your initial post was factually incorrect throughout.

-For starters there is far more clubs with juniors than 1/3. I'd go as far as saying 75-80% of 60 clubs would have either old scholar connections and at least 3 junior teams.
-Every club in the immediate area I deal with close to Kenilworth has a strong Senior/Junior connection. They get far stronger when the players hit U16's competition.

Quick question. Do you as a Senior club have any less to do with or make lesser of an effort towards your Sunday Juniors (If you have any) when compared to your Saturday Juniors?

[LaughingKookaburra]

LK ,
Great to hear some posters and the connect.

When was the last time you went along and watched your juniors play.

Seen the juniors play all the time. I also play C grade, then 2 hours later am a grade runner. I also help with our Junior girls canteens of Friday nights and have been a Runner when asked for the Junior Girls.

[The Bedge]

err dude how can it be wrong. the current vacancy is in div 4

2 teams will come up, and 1 team is going down. that makes 9 teams in div 5 currently next year. The vacancy is therefore in div 5 "at this point"

@marbles *cough, cough* the bottom two teams get relegated, nowhere does it say only 9th and 10th.. so in Division 4’s case, 8th and 9th get relegated unless otherwise determined.

Clause 37
37.1
Subject to Clauses 37.4 and 37.5 herein the Member Clubs occupying the lowest two positions on the premiership table in the Divisions with a reserve Division (except the lowest Division of The League and the lowest Division of The League with a reserve Division) at the end of the minor round of matches in each Division, not being a reserve Division, shall be relegated to the Division below their current Division in the following season.

Bottom line.. the vacancy still exists in D4

[marbles]

err dude how can it be wrong. the current vacancy is in div 4

2 teams will come up, and 1 team is going down. that makes 9 teams in div 5 currently next year. The vacancy is therefore in div 5 "at this point"

@marbles *cough, cough* the bottom two teams get relegated, nowhere does it say only 9th and 10th.. so in Division 4’s case, 8th and 9th get relegated unless otherwise determined.

Clause 37
37.1
Subject to Clauses 37.4 and 37.5 herein the Member Clubs occupying the lowest two positions on the premiership table in the Divisions with a reserve Division (except the lowest Division of The League and the lowest Division of The League with a reserve Division) at the end of the minor round of matches in each Division, not being a reserve Division, shall be relegated to the Division below their current Division in the following season.

Bottom line.. the vacancy still exists in D4

omg how full retard do u wanna go

10th place is para hills, 9th is kenilworth bye bye to both of those teams in 2017 from div 4, para hills have already left obviously and WONT be taking their place in div 5 next year, so their div 5 vacancy needs to be filled

[The Bedge]

omg how full retard do u wanna go

10th place is para hills, 9th is kenilworth bye bye to both of those teams in 2017 from div 4, para hills have already left obviously and WONT be taking their place in div 5 next year, so their div 5 vacancy needs to be filled

LOL no.. 10th place is vacant - it's the bye.. sure it was occupied by Para Hills briefly pre-season, but not anymore.

8th and 9th to be relegated.. lock it in Eddie.

[marbles]

omg how full retard do u wanna go

10th place is para hills, 9th is kenilworth bye bye to both of those teams in 2017 from div 4, para hills have already left obviously and WONT be taking their place in div 5 next year, so their div 5 vacancy needs to be filled

LOL no.. 10th place is vacant - it's the bye.. sure it was occupied by Para Hills briefly pre-season, but not anymore.

8th and 9th to be relegated.. lock it in Eddie.

its fine dig your hole deeper son.

[The Bedge]

its fine dig your hole deeper son.

I'm right, you're wrong.. wanna place a wager on it old man?

[Dutchy]

TTG from memory have the biggest junior System in the state. But hey I'm sure it got like that only because the Seniors have "Zero" connection with the Juniors. Absolutely laughable.

So if there is such a great connection with SAAFL and their juniors why do they play on seperate days? Why not have some games on Saturdays before the seniors? How many clubs have joint junior and senior presso's?

[The Bedge]

So if there is such a great connection with SAAFL and their juniors why do they play on seperate days? Why not have some games on Saturdays before the seniors? How many clubs have joint junior and senior presso's?

A lot of clubs have senior triple headers - so C grade starts at 10:15am.. just wouldn't be enough time in the day to run juniors as well, especially if you had a full compliment of grades.

[heater31]

TTG from memory have the biggest junior System in the state. But hey I'm sure it got like that only because the Seniors have "Zero" connection with the Juniors. Absolutely laughable.

So if there is such a great connection with SAAFL and their juniors why do they play on seperate days? Why not have some games on Saturdays before the seniors? How many clubs have joint junior and senior presso's?

School Football ruins the juniors before seniors match day experience....

[LaughingKookaburra]

Thats a pretty easy question to answer, it's simply impossible Dutchy.

-Considering a large majority of clubs host triple headers now of senior footy u14's would have to kick off at 5am.
-SFL complain about all juniors not playing with seniors now. How would it go when you play Old Boys teams who have no juniors for you to play every 3-4 weeks.
-SAAFL, SANFL Juniors and College Football are 3 completely different governed leagues. How do you expect them to all come together and make a draw that all is aligned?
-How many Schools south of Sacred Heart play school footy, therefore use players who could also play for your local club on Saturdays?

That's only off the top of my head.

[Dutchy]

Thats a pretty easy question to answer, it's simply impossible Dutchy.

-Considering a large majority of clubs host triple headers now of senior footy u14's would have to kick off at 5am. C grade starts at 10.15am, good 2 hours before hand to play games
-SFL complain about all juniors not playing with seniors now. How would it go when you play Old Boys teams who have no juniors for you to play every 3-4 weeks. not sure what point you are making here
-SAAFL, SANFL Juniors and College Football are 3 completely different governed leagues. How do you expect them to all come together and make a draw that all is aligned? school holidays would be the perfect time, sounds like clubs see it as too difficult
-How many Schools south of Sacred Heart play school footy, therefore use players who could also play for your local club on Saturdays? Plenty, many kids play club at 8.15am then butter up for school footy at 10.30am

That's only off the top of my head.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Turn it up. There is stuff all schools that play school footy South of Sacred Heart. Most private Schools won't even let those kids play at SANFL clubs.

You need to be consistent with Junior sporting times otherwise people will not take their kids to games. Just because it's school holidays you make 14's and 16's start 3 hours earlier than they would on a Sunday and also make them play Saturday's? I can see today's modern parents not having issues with that ?

And again good luck getting 2-3 leagues creating an aligned draw.

[Dutchy]

Turn it up. There is stuff all schools that play school footy South of Sacred Heart. Most private Schools won't even let those kids play at SANFL clubs.

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Now you are making yourself look silly. Glenelg, West, South and Sturt all have vibrant school footy comps in the South.