Adelaide United v Melbourne Victory - GRAND FINAL

[JK]

Does anyone know why Allsop got red carded?? From what i could gather it seemed as tho he spat on cornthwaite, and thats why everyone reacted why they did...... but i havent heard any more about it...

Was for a headbutt allegedly, but there's no video evidence to confirm it as far as Im aware.

Im sure i seen cornthwaite point to something on his face and show the ref and then it looked like he wiped something off???
Or is it that i hate allsop so much that i wish that he was branded as as a spitter.

Either way I like the way you think

[smithy]

Still astounded he got away with that stomp in the semi.
Even the media seems to have virtually ignored it.

Trial by video (as in AFL) and hes NOT playing

They did review it and they gave him the benefit of the doubt, something that wasn't affored to Christiano...

No action from the video could be taken because a card wasnt issued by the referee.

[csbowes]

Just on the above comment. My understanding while living in the UK, was that video evidence could only be brought into the equation if the referee DID NOT take action while on the field. This was controversial in England, because when I was there an incident received publicity because Paul Scholes committed an offence, for which he got away with on the field, but video evidence later convicted him. Ashley Cole or Joe Cole, can't remember which one, commited a similar offence a couple of weeks later, but because he got a warning or yellow card at the time, video evidence could not be used to convict him of the red he certainly deserved. The reason given was that Cole was dealt with at the time by the referee, whereas Scholes was not. This loop hole was a talking point for some time. So I would have thought this rule was the same here as it is for the EPL. Just my thoughts...

[csbowes]

Just on the Allsop red card. Based on what I saw, which in truth showed very little if anything, I think you could argue that Allsop was unfairly dismissed also, so Melbourne could feel wronged themselves.

From my mighty soap box, I'd say both teams received red cards in error or at best, red cards for offences, which in their entirety and context, did not deserve such harsh punishment.

Adelaide, no doubt, were by far on the receiving end of the greater wrong, as having to play 80 plus minutes without their out and out striker was a tragedy.

[Dogwatcher]

Agreed.

[RoosterMarty]

I also think Allsopp's red was rubbish as well. Breeze is a joke.

[Thiele]

Melbourne to Appeal the Allsop decsion. Breeze shoudn't Ref any more

[JK]

Not enough to hang a bloke on I know, but Allsopp looked guilty I reckon, tried to stay on the deck and then away from the Ref, usually what someone does when they know they're in strife ... That said, I didnt see anything warranting a send off - Still reckon the studs up on Doddy was ordinary.

[whufc]

Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant Melbourne a class above the rest. Adelaide had no real fire power, Ago you are a joke.

On the red card to Christiano, name me a sport in the world where you can lead with the elbow, make full contact and not pay the heaviest consequences the game has.
Vargas was under the ball while Christiano jumped into the challenge elbows up, whether it was on purpose or not the result was the same, if you foul some one in the box accidentley it's still a penalty

[JK]

Brilliant Brilliant Brilliant Melbourne a class above the rest. Adelaide had no real fire power, Ago you are a joke.

On the red card to Christiano, name me a sport in the world where you can lead with the elbow, make full contact and not pay the heaviest consequences the game has.
Vargas was under the ball while Christiano jumped into the challenge elbows up, whether it was on purpose or not the result was the same, if you foul some one in the box accidentley it's still a penalty

How many times have you seen a player lead with an elbow result in anything more than a free, perhaps yellow card in extreme instances ... Ive never seen a Red dished out for that before.

Don't disagree with your comments on Melbourne, facts are facts and they've clearly been the best team all season.

[whufc]

really i have seen red cards for leading with the elbow many times, especially when contact is made.

I think that was one of the very few decisions Breeze got right, and most decisions didn't go Adelaide's way IMHO, they were unlucky on that front, BUT there is no way a team can blame the ref when they have players missing the ball completely, when on goal and in the six yard box.

3 trophies in the 1 year, what a brilliant sight to watch this Melbourne team go around all year.

On Muscat, he pushes the barriers but is willing to cop the consequences when he crosses the line, no hiding, no fear. Muscat= the Gowans.

It's rich from Adelaide supporters to all critiscise Muscat and say they wouldn't have him on there team when they supported a team that had Ross Aloisi as it's captain, at least Muscat can play the game and will take any punishment handed his way.

[JK]

really i have seen red cards for leading with the elbow many times, especially when contact is made.

Fair enough then mate ... Was a legitimate question because I've honestly never seen it ... Personally I think he was still stiff because it wasn't intentional, but it's all done and dusted now, and you're right, Adelaide still had their chances.

[whufc]

really i have seen red cards for leading with the elbow many times, especially when contact is made.

Fair enough then mate ... Was a legitimate question because I've honestly never seen it ... Personally I think he was still stiff because it wasn't intentional, but it's all done and dusted now, and you're right, Adelaide still had their chances.

I will add though that rightly or wrongly the major influence on his decision was the blood.

[JK]

really i have seen red cards for leading with the elbow many times, especially when contact is made.

Fair enough then mate ... Was a legitimate question because I've honestly never seen it ... Personally I think he was still stiff because it wasn't intentional, but it's all done and dusted now, and you're right, Adelaide still had their chances.

I will add though that rightly or wrongly the major influence on his decision was the blood.

Yeah thats what I thought at the time ... I knew he was going for the Red Card too ... Oh well, will go down as folklore I guess in a few years time.

[RoosterMarty]

I can't believe you think the red card was the right decision. You are just about the first Melbourne fan to say that. Talk about biased.

[whufc]

Like i said any time you lead with elbows AND make contact to the head you open yourself to the risk of been red carded, he also jumped into Vargas so he wasn't protecting his arial space.

Find me the rule in football that allows players to make contact to the oppostions head with their elbows.

Even if it's an accident the punishment is still the same.

[RoosterMarty]

He had his eyes on the ball mate!

Why didn't Vargas get sent off for headbutting Cristiano?

And why are you the only person who seems to think it was the correct decision? Plenty of Melbourne fans on various forums think Breeze ruined the game, the usually biased commentators think it was crap too, yet you are so god damn biased you think it was the only decision he got right. What a joke.

[dinglinga]

whufc - of course u have seen many red cards playing for elizabeth grove .... lol...

[dinglinga]

whufc - of course u have seen many red cards playing for elizabeth grove .... lol...

[GWW]

You can say that again