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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby kickinit » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:13 pm

Why don't u get them off him and post them for us
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby PPLions » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:20 pm

kickinit wrote:The point you and a lot of people are missing on this issue is the fact he is taking a pill to lose his weight. After 3 months he has to stop taking the pill then what happens? If he couldn't lose weight on a "diet" before the pill then how is he going to continue to lose weight after he stops taking the pill? My whole point is majority of people like Drago (as he's still playing cricket i'm guessing there's no medical condition to prevent him from weight lose) are fat because they are lazy. He's once again taking the easy option, he needs to get serious and if he wants to lose weight and keep it off the only way is by a good diet and exercise plan. Taking a pill for 3 months isn't going to solve his problems for him. So in my eyes someone taking a pill that forces you to not feel hungry, to the point of not eating for a whole day (not very healthy) isn't really a big achievement. Also havent seen the before or after photo's yet so let's not take some muppets word for it just yet.

That's a very simplistic and generalised view kickinit. Let's take Drago as an example. He works night shift in his job, usually 6 days a week and then returns home to assist with the care of his young baby who is only a few months old. For people in that type of situation "spare time" is limited, and they understandably are often very tired. Duromine assists not only with appetite suppression but with energy levels. One of the effects of Duromine is to assist in giving someone such as Drago the energy to go for a jog or do some other form of exercise. This can then lead to positive habits (such as daily exercise) that continue after the use of Duromine ends.
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby PPLions » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:24 pm

kickinit wrote:Why don't u get them off him and post them for us

To quote a local sports reporter, for "unknown reasons" cheetah is still banned from posting, and so I can post the following progress photos of Drago.
Here is the initial "before" photo of Drago, showing his pre-duromine condition
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby PPLions » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:25 pm

Drago's initial weight
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby PPLions » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:25 pm

Drago's current weight
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby PPLions » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:28 pm

And Drago's current condition.
So a weight loss of about 14 kilograms to date
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby kickinit » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:08 pm

PPLions wrote:That's a very simplistic and generalised view kickinit. Let's take Drago as an example. He works night shift in his job, usually 6 days a week and then returns home to assist with the care of his young baby who is only a few months old. For people in that type of situation "spare time" is limited, and they understandably are often very tired. Duromine assists not only with appetite suppression but with energy levels. One of the effects of Duromine is to assist in giving someone such as Drago the energy to go for a jog or do some other form of exercise. This can then lead to positive habits (such as daily exercise) that continue after the use of Duromine ends.


Haha mate the good old excuse of i havent got any spare time i'm too tired is what you call LAZY. I've been away worked 4 weeks swings sometimes working 14-16 hr days in 40+ degree temps and still had the energy and time to exercise. If you want to change your lifestyle then you will find the time to do it. Eating right will give you the energy you need to exercise.

Look Drago might get his life together once he gets off Duromine and keep up the weight lose. my whole point you are missing is that he could of done this without using Duromine. What duromine is doing to him at the moment is not allowing him to get hungry so he doesnt binge eat. But when he comes of duromine unless he changes his lifestyle then he WILL put the weight back on. plus he won't be putting his body through what he is going through now, because it is unhealthy and that's why there is medical risk in taking duromine.

It would also be good if you could post a front view like his starting photo at his current weight. Comparing a front view to a side view really is pretty hard to see any differance.
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby Squids » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:57 pm

I am sure you being an ignoramus will be all the motivation drago needs to keep the weight off kickinit.
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby kickinit » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:31 am

Squids wrote:I am sure you being an ignoramus will be all the motivation drago needs to keep the weight off kickinit.


but what happens to him when he comes of duromine? if he lives a busy lifestyle why can he now exercise? If you have a correct diet ( and i'll be the first to tell you there is a lot of bad diets out there) there is no need for a appetite suppressant. The thing is once you come off duromine you have to change your lifestyle, which if done from day one would result in not having to use a pill that can do some serious damage.

I really hope he does succeed and change his life around, and doesn't fall into the trap a lot of people do when doing stuff like this. I just can't work out if he can't Do a diet properly now because of his busy lifestyle how is he going to do it when he comes off duromine?
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby Wedgie » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:26 am

Its a pity I havent lost a kilo for every time this discussion has gone round in circles. Id be the only 6 foot 2 jockey if I had! :lol:
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby Phantom Gossiper » Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:49 am

Kickinit you need to understand there are other factors that need to be taken into account, age, weight, medical condition, mental health, lifestyle etc etc.

It's all well and good for you to say you train after work, but I bet your young prob mid 20s? And don't you do work as a PT as well? You need to stay fit, and being fit and already active and in a routine is much easier.

For someone who may be say 30 plus and overweight its tough to initially get that motivation to go for a run or go to the gym, not to mention it can feel embarrassing and the gym can be intimidating.

I say promote your healthy living, as it is of course the best way but dont knock people who are at least making a conscious effort to better their lives even if it is with the help of a pill.

Well done to drago, terrific work so far, keep it up and off! No doubt would've already discovered a new confidence in himself
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby Q. » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:22 am

The most influencial factor in weight loss/gain is diet. Technically, one wouldn't even need to start exercising or going to the gym to lose weight - just consume under maintenance calories every day. That is something that doesn't require you to 'find time'.
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby heater31 » Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:33 am

Now if he is seeing a doctor regularly as part of this then now the doc should be looking to educate his patient for when he stops taking the drug.

This is where the healthy eating, regular exercise speech should be rolled out.

Probably worth keeping the visiting the doctor after finishing taking the drug to monitor how things are going.
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby kickinit » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:00 pm

Phantom Gossiper wrote:Kickinit you need to understand there are other factors that need to be taken into account, age, weight, medical condition, mental health, lifestyle etc etc.

It's all well and good for you to say you train after work, but I bet your young prob mid 20s? And don't you do work as a PT as well? You need to stay fit, and being fit and already active and in a routine is much easier.

For someone who may be say 30 plus and overweight its tough to initially get that motivation to go for a run or go to the gym, not to mention it can feel embarrassing and the gym can be intimidating.

I say promote your healthy living, as it is of course the best way but dont knock people who are at least making a conscious effort to better their lives even if it is with the help of a pill.

Well done to drago, terrific work so far, keep it up and off! No doubt would've already discovered a new confidence in himself


nope in my mid 30's and work in the resource sector. Been working min 12hr shift for the last 17 years and sometimes in some extreme heat.

My whole point i'm trying to get through to people is you can do this without duromine. Duromine is only intended for people who seriously need to lose weight quickly because of a medical condition. Now to me if Drago is already playing cricket and by the sounds of it he was still playing before duromine then why is he on it? Yes it might give the person a kickstart to losing weight but tat the end of the day what happens when they come of duromine, they need to change there lifestyle. they can do it now or be lazy and put it off for 3 months but if they don't then they will put the weight back on.
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby JK » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:18 pm

Wedgie wrote:Its a pity I havent lost a kilo for every time this discussion has gone round in circles. Id be the only 6 foot 2 jockey if I had! :lol:


Steven Arnold is pretty close to that IIRC
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby The Dark Knight » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:19 pm

Q. wrote:The most influencial factor in weight loss/gain is diet. Technically, one wouldn't even need to start exercising or going to the gym to lose weight - just consume under maintenance calories every day. That is something that doesn't require you to 'find time'.

Stop making sense. :lol:
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby Wedgie » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:48 pm

I think kickinit needs to reiterate his point, I missed it. :lol:
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby kickinit » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:36 pm

Wedgie wrote:I think kickinit needs to reiterate his point, I missed it. :lol:


:lol:

I think these guys are just brain washed into thinking duromine is the only way. it's funny they still havent answered what is he going to do once he comes off the pill.
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby Q. » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:45 pm

kickinit wrote:
Wedgie wrote:I think kickinit needs to reiterate his point, I missed it. :lol:


:lol:

I think these guys are just brain washed into thinking duromine is the only way. it's funny they still havent answered what is he going to do once he comes off the pill.


Hopefully stay motivated and committed to whatever his goal his. Not easy without drugs, but not impossible either.
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Re: Duromine vs Professional athlete

Postby Squids » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:46 pm

kickinit wrote:
Wedgie wrote:I think kickinit needs to reiterate his point, I missed it. :lol:


:lol:

I think these guys are just brain washed into thinking duromine is the only way. it's funny they still havent answered what is he going to do once he comes off the pill.


Would you not think the noticeable weight loss would be motivation enough to keep going?

Sure you could do it without duromine, millions do, but if it is going to make it easier and drago has contemplated the side effects and has decided to use it, good luck to him.


What you need to realise kickinit is drago is not one of the typical people that take duromine, ie. 40 year old women who take it and do no exercise. A quick google search showed me this. Drago was a trained athlete before his broken leg. He once ran 4 laps of an oval barefoot on bitumen on a 40 degree day.
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