NASCAR

[The Sleeping Giant]

Gordon unlucky. Ambrose no good. Righty o

[the milky bar kid]

Not Marcos Ambrose, he's much more humble!

I know a little bit about NASCAR & I know that the fastest cars in the field are the 4 Hendrick cars & the Stewart Hass cars are the ones to be in on average. (season 2012 - Hendrick/SH 6 wins, RFR/PRP 2 wins)

Gordon has been unlucky to pretty much the same degree at Marcos Ambrose, I was just making a point, but apparantely being given the best car every week & finishing 15-30 is just unlucky

[RustyCage]

If Ambrose has a winning car each week maybe his team mates should be given a winning car too

[Bully]

IMO this is the reason i believe NASCAR is streets ahead of the V8s, as in the V8s its the same old drivers winning week in and out, and maybe one corner to pass on the track. NASCAR 43 drivers or near enough too can win it, and you can actually pass, 36 races in the season no 4 week breaks etc.

ambrose and gordon have bad luck this year by the looks

[The Real Number 3]

Bully, you are an idiot.

Dale Jnr - Legend!!
Jeff Gordon - Terrible... always finding trouble because he is racing mid pack where all the accidents happen
Ambrose - Terribly unlucky with car issues.

[Bully]

Bully, you are an idiot.

Dale Jnr - Legend!!
Jeff Gordon - Terrible... always finding trouble because he is racing mid pack where all the accidents happen
Ambrose - Terribly unlucky with car issues.

name calling behind a computer screen DoesNOT make you a big man.

Dale Jnr - Legend you say?? How many races and championships has he( won 2 championships in the nationwide/busch series which is not that big over there considering the Sprint cup)?? Can you remind me????. His last race win before this week was nearly 4 years ago, he is in his prime.....yeah, true legend as you say
A legend is Richard petty, a legend is Darryl Waltrip, a legend is Rusty Wallace, a legend is Jimme Johnson , a legend is Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt SNR is a legend,these drivers have won multiple races and championships, unlike your legend Dale Jnr

[Bully]

Ambrose qualified on pole for Sonoma Road course track

[Bully]

clint bowyer the winner for sonoma road course.

J Gordon finished 6th
Ambrose finished 8th

[the milky bar kid]

Different race to the previous years. Less carnage then before (until the end at least)
Marcos' car was a disappointment, the team certainly missed the set up for the long runs.

Interesting developments this week with Kenseth moved on from the 17 for Rousch nationwide driver Stenhouse Jnr. Kenseth has already said that he's signed for another team in 2013 & beyond, but will announce at a later date. Ford executives have said it's unlikely he'd be resigning with a Ford team.
Leaving options including
- either the 4th car at an expanded JGR (most likely) or replacing Logano (probably unlikely)
- either the 4th car at an expanded RCR or replacing Burton
- replacing Almirola in the 43 at RPR who move to become the #1 Dodge team. (Dodge of course still looking for a team to run there car)

Shows alot for the economy over there when a former champion is moved on partly due to a lack of funding.
* same to a degree with Kurt Busch, but he has slightly more baggage.

[Bully]

didn't watch much of this race, seeing NASCAR on oval tracks and when they go to road course tracks, they look out of place. Their cars dont suit road course tracks

[heater31]

didn't watch much of this race, seeing NASCAR on oval tracks and when they go to road course tracks, they look out of place. Their cars dont suit road course tracks

Doesn't suit some of the drivers either.

[Bully]

agreed, and before im told off by a few on here, Dale Jnr as come out before and stated he cant stand road course tracks.

so he never does well on them.

[heater31]

agreed, and before im told off by a few on here, Dale Jnr as come out before and stated he cant stand road course tracks.

so he never does well on them.

He was the main one I was directing that at. Dead set useless on road tracks

[Bully]

and again, ambrose given one of if not the fastest car, on a road course, and still does not win, not even top 5!. Surely, surely he should have won that race with the car he was given and a track that suits his style. But im sure i will be told otherwise....

[tigerpie]

and again, ambrose given one of if not the fastest car, on a road course, and still does not win, not even top 5!. Surely, surely he should have won that race with the car he was given and a track that suits his style. But im sure i will be told otherwise....

Yep you are....
He's a star!
Quite simply they just couldnt get a handle on the car over a long haul.
Drove brilliantly to get pole.
Has driven this curcuit in a slow car and still won!
He'll keep his drive for next year no worries.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Well said tigerpie. Car certainly wasn't dialled in.

Bully really should get over his obsession with Marcus. ;-)

[Bully]

and again, ambrose given one of if not the fastest car, on a road course, and still does not win, not even top 5!. Surely, surely he should have won that race with the car he was given and a track that suits his style. But im sure i will be told otherwise....

Yep you are....
He's a star!
Quite simply they just couldnt get a handle on the car over a long haul.
Drove brilliantly to get pole.
Has driven this curcuit in a slow car and still won!
He'll keep his drive for next year no worries.

Yep, like SG said, well said Tiger. Yep, he drove brilliantly to get POLE. Yep, very good driving to get POLE. Could not have done better

think you might wanna check your statistics, he has never won at Sonoma. He had a chance last season, but again, stuffed it up with 7 laps to go not following NASCAR rules and keeping pace with the pace car under caution.

[the milky bar kid]

For the NASCAR expert you claim to be bully, you sure make some non expert calls...
All experts talk about pace on the long and short run, yes Marcos had short run pace, but the team missed the mark terribly to long run pace. The fact Marcos tyres dropped off 10 laps into a run, where other cars would last 15-20 laps before the same drop off.
The other guy with the quickest car out there, only finished 6th and was beaten by 3 guys in the same equipment.

[tigerpie]

and again, ambrose given one of if not the fastest car, on a road course, and still does not win, not even top 5!. Surely, surely he should have won that race with the car he was given and a track that suits his style. But im sure i will be told otherwise....

Yep you are....
He's a star!
Quite simply they just couldnt get a handle on the car over a long haul.
Drove brilliantly to get pole.
Has driven this curcuit in a slow car and still won!
He'll keep his drive for next year no worries.

Yep, like SG said, well said Tiger. Yep, he drove brilliantly to get POLE. Yep, very good driving to get POLE. Could not have done better

think you might wanna check your statistics, he has never won at Sonoma. He had a chance last season, but again, stuffed it up with 7 laps to go not following NASCAR rules and keeping pace with the pace car under caution.

My mistake bully, Watkins Glenn he won, but it was 2010 where the team told him to shut down the motor to save fuel and it wouldnt re-start.

[Bully]

For the NASCAR expert you claim to be bully, you sure make some non expert calls...
All experts talk about pace on the long and short run, yes Marcos had short run pace, but the team missed the mark terribly to long run pace. The fact Marcos tyres dropped off 10 laps into a run, where other cars would last 15-20 laps before the same drop off.
The other guy with the quickest car out there, only finished 6th and was beaten by 3 guys in the same equipment.

Please explain to me, where i said anything about being an expert in NASCAR, and where i have ever said i know everything about the sport?
Before you say, "your comments are poor" i am mearly expressing my views in most of the cases with him, and i am quite allowed to on a public forum. I have never said, you cant say Jeff Gordon is woeful have i??