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Postby Dutchy » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:02 pm

mypaddock wrote:oh and get rid of aloisi- the guy is long past it. has no discipline and no creativity. the only reason i can think adelaide are still playin him is in the hope that he can bring his brother john to the club in the near future.


oh yeah and the small reason of him being CAPTAIN!
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Postby mypaddock » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:05 pm

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mypaddock wrote:oh and get rid of aloisi- the guy is long past it. has no discipline and no creativity. the only reason i can think adelaide are still playin him is in the hope that he can bring his brother john to the club in the near future.


oh yeah and the small reason of him being CAPTAIN!


yeh great captain he is!! setting a good example for the kids by getting a card every wk! somebody like ang costanzo wud be a much beta choice for captain.
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Postby Dutchy » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:07 pm

who wasnt even in the starting line up in the first 3 games!!!!

Ross scroed a goal last game what more do you want?
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Postby mypaddock » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:21 pm

Dutchy wrote:who wasnt even in the starting line up in the first 3 games!!!!

Ross scroed a goal last game what more do you want?


yeah well some of the first team choices this season have been questionable. e.g leaving guys like greg owens and bobby petta on the bench when they are arguably the most creative guys in the team and actually take people on- where as when ross gets the ball it always ends getting passed back to the keeper.
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Postby JK » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:30 pm

Im inclined to agree with MP actually, I reakon Rocky is well past his best ... Not trying to bag the bloke, there comes a stage when all Sportsmen reach that stage.
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Postby another grub » Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:31 pm

half agree with you paddock.... aloisi is just about finished... seems to be a passenger these days
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Postby David Votoupal » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:40 pm

Two things:

1.The Guest Player concept is contrived, and does nothing to benefit the game long-term.

2.AUFC's main problem this season has been a poor midfield- Veart and Aloisi simply aren't up to it in there.
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Postby heater31 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:44 pm

David Votoupal wrote:
1.The Guest Player concept is contrived, and does nothing to benefit the game long-term.



the FFA should review this as it was designed to raise the profile of the league was it not???
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Postby JK » Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:58 pm

heater31 wrote:
David Votoupal wrote:
1.The Guest Player concept is contrived, and does nothing to benefit the game long-term.



the FFA should review this as it was designed to raise the profile of the league was it not???


The Romario case will certainly achieve that aim ... I don't think the move will do AUFC too many immediate favours, but it may well boost the profile of the club and competition in it's formative years.
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Postby another grub » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:37 pm

send him home now.... leaving a good young kid out!!!
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Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:16 pm

Wedgie wrote:Despite ethnic tensions between some clubs in the NSL the A-League is heading down a worse path as they've attracted a lot of the pommy element that still have the same philosophies as their UK bretheren of the past.
Give me a bit of good humoured banter between the Greeks and Italians any day over this crap.


Wrong very wrong, MVFC are the worst supporters in the league behaviour wise, and you don’t see to much of a pommy element there, whenever they have had large groups travel, there has been trouble, it is no coincidence that there was major trouble at AU for the 1st time, when the victory supporters travel, 1st flare inside Hindmarsh in the A-league days, in fact about 9 all up, MV - 8 AU - 1.
Sydney FC and Aussie Stadium had major troubles when a large number of victory supporters travelled there early this season.
Also early in the year, trouble at the dome, didn’t see to many red shirts (or Poms) in amongst it trying to tear down a fence trying to get to away fans, to the point MVFC has the videos and pictures taken down of the net as it portrays their club in such a bad way.
it wasn’t AU supporters that threw things onto the pitch and to make the start delayed
A group of AU Poms, nothing like a group of MV Greeks, this is clear if you were right in the thick of it Friday, and at the Dome earlier in the year, and @ Olympic Park on past occasions, its going to get to a point soon where each time the travelling fans are going to either be worse, or cop it worse in retaliation for the last time MV and AU played.
as for what was said in the paper, the Richmond youth with an offensive weapon, is certainly no Pom, and i know that for a fact.


Example
http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/s ... hp?t=19116

AU has not issued anything like this, probably because the CEO is regularly coming up and having a chat and a laugh with the ''Pommy Element'' and knows everything is above board.
Our club pays for us to travel and wants us at away games, MV doesn’t, as they all know it will come back to haunt them.
Once again, the ''major element'' at MV certainly is not a Pommy, and MV are the only club that you could say has a majority following from one cultural background.

--End Rant--
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Postby Wedgie » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:07 pm

Sam_goUUUdogs wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Despite ethnic tensions between some clubs in the NSL the A-League is heading down a worse path as they've attracted a lot of the pommy element that still have the same philosophies as their UK bretheren of the past.
Give me a bit of good humoured banter between the Greeks and Italians any day over this crap.


Wrong very wrong, MVFC are the worst supporters in the league behaviour wise, and you don’t see to much of a pommy element there, whenever they have had large groups travel, there has been trouble, it is no coincidence that there was major trouble at AU for the 1st time, when the victory supporters travel, 1st flare inside Hindmarsh in the A-league days, in fact about 9 all up, MV - 8 AU - 1.
Sydney FC and Aussie Stadium had major troubles when a large number of victory supporters travelled there early this season.
Also early in the year, trouble at the dome, didn’t see to many red shirts (or Poms) in amongst it trying to tear down a fence trying to get to away fans, to the point MVFC has the videos and pictures taken down of the net as it portrays their club in such a bad way.
it wasn’t AU supporters that threw things onto the pitch and to make the start delayed
A group of AU Poms, nothing like a group of MV Greeks, this is clear if you were right in the thick of it Friday, and at the Dome earlier in the year, and @ Olympic Park on past occasions, its going to get to a point soon where each time the travelling fans are going to either be worse, or cop it worse in retaliation for the last time MV and AU played.
as for what was said in the paper, the Richmond youth with an offensive weapon, is certainly no Pom, and i know that for a fact.


Example
http://www.melbournevictory.net/forum/s ... hp?t=19116

AU has not issued anything like this, probably because the CEO is regularly coming up and having a chat and a laugh with the ''Pommy Element'' and knows everything is above board.
Our club pays for us to travel and wants us at away games, MV doesn’t, as they all know it will come back to haunt them.
Once again, the ''major element'' at MV certainly is not a Pommy, and MV are the only club that you could say has a majority following from one cultural background.

--End Rant--


Mate, read my post of 8.42am this morning, I detailed instances of the Melbourne fans and said it wasn't the first time.
I went over to Melbourne and watched finals in the past against South Melbourne and never had one problem so:
a) its not all the greeks; or
b) the Adelaide United fans bring it upon themselves.

Also never heard instances about Greeks ripping out seats from trains when coming to the soccer like the Poms notoriously have done in the past. Feel free to compare the Greek league's instances of violence compared to Britains. Greeks are harmless (well compared to Poms or Croats they are) although I do prefer the Italians.

Its probably why there was problems on Friday night because the Poms had been drinking all day at the footy. Throwing things onto the pitch is unacceptable, has been unacceptable in this country for a hundred years and isn't acceptable now.

I find it funny how the A-league was trying to de-ethnitice soccer but instead has replaced the Italians with Poms and brought more problems in Adelaide. The other major difference between Italians and the English is the Italians helped make soccer in this country while the Poms sat on their lazy arses doing nothing except for the occasional train riot.

The A League is a failed experiment (unprecedented losses despite record tv and world cup income and unprecedented violence), time for the NSL again.
Ironcially the only club that is making a bone of the A-League at the moment is Melbourne who get so many to each Telstra Dome game.
AT the very least build a soccer stadium out at Elizabeth so the rest of Adelaide doesn't have to put up with these morons.
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Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:13 pm

i dont know why you think there are so many Poms at AU games.
And why what goes on in British and Greek leagues have anything to do with the A-league today.
Most the English i know that do go to games were not there friday as they were at the cricket and kicked on elsewhere afterwards.
i suggest you go to a game, and have a look, there are alot more Italian national football shirts in the crowd than English national, and alot less English than you think.
last Adelaide United road trip we had, of the 50 on the bus, there was maybe 4 going for England in the Ashes.
the only flares thrown on the pitch were from melbourne supporters, and you will not get one person that was at the game disputing that.
As for bringing it on ourselves, if cheering your team after a win is bringing it on yourself, then i spose we deserve it, we couldn't possibly have been anymore peaceful about it, Tards always wanted to punch on and cause trouble from the very start.
your early post makes it sound like the Italians and Greeks can have a laugh together, but they just both hate the Poms, and it dosent overly matter how we act we are still going to cop it from them.
how much trouble has been seen started by the Barmy Army at the cricket over the last few days? everyone ive spoken to says the English are great fun.
Come to a game. :wink:
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Postby Wedgie » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:22 pm

Dude, I don't call throwing missiles onto the pitch and having to be physically restrained near the other supporters as just "cheering your team after a win".
You're kidding yourself there.
I doubt any trouble will start at the cricket, the Barmy Army are being watched like Hawks (and the mid strength beer helps).
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Postby heater31 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:25 pm

Wedgie wrote:I doubt any trouble will start at the cricket, the Barmy Army are being watched like Hawks (and the mid strength beer helps).


can we put silencers on those buggers??? they gave me the shites for 3 days. Go back where you came from and support your local soccer team you dimwits :twisted: :wink:
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Postby Dutchy » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:54 pm

Wedgie - I used to go to the West Adelaide games and all of the last few derby's and many of all the old faces (greeks and Italians) are at United games and LOVING it...go to a game you might be suprised
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Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:55 pm

Wedgie wrote:Dude, I don't call throwing missiles onto the pitch and having to be physically restrained near the other supporters as just "cheering your team after a win".
You're kidding yourself there.
I doubt any trouble will start at the cricket, the Barmy Army are being watched like Hawks (and the mid strength beer helps).


cheering your team after a win was in relation to the Dome, wenh well over 100 missiles were thrown at us, cheering your team after a win at OP and our bus gets rocks thrown at it.
There was Adelaide fans thrwoing bottles and coins on the pitch, as were Melbourne supporters (as well as flares in there case) but there is nothing that says it was a ''Pommy Element'' doing it, and just as many melbourne supporters were physically restrained as Adelaide, and from what i saw, the very large majority certainly were not English.
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Postby Sam_goUUUdogs » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:57 pm

heater31 wrote:
Wedgie wrote:I doubt any trouble will start at the cricket, the Barmy Army are being watched like Hawks (and the mid strength beer helps).


can we put silencers on those buggers??? they gave me the shites for 3 days. Go back where you came from and support your local soccer team you dimwits :twisted: :wink:


ah the Aussies love it. :wink: btw watch an Aussie Goes Barmy next time its on, i had a beer and chat with that Gus bloke from it for an hour or so with the camera in my face. :D
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Postby mypaddock » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:48 am

i put all friday nights violence down to one man- the arrogant kevin muscat!! he was taunting the adelaide fans all nite
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Postby JK » Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:33 pm

mypaddock wrote:i put all friday nights violence down to one man- the arrogant kevin muscat!! he was taunting the adelaide fans all nite


So people aren't responsible for their own actions now and taunts are a valid reason for stupid behaviour?? :roll: Gimme a break ...
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