WEIGHT LOSS + the challenge

[Q.]

For starters diet 100% of any weight loss if your diet isn't correct you ain't going to lose weight.

So your telling me that if I have egg salad before I go to bed I'm going to put on weight?

Good old people working in a fitness centre, can you let me know which fitness centre you work at so I make sure I've never visit it.

Jetts

[whufc]

For starters diet 100% of any weight loss if your diet isn't correct you ain't going to lose weight.

So your telling me that if I have egg salad before I go to bed I'm going to put on weight?

Good old people working in a fitness centre, can you let me know which fitness centre you work at so I make sure I've never visit it.

Ill clarify im not a PT but i spend countless hours working along side PT's/nutritionists

Not egg and lettuce sandwich but if you are putting in lots of carbs before going to bed your definatly not going to lose weight overnight are you.

Obviously i must be doing something right as i have dropped 18 kilos in less than a year without stepping onto a treadmill once. The only changes i have made is dietry and what, which and when meals i eat.

The people on this website that know me can back me up with that comment as well.

[heater31]

Obviously i must be doing something right as i have dropped 18 kilos in less than a year without stepping onto a treadmill once. The only changes i have made is dietry and what, which and when meals i eat.

Best bit advice I got from a training program I bought of the net. Every individual is different, experiment to find what works for you as you know your body better than anyone.

If you find something that works then by all means share it as someone could be able to modify it for them.

[whufc]

Obviously i must be doing something right as i have dropped 18 kilos in less than a year without stepping onto a treadmill once. The only changes i have made is dietry and what, which and when meals i eat.

Best bit advice I got from a training program I bought of the net. Every individual is different, experiment to find what works for you as you know your body better than anyone.

If you find something that works then by all means share it as someone could be able to modify it for them.

Exactly there are thousands of different ways and its not all as simple one method.

A story i was told by a lady at work (now this could be a load of rubbish but im not in the know to know whether its carp)

She weighed about 90-95kg and use to do around 45 mins of cardio 4 times a week. She claimed she was eating real healthy as well but couldnt lose the weight.

She was seeing a nutrionist and after a while it was discovered (?) found(?) etc etc that the reason for her weight was that her body for whatever reason really struggled to break down yeast. Figuring she had spent a fair bit of coin paying for the advice she had nothing to lose by cutting out all products that contained yeast.

She went on to lose 15kg in 6 months and has never looked back since one simple change.

[heater31]

Obviously i must be doing something right as i have dropped 18 kilos in less than a year without stepping onto a treadmill once. The only changes i have made is dietry and what, which and when meals i eat.

Best bit advice I got from a training program I bought of the net. Every individual is different, experiment to find what works for you as you know your body better than anyone.

If you find something that works then by all means share it as someone could be able to modify it for them.

Exactly there are thousands of different ways and its not all as simple one method.

A story i was told by a lady at work (now this could be a load of rubbish but im not in the know to know whether its carp)

She weighed about 90-95kg and use to do around 45 mins of cardio 4 times a week. She claimed she was eating real healthy as well but couldnt lose the weight.

She was seeing a nutrionist and after a while it was discovered (?) found(?) etc etc that the reason for her weight was that her body for whatever reason really struggled to break down yeast. Figuring she had spent a fair bit of coin paying for the advice she had nothing to lose by cutting out all products that contained yeast.

She went on to lose 15kg in 6 months and has never looked back since one simple change.

My cousin was the same. Could not lose weight for the life of her. Then discovered she had diabetes

[kickinit]

For starters diet 100% of any weight loss if your diet isn't correct you ain't going to lose weight.

So your telling me that if I have egg salad before I go to bed I'm going to put on weight?

Good old people working in a fitness centre, can you let me know which fitness centre you work at so I make sure I've never visit it.

Ill clarify im not a PT but i spend countless hours working along side PT's/nutritionists

Not egg and lettuce sandwich but if you are putting in lots of carbs before going to bed your definatly not going to lose weight overnight are you.

Obviously i must be doing something right as i have dropped 18 kilos in less than a year without stepping onto a treadmill once. The only changes i have made is dietry and what, which and when meals i eat.

The people on this website that know me can back me up with that comment as well.

So your telling me that if my daily calorie intake is 2000 and I've only had 1000 calories for the day, that if I've have 300 calories before bed I'm going to put on weight?

[whufc]

For starters diet 100% of any weight loss if your diet isn't correct you ain't going to lose weight.

So your telling me that if I have egg salad before I go to bed I'm going to put on weight?

Good old people working in a fitness centre, can you let me know which fitness centre you work at so I make sure I've never visit it.

Ill clarify im not a PT but i spend countless hours working along side PT's/nutritionists

Not egg and lettuce sandwich but if you are putting in lots of carbs before going to bed your definatly not going to lose weight overnight are you.

Obviously i must be doing something right as i have dropped 18 kilos in less than a year without stepping onto a treadmill once. The only changes i have made is dietry and what, which and when meals i eat.

The people on this website that know me can back me up with that comment as well.

So your telling me that if my daily calorie intake is 2000 and I've only had 1000 calories for the day, that if I've have 300 calories before bed I'm going to put on weight?

Simply put if you have 300 calories for breakfast througout a day you are likely to burn those calories if you have 300 kilos and then go to bed your not going to burn those calories while sleeping.

If you have dinner around 6 and then stay up doing things for another 3 hours before bed you are likely to burn some of those calories off plus the small amount your body burns while sleeping.

If you have dinner around 9 and then go straight to bed you will only burn the small amount your body burns while sleeping.

Higher performance.

[kickinit]

For starters diet 100% of any weight loss if your diet isn't correct you ain't going to lose weight.

So your telling me that if I have egg salad before I go to bed I'm going to put on weight?

Good old people working in a fitness centre, can you let me know which fitness centre you work at so I make sure I've never visit it.

Ill clarify im not a PT but i spend countless hours working along side PT's/nutritionists

Not egg and lettuce sandwich but if you are putting in lots of carbs before going to bed your definatly not going to lose weight overnight are you.

Obviously i must be doing something right as i have dropped 18 kilos in less than a year without stepping onto a treadmill once. The only changes i have made is dietry and what, which and when meals i eat.

The people on this website that know me can back me up with that comment as well.

So your telling me that if my daily calorie intake is 2000 and I've only had 1000 calories for the day, that if I've have 300 calories before bed I'm going to put on weight?

Simply put if you have 300 calories for breakfast througout a day you are likely to burn those calories if you have 300 kilos and then go to bed your not going to burn those calories while sleeping.

If you have dinner around 6 and then stay up doing things for another 3 hours before bed you are likely to burn some of those calories off plus the small amount your body burns while sleeping.

If you have dinner around 9 and then go straight to bed you will only burn the small amount your body burns while sleeping.

Higher performance.

This is why you never pay anyone for anything involved in diets or fitness programs as everything is available on the net. Not only that most of the time you are recieveing information from someone that has never had there body to the point you want yours. Would you trust a pilot if they had passed all of there test and is qualified to fly a plane but has never actually flown one?

http://www.livestrong.com/article/50285 ... ight-loss/

[whufc]

Totally agree with your last point, though you do have to be very selective with what you believe or trust from the internet as well.

Obviously PT's have their interest first and lots will tell you to spend way longer than you will need to in the gym to look after their own business.

Ill im saying really is that its not always as simple as cals in cals out. Adding counting exact Calories and knowing exactly the amount you need is not an easy task especially if your not always eating packaged food eg a six inch from subway is not always going to have the exact measurement of Mayonaise every time you have one.

[dedja]

it's just a myth. I've said it before calories in vs calories out that is the basic to every single diet on the planet.

You sir, sound like you know what you're talking about.

That's all I've been doing the last 2 months ... 11kgs lost

[whufc]

it's just a myth. I've said it before calories in vs calories out that is the basic to every single diet on the planet.

You sir, sound like you know what you're talking about.

That's all I've been doing the last 2 months ... 11kgs lost

Great going mate if your not careful you will be smaller than me by the next bays central game.

[kickinit]

Totally agree with your last point, though you do have to be very selective with what you believe or trust from the internet as well.

Obviously PT's have their interest first and lots will tell you to spend way longer than you will need to in the gym to look after their own business.

Ill im saying really is that its not always as simple as cals in cals out. Adding counting exact Calories and knowing exactly the amount you need is not an easy task especially if your not always eating packaged food eg a six inch from subway is not always going to have the exact measurement of Mayonaise every time you have one.

It is as simple as calories in vs calories. If you more calories then your daily maint amount are you going to lose weight?

[whufc]

Totally agree with your last point, though you do have to be very selective with what you believe or trust from the internet as well.

Obviously PT's have their interest first and lots will tell you to spend way longer than you will need to in the gym to look after their own business.

Ill im saying really is that its not always as simple as cals in cals out. Adding counting exact Calories and knowing exactly the amount you need is not an easy task especially if your not always eating packaged food eg a six inch from subway is not always going to have the exact measurement of Mayonaise every time you have one.

It is as simple as calories in vs calories. If you more calories then your daily maint amount are you going to lose weight?

Ok if you spend the next 30 days and all you eat is 1 whopper per day that is it nothing else. Eat that whopper at say 3pm. You will be under your calorie count but i guarentee you, you will not lose weight.

Reason your metabolism will be screwed, secondly if you dont eat regulary and starve yourselve your body holds on to all the fat it can.

Secondly as i said before how can you accurately guage your calorie in take, secondly most calorie counting on machines at gym etc etc are useless, they dont take into acount how quickly an individual can burn calories at. How do you measure the exact amount of calories you have burnt while sleeping.

If you are keeping your calories fairly low but jucing yourseldf with lots of carbs your going to struggle with weight loss.

The calories dont take into account how much sugar the carbs turn into if not burned.

[whufc]

http://www.thegreatfitnessexperiment.co ... stead.html

have a look at this, offers a different perspective.

as the article says calories in calories out is great but it doesnt take into account the third factor which almost the most imprortant Metabolism.

1. All calories are not created equal. Calories from different types of food are digested, absorbed, stored, and burned very differently in the body. A calorie of fat eaten is very likely to end up in your fat cells. A calorie of protein is very unlikely to add to your fat storage at all (in fact, is likely to help you be leaner). A calorie of carbohydrate may be very likely or very unlikely to be stored as fat depending on what is eaten with it and the chronological proximity to exercise.

[dedja]

I'd have to agree.

This is what I'm doing.

- make sure I always have breakfast, which I rarely did before
- make sure I have 3 meals a day, roughly of equal size (calorie count)
- eat lots of fresh fruit & veg
- no soft drinks but lots of water
- cut out as much processed food as possible, but not restricting the range of foods I eat
- indulge every now and again but be sensible
- increase exercise by getting on the bike as much as possible

I did count calories for a week but not since then. I roughly look at calorie count but nutritional value is just as important.

For eg, most breads have roughly the same calorie count, but I eat wholegrain instead of white

[whufc]

I'd have to agree.

This is what I'm doing.

- make sure I always have breakfast, which I rarely did before
- make sure I have 3 meals a day, roughly of equal size (calorie count)
- eat lots of fresh fruit & veg
- no soft drinks but lots of water
- cut out as much processed food as possible, but not restricting the range of foods I eat
- indulge every now and again but be sensible
- increase exercise by getting on the bike as much as possible

I did count calories for a week but not since then. I roughly look at calorie count but nutritional value is just as important.

For eg, most breads have roughly the same calorie count, but I eat wholegrain instead of white

Was the biggest change i made in my lifestyle. I never ate breakfast but now i will make sure that at very least i eat a piece of toast.

Imho what you have layed out is the best possible diet, it has to be something that can be maintained and while corny 'be a lifestyle change.' In my experience people that have followed that have had most success.

[dedja]

From my point of view, unless it is sustainable it's a waste of time.

Time will tell ... let's see where I'm at in 12 months.

[kickinit]

http://www.thegreatfitnessexperiment.com/2011/07/harvard-says-calories-incalories-out-model-is-flawed-so-what-do-we-use-instead.html

have a look at this, offers a different perspective.

as the article says calories in calories out is great but it doesnt take into account the third factor which almost the most imprortant Metabolism.

1. All calories are not created equal. Calories from different types of food are digested, absorbed, stored, and burned very differently in the body. A calorie of fat eaten is very likely to end up in your fat cells. A calorie of protein is very unlikely to add to your fat storage at all (in fact, is likely to help you be leaner). A calorie of carbohydrate may be very likely or very unlikely to be stored as fat depending on what is eaten with it and the chronological proximity to exercise.

I totaly agree with most of the article (some of things need to be clarified which i'm sure is in the original article) and I stated in previous post diet 100%. There is good foods and bad foods and the biggest killers is "98% fat free" usually you will find these still have a heap of sugar in them. But at the end of the day eating more calories from good foods then you burn are you going to lose weight? Like you said if you you eat 1 whopper a day and that's it you are going to stuff your metabolism, but also if you eat 1000 calories of good food and your maint level is 2000 you will also do this. for weight loss you should be looking at 300-500 calorie deficit of your maint calorie intake. Yes there are many factors which will make your daily calorie intake differ from day to day and that's where you have to be true with yourself. There are many calculators on the net that will determine your calorie intake for the day, the best way is to do 3-4 and go off the average you will find most will be the same. Metabolism still plays a factor and that's where you have to play around with the calories to find whats right for you. Unless you can provide research where if you eat more calories then your daily maint calories you will lose then I think it's safe to say it's calories in vs calories out.

[Q.]

It would take about two weeks of consistently skipping meals to start having an effect on metabolism. Fasting for one day out of every week is very unlikely to impact on metabolism.

Also, consistently consuming a small meal close to sleep is likely to increase your metabolism.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Also, consistently consuming a small meal close to sleep is likely to increase your metabolism.

Surely not!?