One Division or Two?

[Dutchy]

Surely Kangarilla would be a logical option to try to get back to SFL, there would be less traveling than the Hills comp.

[MatteeG]

Surely Kangarilla would be a logical option to try to get back to SFL, there would be less traveling than the Hills comp.

The way they are travelling currently they would be getting a hiding from most SFL clubs. They are however the Div 2 specialists...

[1983]

Only one competitive game of footy in the SFL this weekend. The gap continues to grow. Why field a side if you are a bottom club only to be belted week in week out?

[fisho mcspaz]

We all know the SFL needs two divisions. The evidence just keeps mounting up week after week. It's time to act, or clubs will start going under - it's happening already. Any suggestions as to what to do? I suggested a petition but was told it's been done already with no success. Would it be possible for each club to appoint a delegate, then all of them get together and present a case to the SFL committee? Surely they'd have to pay attention if all the clubs in the league got involved.

[lion heart]

We all know the SFL needs two divisions. The evidence just keeps mounting up week after week. It's time to act, or clubs will start going under - it's happening already. Any suggestions as to what to do? I suggested a petition but was told it's been done already with no success. Would it be possible for each club to appoint a delegate, then all of them get together and present a case to the SFL committee? Surely they'd have to pay attention if all the clubs in the league got involved.

This meeting did indeed take place and my understanding is that Aldinga were the only club that did not attend the meeting for 2 divisions and dont seem to be totally in favour of it (i could be wrong) which i found bewildering to say to least. I would suggest some questions need to be asked by the members of the committee down there to find out the clubs stance.

The wheels are in motion but there seems to be no urgency from the SFL. All clubs were asked to send in their thoughts in regards to 2 divisions to the SFL. I am a little worried that there are only 3 people representing the clubs - 1 from each of the top 5, middle 5 and bottom 5 clubs as well as the president of the SFL and 3 other 'independent' people (two of which were involved with P.N.F.C which seems hardly independent?).

[Backliner]

I believe there were divided opinions at Aldinga, possibly optimism by some committee and coaches, things may have changed but everyone is entitled to an opinion which is why we have a committee to discuss options. 1983 highlights it's not just the player turnover, also lose helpers and committee every year who get jack of one sided results.

[lion heart]

I believe there were divided opinions at Aldinga, possibly optimism by some committee and coaches, things may have changed but everyone is entitled to an opinion which is why we have a committee to discuss options. 1983 highlights it's not just the player turnover, also lose helpers and committee every year who get jack of one sided results.

I can see why there is optimism down there, Aldinga is a growing, thriving area and the juniors seem to be building each year but lets face it new players don't want to sign up to 20-50 goal pumpings and the ones that do are generally there for the wrong reasons . The simple solution is go back to 2 divisions let Aldinga and others get there house in order, win consistently, attract new players, win a senior premiership and then have a genuine crack at division 1 when they are ready for it.

No as easy as it sounds but IMPOSSIBLE under the current arrangement.

[Vulcan]

Just looking at the poll... I would really like to know who the 18 people are that think we shouldn't split the divisions?
They surely can't be serious!!

[lion heart]

Just looking at the poll... I would really like to know who the 18 people are that think we shouldn't split the divisions?
They surely can't be serious!!

Perhaps the SFL board members

[tatts]

Surely Kangarilla would be a logical option to try to get back to SFL, there would be less traveling than the Hills comp.

The way they are travelling currently they would be getting a hiding from most SFL clubs. They are however the Div 2 specialists...

Well said MatteeG

[fisho mcspaz]

Mr McSpaz usually bans me from going on here after I've had a couple of drinks, but this time I'm free to say what I want. So here goes. The SFL is a goddamn sinking ship. Until the board institutes two divisions, nothing will change. And at the rate things move along with the SFL board, it'll be another five years before that happens. My concern is with the club I love. Aldinga: apply to join the GSFL. Get out while you can. Last time they said no because they thought the Sharks were a mob of thugs, but the culture has changed a hell of a lot since then. Leave the HFL alone. No one's gunna want to drive their juniors out to Cambrai. Even belting Kangy isn't worth that with the way petrol prices are these days.

[LaughingKookaburra]

Sorry to say but I reckon Aldinga would get beaten by more in the GSFL and the distance between top and bottom is closer than the gap between 1-8 in the SFL.

[fisho mcspaz]

Sorry to say but I reckon Aldinga would get beaten by more in the GSFL and the distance between top and bottom is closer than the gap between 1-8 in the SFL.

Mr McSpaz has slapped a gag on me. I'm not allowed to respond to this thread any more. F*** knows why. Blokes are fair irritating sometimes.

[Courtney Fish]

Sorry to say but I reckon Aldinga would get beaten by more in the GSFL and the distance between top and bottom is closer than the gap between 1-8 in the SFL.

Mr McSpaz has slapped a gag on me. I'm not allowed to respond to this thread any more. F*** knows why. Blokes are fair irritating sometimes.

Maybe he is one of the Aldinga people against 2 divs.

Maybe the SFL Directors don't want to admit is was a bad move to go to 1 div in the first place.

[fisho mcspaz]

Sorry to say but I reckon Aldinga would get beaten by more in the GSFL and the distance between top and bottom is closer than the gap between 1-8 in the SFL.

Mr McSpaz has slapped a gag on me. I'm not allowed to respond to this thread any more. F*** knows why. Blokes are fair irritating sometimes.

Maybe he is one of the Aldinga people against 2 divs.

Maybe the SFL Directors don't want to admit is was a bad move to go to 1 div in the first place.

Oh god no, he's all for 2 divs - get him on the subject and he won't shut up! He and I have been discussing amongst ourselves the best way to get our verbal thoughts on paper so we can approach first our club and then the SFL to make a case for 2 divs. It's just that he doesn't like me commenting on here after I've had a couple of beers cos there have been times in the past when I've made statements that have got him into trouble later on.

[helicopterking]

Sorry to say but I reckon Aldinga would get beaten by more in the GSFL and the distance between top and bottom is closer than the gap between 1-8 in the SFL.

Mr McSpaz has slapped a gag on me. I'm not allowed to respond to this thread any more. F*** knows why. Blokes are fair irritating sometimes.

Maybe he is one of the Aldinga people against 2 divs.

Maybe the SFL Directors don't want to admit is was a bad move to go to 1 div in the first place.

Oh god no, he's all for 2 divs - get him on the subject and he won't shut up! He and I have been discussing amongst ourselves the best way to get our verbal thoughts on paper so we can approach first our club and then the SFL to make a case for 2 divs. It's just that he doesn't like me commenting on here after I've had a couple of beers cos there have been times in the past when I've made statements that have got him into trouble later on.

Maybe putting the ball Gag in place has nothing to do with SaFooty

[White Line Fever]

Mr McSpaz has slapped a gag on me. I'm not allowed to respond to this thread any more. F*** knows why. Blokes are fair irritating sometimes.

Maybe he is one of the Aldinga people against 2 divs.

Maybe the SFL Directors don't want to admit is was a bad move to go to 1 div in the first place.

Oh god no, he's all for 2 divs - get him on the subject and he won't shut up! He and I have been discussing amongst ourselves the best way to get our verbal thoughts on paper so we can approach first our club and then the SFL to make a case for 2 divs. It's just that he doesn't like me commenting on here after I've had a couple of beers cos there have been times in the past when I've made statements that have got him into trouble later on.

Maybe putting the ball Gag in place has nothing to do with SaFooty

Lol still got it old boy

[fisho mcspaz]

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[Dutchy]

We were down at Aldinga for the Subbies yesterday and they have a great set up, always enjoy going down there, very well run and organised, had massive numbers in under 8's and under 10's, didnt see the under 12's.

Sure its going to take another decade but keep doing the right things and there is a great base to work from.

[leftpeg]

This is gettin beyond boring!!! all these posts about the two division topic.. and i don't see any suggestions on how this will actually work!!
It is clear that majority of people are in favour of two divisions, so there is NOOOO need to continue to post on hear every week complaining after there are 10 goal plus margins in the results!
The biggest problem is what structure the 2 division will take.. can I suggest that you do not post on here unless discussing potential structures of 2 divisions... Lets get heaps of different structures out there so that any potential SFL sub-committee can look at the pros & cons of each.. this may actually get us somewhere rather than continually complaining: "hurry up SFL we need two divisions"

so heres a potential system for 2013

Div 1
Brighton
Morphett Vale
Noarlunga
Happy Valley
Flagstaff Hill
Reynella
Cove
Port Noarlunga

*All Div 1 clubs will have 5 saturday sides..*
All clubs play each other 3 times over 21 rounds
Top 4 play Finals
First week of Finals:
1 v 2 for GF spot
3 v 4 Elimination
Second week of Finals
Loser 1v2 Vs Winner 3v4 for GF Spot
Third week of Finals:Grand Final

so Div 1 will have 21 weeks of Minor Rnds + 3 weeks of Finals (this matches the old 20 weeks of Minor Rnd + 4 weeks of Finals)

Div 2
Hackham
Christies Beach
Edwardstown
Aldinga
OSB/Lonsdale
Morphettville Park
Marion

All clubs have A & B grade sides
clubs play each other 3 times over 18 rounds
top 4 finals system which is identical to div 1
so Div 2 will have 18 weeks of Minor Rnd + 3 weeks of Finals

Any Div 2 clubs U14s & U16s too play in Sunday Comps along with any Div 1 Clubs U14&U16 2nd sides

Potential Div 2 U18 Saturday Comp involving:
Edwardstown
Hackham
Aldinga
Christies Beach
(all above clubs have U18 side in 2012 comp)
plus the addition of potential U18 sides from Marion, OSB Lonsdale & Morphy Parks all who have U16s sides competing in 2012 so hopefully can retain players moving from U16s to U18s in 2013

I know its not perfect but its a start!