Europe planning

[dedja]

Jeez, hope you can somehow sort it out, what a mess, not of your making.

[whufc]

Well funnily enough thats the way it maybe planning out.

My partners passport is now 3 weeks late and is at the printing stage. Has today to be printed and then needs to arrive in Australia within 8 working days. Sounds like we will have to get her passport delivered to family in Ireland and then get them to express DHL courier the passport to us as the quickest way.

If that doesn't eventuate and our daughter Aoife is going to be classified as an Irish citizen then they are going to need to go to our next stop which was Rome. That means ill go to London for 5 days as planned to catch up with my family whilst they head to Rome earlier than expected and we will catch up there.

However the Irish embassy believe we wont have any problems getting our daughter into England as they won't care for the Irish law, but they would expect the Irish customs to question where her Irish passport is as a citizen of theirs. The ironic part is that my partner is only Irish by choice not by birth as she was born in Northern Ireland.

If she was born in NI that makes her automatically a British citizen technically. It’s all getting very messy over there now

But for some comfort

UK law professor Elspeth Guild

"For travellers embarking on a trip to the UK next week who had British parents but no visible link to the UK, she had some words of comfort.

"Unless the place of birth stated on the passport indicates that the person may have birthright citizenship somewhere else, it is virtually impossible without a detailed investigation to know whether someone is a dual national. This is particularly so where citizenship was acquired through ancestry rather than place of birth."

Nah so this is the technicality......

Being born in Britian or even in Australia for that matter does not automatically make you a citizen of those countries. Mrs Whufc is an automatic british citizen because of when her parents resided in NI ect.

However Ireland is different and is one of only a few countries on the planet where being born in that country automatically means citizenship no matter the circumstances surrounding the birth location.

[whufc]

Here is the laws in Australia

Being born in Australia does not automatically grant you Australian citizenship; it depends on your parents' citizenship or residency status at the time of your birth.

Citizenship Laws in Australia
1. Birth Before August 20, 1986:
If you were born in Australia before this date, you are automatically an Australian citizen, regardless of your parents' nationality.

2. Birth After August 20, 1986:
For those born in Australia after this date, you are only considered an Australian citizen at birth if at least one of your parents was an Australian citizen or a permanent resident at the time of your birth.

3. Children of New Zealand Citizens:
Since July 1, 2022, children born in Australia to New Zealand citizens are also granted Australian citizenship at birth.

4. Exceptions:
Children born to foreign diplomats in Australia do not acquire Australian citizenship, even if born on Australian soil.