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AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby Dutchy » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:24 pm

After some debate with Admin/Mods and feedback from Members it has been decided to leave the Match preview/review threads for discussion about the match only, any debate about the AFL reserves teams can continue happily in the threads already running.

Any posts from now on that do not relate directly to the match will be considered off topic and deleted.

Hopefully this will stop every thread having this debate, while a worthy topic there needs to be some balance.

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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby stan » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:33 pm

Good luck with that Dutchy.

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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby RB » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:39 pm

Dutchy wrote:Any posts from now on that do not relate directly to the match will be considered off topic and deleted.
How about if a team's AFL reserves status relates directly to the match or the result thereof?
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby Dutchy » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:47 pm

RB wrote:
Dutchy wrote:Any posts from now on that do not relate directly to the match will be considered off topic and deleted.
How about if a team's AFL reserves status relates directly to the match or the result thereof?


Discuss the effect on the match, debate the wider issue on the threads designed for such.
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby RB » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:57 pm

Fair enough.
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby johntheclaret » Fri May 02, 2014 4:34 am

Lol Rnd 5 Port v Adel thread

Greatest forward line to play in the SANFL ever. And I think one of them named has been playing for Richmond

I can see it is going to be hard work for you Dutchy :D
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby bennymacca » Fri May 02, 2014 11:00 am

To be fair he asked the question. Didn't state it as fact. Of course it was a pretty ridiculous notion as best ever but in the last 10 years there wouldn't be too many better. Even as a 5 man forward line ;)
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby CUTTERMAN » Mon May 05, 2014 1:55 pm

Anyone know what Nathan Kraquer is doing for a job in Adelaide now? I mean it's not like he can live on $400/week for playing footy is it.
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby bennymacca » Mon May 05, 2014 8:47 pm

How does the salary caps of the crows and port teams work?

From memory the crows topup players get $100 a game.

How does it work for port?
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby cennals05 » Tue May 06, 2014 10:43 am

bennymacca wrote:How does the salary caps of the crows and port teams work?

From memory the crows topup players get $100 a game.

How does it work for port?

Here are Adelaide's conditions...

Top Up players – leadership player
- AFC can contract one ‘leadership’ player per season.
- 28 years and over, must have been on AFC AFL list.

Top Up players – other
- SANFL Clubs can opt in / out of providing top up players to the AFC.
- SANFL Clubs must make the decision on in /out by November 1st.
- Should SANFL Clubs chose to opt in, they agree to always have a minimum of 2 players available for selection for the AFC.
- These players will be:
o 18 – 22 years old, on an SANFL Club list
o Selected at start of pre-season in conjunction with SANFL Clubs
o AFC and SANFL Clubs to review at conclusion of Rd 6 and Rd 12
o Cannot play against the player’s home SANFL Club
o Receive a match payment of $100
o AFC to access further ‘top up’ players from community football. These players are not to have played at SANFL level for a minimum of 18 months and will receive $400 per match.
- Top up player system to be reviewed annually.
- Should the PAFC enter a team in the SANFL League Competition with the same on field regulations as the AFC, this would need to be reviewed.

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2179/

Here are Ports conditions...

Top Up players – leadership player
• Port Adelaide Magpies support team can contract one ‘leadership’ player per season.
o 28 years and over, must have been on PAFC AFL or PAMFC list.

Top Up players – ‘Magpies listed’ contracted players
• Port Adelaide Magpies to provide a list of 15 players at the start of the season who can play at SANFL league level – contracts to be lodged with SANFL. (18 and above with no age ceiling to apply).
• Such players receive a maximum of $400 per match at SANFL league level, $100 at reserves level.

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2228/

Port didn't have any restrictions on age of top players and they were allowed to choose players already in the SANFL unlike the Crows. How Port were ever let in under different conditions astounds me. It is completely unfair. On top of this on any given day Port or Crows could have a player running around on a salary that is higher than the entire SANFL team they are playing.
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby bennymacca » Tue May 06, 2014 10:46 am

Yeah a 28 year old hardened sanfl footballer compared to a country 21 year old is a pretty big difference.

Does port have to play their afl listed players in the league team too? Plenty of rookie listed and younger afl listed players used to run around in the sanfl reserves
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby bennymacca » Tue May 06, 2014 10:47 am

Also as I understand it this will be a once off, as port lose their junior and reserves teams next year?
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby cennals05 » Tue May 06, 2014 10:52 am

bennymacca wrote:Also as I understand it this will be a once off, as port lose their junior and reserves teams next year?

Yes they do and their zones will be divided up to the other clubs I believe. Not sure if their top up player conditions will change though as there has to be a years notice to change anything.
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby JK » Tue May 06, 2014 12:01 pm

cennals05 wrote:Port didn't have any restrictions on age of top players and they were allowed to choose players already in the SANFL unlike the Crows. How Port were ever let in under different conditions astounds me. It is completely unfair. On top of this on any given day Port or Crows could have a player running around on a salary that is higher than the entire SANFL team they are playing.


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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby CUTTERMAN » Tue May 06, 2014 1:17 pm

So both Kraquer and Sommerton, to name two, are both receiving a maximum $400/game and nothing more from the PAFC.......yeh right.
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby cennals05 » Tue May 06, 2014 2:22 pm

CUTTERMAN wrote:So both Kraquer and Sommerton, to name two, are both receiving a maximum $400/game and nothing more from the PAFC.......yeh right.

I believe they've done a deal with Summerton that sees him get paid big bucks when he turns 28 and can become the leadership player.

So along with Summerton they have Butcher, Krakouer, Raikiwasa and Slattery that have had AFL or SANFL experience on their top up list. From the team that was named last week they only had 2 players that haven't played SANFL before both over the age of 22. I could probably add Haren to that list as he only played one game last year.

Slattery is their leadership player and also has a job with the Power.
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby bennymacca » Tue May 06, 2014 2:24 pm

Didn't realise their rules were so different. No wonder they are doing better than the crows
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby cennals05 » Tue May 06, 2014 2:28 pm

This is why I'm so pissed off about it. I could almost live with it if both teams had the same conditions, but the SANFL have basically handed Power Reserves the premiership.
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby kickinit » Tue May 06, 2014 8:34 pm

cennals05 wrote:
CUTTERMAN wrote:So both Kraquer and Sommerton, to name two, are both receiving a maximum $400/game and nothing more from the PAFC.......yeh right.

I believe they've done a deal with Summerton that sees him get paid big bucks when he turns 28 and can become the leadership player.

So along with Summerton they have Butcher, Krakouer, Raikiwasa and Slattery that have had AFL or SANFL experience on their top up list. From the team that was named last week they only had 2 players that haven't played SANFL before both over the age of 22. I could probably add Haren to that list as he only played one game last year.

Slattery is their leadership player and also has a job with the Power.


Port had no choice in the matter, he had a contract with the club which they have to pay.
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Re: AFL in the SANFL discussion/debate

Postby kickinit » Tue May 06, 2014 8:35 pm

bennymacca wrote:Also as I understand it this will be a once off, as port lose their junior and reserves teams next year?


lose the jnr zones not the reserve team.
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