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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Squids » Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:55 pm

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And you found out about this when? I knew that years ago, when some idiot jumped on her couch.


First time I have ever listened to her show.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby footys the winner » Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:37 am

IMO. Lance is in the same category as Ben Johnson. Both felt they had to do it because everyone else was. The only difference is lance has raised millions and millions of dollars.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby whufc » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:04 am

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leonidis wrote:What about everyone else?


Everyone did it. Everyone knew it. Where was the global outrage when Landis, Contador, etc got found out? Sure they got stripped of their titles and banned but didn't cop the fury Armstrong has. His problem was that he won more than everyone else.

Sure it wasn't the right thing to do, but it was a level playing field.

Sportsperson cheats to win. Isn't the first time. Won't be the last time...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/6203014/Top-10-sporting-scandals.html


Armstrong biggest issue was he always claimed innocence and repeatedly sued people who claimed otherwise.

Also playing with the public heart strings despite being an out and out cheat doesn't sit to well with most.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby HH3 » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:33 am

Its funny that people think Livestrong raise money for cancer research. They dont. The money goes to cancer "awareness". Which is pretty much just advertising the Livestrong organisation, and Lance Armstrong.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby dedja » Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:57 pm

That's a tad harsh.

Regardless of his brain explosions in the cycling world, his work in the cancer arena cannot be faulted.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby gutterboy » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:19 am

biggest drug cheat of all time...should take every penny off him and everything he owns what he made from the sport....he deserves nothing...let him suffer like what he done to his team mates...
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby cheetah » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:24 am

Agree. He needs 2 pay up! he has ruined lives careers! His interview was arrogant! Lock him up and throw away the key!
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby woodublieve12 » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:09 am

cheetah wrote:Agree. He needs 2 pay up! he has ruined lives careers! His interview was arrogant! Lock him up and throw away the key!


i dont reckon he owes our state or his sponsors a cent... he made alot of $$$ for them both if not more then he was paid...
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Squids » Sat Jan 26, 2013 11:52 am

real scandal is that he was on duros
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby dedja » Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:24 pm

Drago is Lance Armstrong?
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby gutterboy » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:13 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
cheetah wrote:Agree. He needs 2 pay up! he has ruined lives careers! His interview was arrogant! Lock him up and throw away the key!


i dont reckon he owes our state or his sponsors a cent... he made alot of $$$ for them both if not more then he was paid...

i do should pay back what we paid for him to be here...the guy is a cheat and a liar..should pay back every cent he made from coming here...also ruined team mates careers...!!!!
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby dedja » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:23 pm

He did what he was paid to do in Adelaide.

The eyes of the cycling world were here and it created a lot of interest.

He charmed everyone on his training rides and gave his time generously.

Regardless of his cycling flaws, Adelaide got the publicity and recognition it needed for the event to grow.

For mine, he owes us nothing.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby gutterboy » Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:43 pm

dedja wrote:He did what he was paid to do in Adelaide.

The eyes of the cycling world were here and it created a lot of interest.

He charmed everyone on his training rides and gave his time generously.

Regardless of his cycling flaws, Adelaide got the publicity and recognition it needed for the event to grow.

For mine, he owes us nothing.

i agree with they way it has grown yes....but lied on oath when he went to court....also the bullying he did and destroyed other careers he should get what he deserves...we payed alot of $$$ to get him here but he was a down right cheat...should pay back every cent he conned out of us and everyone else..!!!
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby dedja » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:01 pm

An appearing fee is different from prize money.

By all means, try to male him return prize money if it was obtained through illegal doping, but appearance fees are completely different.

Regardless of how he got his status in cycling before he was disgraced, at the time of the TDUs that he attended, he gave the state value for money.

He has already paid a heavy and just price for his indiscretions ... should we penalise him further?
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Squids » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:04 pm

I don't see the SA gov willing to give up all the money that was earned through him coming to SA, all the extra visitors spending their cash to see him.

I don't see Nike willing to give back all profits earned through Livestrong.



Then yet they want him to give back all the cash he earned. Two way street imo.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby Sky Pilot » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:11 pm

dedja wrote:He did what he was paid to do in Adelaide.

The eyes of the cycling world were here and it created a lot of interest.

He charmed everyone on his training rides and gave his time generously.

Regardless of his cycling flaws, Adelaide got the publicity and recognition it needed for the event to grow.

For mine, he owes us nothing.

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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby RustyCage » Sun Jan 27, 2013 1:25 pm

I think it's just the govt trying to play the tough guy and looking like they are doing something
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby the big bang » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:40 pm

Squids wrote:I don't see the SA gov willing to give up all the money that was earned through him coming to SA, all the extra visitors spending their cash to see him.

I don't see Nike willing to give back all profits earned through Livestrong.



Then yet they want him to give back all the cash he earned. Two way street imo.



this.

is the local deli on the esplanade in Aldinga Beach going to go and give the $11.80 back to the person that bought a hot dog and a can of coke while they were here from Toowoomba to watch Lance? No.

all PRIZE MONEY he has won, yes, i agree that should be paid back.

APPERANCE FEES he's got over the years, no, coz chances are the reason he was given an apperance fee is because organisers were using him as a promotional tool, and he was quite a good one, so they got their monies worth.
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Re: Lance Armstrong biggest disgrace since crows missed pav

Postby RustyCage » Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:17 pm

Lance can't keep out of the news at the minute. This time it is for race fixing!
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