by Mister Footy » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:52 pm
by Down the Hill » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:13 pm
by shoe boy » Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:47 pm
by Mister Footy » Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:55 am
Down the Hill wrote:To be honest MF, we assessed the talent across all the Sunday lads and feared that if we tried to even up the teams then we would still have clearly the 2 strongest teams and probably play each other in the GF which would have people like you saying it was even more of a mockery. We thought our Yellow's may be in the mix to win at least half their games but didn't expect them to only lose 2 games and finish 3rd. Having said that, injury and illness have meant they have used some good Saturday players (they were the ones to putting their hand up to play) in several games to put together a team of 20 to 21, which may have helped them win a couple of extra games. Come finals they have their core group of 20/21 Sunday players so it will be interesting to see how they go. Sure the Blacks are favourites based on the minor round but there are dominant teams in many footy and other sport competitions so what can you do.
In 2009 Brighton won the Sunday Under 14 comp but did lose 2 or 3 games during the season. They beat HV in the GF by only 4 goals and that HV team was mainly 13 year old lads who then formed the basis of the HV Saturday U/14 premiership last year. HV had previously fielded their 2nd U/14 team in the Saturday comp and got flogged by the top 6 or 7 clubs. The Sunday comp enabled HV to develop these lads as a team in a comp more suited to their ability and size which no doubt put them in good stead the following season.
by Down the Hill » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:15 pm
by Mister Footy » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:51 pm
Down the Hill wrote:Get over yourself MF. Some of those kids were able to test themselves "against the best" early in the season before school footy started. The reality is that these kids can't play regular club footy on Saturday due to school footy. DO YOU GET THAT. Ask Sturt why Trengove only played a few games for them before he got drafted, likewise Viney at North before he moved back to Melbourne with his dad. The Hartletts played all their footy at Edwardstown because they played in a Sunday comp. Different schools have different rules when it comes to school footy but Sacred Heart are pretty strict. In the recent Samboy Cup U/15 GF between Glenelg and North played on an early Saturday evening, Glenelg had players in their team that attended several colleges and they wrote to each of those schools requesting the lads to be excused from school footy that morning and only one refused. Guess who ? Sacred Heart. I know HV have an outstanding Westminster lad who managed to juggle Saturday and school footy in Under 14's and also may have got out of playing school footy last season when he played Under 16's for HV but I've noticed that he hasn't played any HV footy this season because I beleive he is playing school footy.
Why are you so concerned about the Sunday comp and who wins or loses matches. Its about giving kids a game of footy for the club they want to play at, which for many is the club they've played at since the age of 7 or 8. For some clubs that gives a game for the kids who can't make the Saturday team, and for other clubs it caters for kids who have school footy on Saturday's or may play another sport on Saturday. We have had a few Sunday players over recent years who play basketball, soccer or rugby on a Saturday and play footy on Sunday.
Why don't you concern yourself with some of the junior footy issues at HV such as out of control parents (maybe you're one of those) and coaches quitting before season ends etc. and let us at Brighton go about our business. Last time I checked our A grade were top of the ladder and that's ultimately what we really strive for as a club. Maybe that is HV's current problem, people like you who are more concerned about minor issues and what othe rclubs are doing.
by Down the Hill » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:29 pm
by vics01 » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:33 pm
DTH
I hear you MF but we shouldn't have to tell kids that they are too good for the Sunday comp so go and play for Plympton etc. We don't take joy in smashing teams and thats why the coach is teaching the lads a brand of footy and teamwork and playing players in lots of different postions so that they can still develop their footy.
by Down the Hill » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:41 pm
by WHEELS&DEALS » Thu Aug 25, 2011 7:15 pm
by Mister Footy » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:12 am
Down the Hill wrote:Thanks for that Vics01. I wouldn't dare question the coaching philosophies of the Cove Mafia, because going on recent history any coach that does gets shown the door.
by Down the Hill » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:23 am
by Mister Footy » Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:21 pm
Down the Hill wrote:Nice comments Wheels. Exactly right. The main issue is more kids playing footy and an opportunity to play at their club of choice.
Mister Footy - Thanks for the debate. I think we can call a truce and admire each others passion on this topic.
by Mister Footy » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:00 am
by Bag The Points » Mon Aug 29, 2011 8:30 pm
Mister Footy wrote:As predicted the Sunday 14s finals result was a blow out in the 1st v 2nd on the ladder with the Brighton superstar A grade team of yr 8s beating MVP only U14s team by 81 points - close game for those Brighton boys
On a happier note although the Valley team lost in the first final of the day they did well to make finals so good on ya lads and your coach Rammo
Will be interesting to see what happens to the U16s game that was abandoned - Valley lad badly concussed needing an ambulance early in the game - hope the lad is OK
by Mister Footy » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:31 pm
by Bag The Points » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:29 am
Mister Footy wrote:have followed this up for you BTP - Valley have conceded and wanted to avoid playing Wednesday night and then Sunday with some of these kids possibly playing Saturday as well
The young lad who was injured on the day has also been given the all clear for neck injuries - great news
by vics01 » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:25 pm
WHEELS AND DEALS
Maybe some clubs shouldn’t look at it as a second grade comp. I think the Brighton Sunday 14’s and 16’s team would give most Saturday teams a run for their money and I would hope that we would be more than competitive. I think the Sunday competition has gotten better and will continue to improve. There are teams getting flogged in all grades whether they play on Saturday or Sunday. The main thing is that a lot more kids can play football in the SFL because they have a choice of playing on both days.
We look at the Sunday comp as a lifeline to our club, which will hopefully lead to these kids playing senior footy for us in the next few years. So what if we don’t have teams playing Saturday, we finally have a path for kids to go from under 8 through to seniors and that is something my club hasn’t had for a while. Next year we should have under 18’s in the Saturday comp, it will be hard as some of or private school kids won’t be able to play but hopefully they can still get a few games in if rostered off or playing early. I would recommend any club to come and play in the Sunday comp if they could. I know all our kids and their parents enjoy playing and watching it. Just think if we didn’t have a Sunday comp most of these kids would be playing in the metro south league and maybe my clubs junior grades as well.
So what if we dont have teams playing Saturday
by MZ » Fri Sep 02, 2011 2:19 pm
by Mister Footy » Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:16 pm
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