WHATS AUSTRALIA BECOMING?

[JAS]

I'm not taking the p*ss I honestly believe we all need a guy like this in charge of our respective prison systems. Saw a documentry abut him and he might be controversial but he gets results. Only problem over here is...nowhere hot enough to put the tents...wonder if the cold would have a similar effect.

http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModu ... heriff_Bio

Regards
JAS

[Snaggletooth Tiger]

Race issues eh?...

Won't touch that subject with a 20 foot pole!
(No NOT someone from Warsaw!)

[mal]

It was a good friend of Adam Gilchrist who is wearing a black arm band in the First Test v India.
When the law treats groups appropriately regardless of creed + race then
the odds of repetition by a said group will hopefully lower on this reoccuring.

Its time all people were treated equally in this country
It matters not if they are migrants/locals or indigenous
Do the crime do the time.

I feel gutted and sickened this could happen in our country.

[Pseudo]

Lock the bastards involved up for life, every single one of them.
Only sad part about that is the amount of money it will cost the tax payer.

Pity we can't have a prison like the one in the 3rd series of Prison Break to throw these bastards into. Low maintenance, low cost and effective.

If I was dictator of this fine nation, I would sanction the following punishment:

1. Apprehend each and every member of the offending party
2. Tie each and every one to the ground, in spreadeagled position
3. Supply the dead bloke's family with cricket bats
4. Leave 'em to it.

[therisingblues]

Absolute shocker this one. When I heard the first reports, I thought for sure that we were missing part of the story, it just didn't add up that people would be attacked and killed when they were minding their own business. The more details that emerge, the more it looks as though I was wrong. The old story of it takes two to tango seems to have given way.
I read on Yahoo news that one of the gang was probably as young as twelve!

[JAS]

At least we live in countries where you are still allowed to publically voice your opposition to the government and it's policies.

RIP Benazir

Regards
JAS

[Dirko]

If I was dictator of this fine nation, I would sanction the following punishment:

1. Apprehend each and every member of the offending party
2. Tie each and every one to the ground, in spreadeagled position
3. Supply the dead bloke's family with cricket bats
4. Leave 'em to it.

Well said Pseudo, just like the fire bug "lady" from the hills....
In a room...petrol...cover...flick matches....

The law in Australia stinks. Struth go to Singapore and if you get caught dropping Chewing gum on the ground a $10000 fine. Do graffiti cop a fine and get the cane, drugs = death etc etc...

The problem is, is that the longer we go as a nation pussy footing around and handing out nancy sentences the more we will put up with scum of the earth getting away with it...

The only sentence I can think of that was adequate were those bastards in NSW who pack raped that girl and got 30 odd years, and then they've got the balls to appeal...Pity they weren't castrated before hand though...

[Psyber]

I'm not taking the p*ss I honestly believe we all need a guy like this in charge of our respective prison systems. Saw a documentry abut him and he might be controversial but he gets results. Only problem over here is...nowhere hot enough to put the tents...wonder if the cold would have a similar effect.

http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModu ... heriff_Bio

Regards
JAS

As many on this site may predict, I'd vote for him!

[Wedgie]

I'm not taking the p*ss I honestly believe we all need a guy like this in charge of our respective prison systems. Saw a documentry abut him and he might be controversial but he gets results. Only problem over here is...nowhere hot enough to put the tents...wonder if the cold would have a similar effect.

http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModu ... heriff_Bio

Regards
JAS

As many on this site may predict, I'd vote for him!

That doesn't surprise me.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio vs. The Truth

Sheriff Joe Arpaio takes credit for many things where the credit is not his to take. It is time for some truth about the sheriff.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: The Sheriff claims he has a .50 caliber machine gun for use in shooting down terrorist aircraft or explosive laden tractor-trailer rigs. He also claims the machine gun is the only one owned by a U.S. law enforcement agency.

Truth: The part about the gun being the only one in U.S. law enforcement is probably true and for good reason. Other police chiefs and sheriffs realize that a .50 caliber machine gun is so powerful and so dangerous that it has no place in civilian police work. As to shooting down airplanes and destroying trucks loaded with explosives, how would Sheriff Sheriff Joe Arpaio know which ones to shoot at? It is highly unlikely that the terrorists would notify authorities when and where they are going to strike so the gun could be put in place. Also, Sheriff Sheriff Joe Arpaio stated that, unlike the U.S. Air Force, he needs no presidential authority before shooting down airplanes.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: The Norberg wrongful death lawsuit was settled out of court for $8.25 million. Sheriff Sheriff Joe Arpaio has repeatedly claimed that this cost the taxpayers nothing since it was paid by an insurance company.

Truth: At the time of the settlement the county had a $1 million "deductible" on its coverage. The taxpayers had to pay the first $1,000,000 on this case and now the deductible has been raised to $5 million.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He arrested Elvis Presley.

Truth: Actually, Sheriff Joe Arpaio sometimes claims to have arrested Elvis and other times he claims to have stopped him for a traffic violation. No police records nor Presley family records have ever surfaced to show any contact between Elvis and Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He invented the idea of housing prisoners in tents.

Truth: The Arizona Department of Corrections has used tents for decades. Facilities in other states also used tents before Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He claims credit for feeding green bologna (surplus food) to inmates.

Truth: Jails and prisons here in Arizona and all over the county feed surplus food to inmates and have done so for many years.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He was a Korean War veteran.

Truth: This one is tricky. He was in the Army during the Korean War but he never set foot there. His overseas assignment was in France.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He is the "Toughest Sheriff in America".

Truth: This is a title he gave himself. During his years as sheriff he has not made even one arrest and, on those rare occasions where he was present when an arrest was necessary , others had to do it.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He is the "Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the County" and has authority over all police departments and the DPS.

Truth: Another meaningless title. He has no authority over other police agencies.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He broke the famous "French Connection."

Truth: The people really involved in this case never heard of Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He was involved in "numerous gun battels" and "weekly shootout" as a DEA agent.

Truth: Virtually no one in the police business believes these claims. There would be something desperately wrong with any police officer that gets into weekly shootout.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Wants people to think he created the posse program.

Truth: The modern day posse program dates back to the 1930s. These volunteer groups provide a wide range of important services to the county including search and rescue, enforcement support, and community crime prevention. Many of the posse members resent being used by Sheriff Joe Arpaio for publicity stunts like the "Van Buren Street Prostitution Patrol."

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Recidivism in the jails was reduced during his time as sheriff.

Truth: Sheriff Joe Arpaio spent $10,000 in taxpayer money to have Arizona State University study recidivism in the jail system. The result showed that there was no change in the rate at which inmates returned to jail. Sheriff Joe Arpaio immediately declared that ASU was wrong.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Prior to his election he declared that the sheriff should be an appointed position like that of chiefs of police and that he would only serve one term.

Truth: Within weeks of his election he "changed his mind" and announced he would run for another term.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: On the two occasions where he spent a night in the tent city jail he claimed that there were no special security arrangements to protect him.

Truth: The Sheriff's Office Tactical Operations Unit (SWAT TEAM) was on-duty, on overtime, all night, guarding him from a nearby building.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He built the tent city jail because of overcrowding in the regular jails.

Truth: To insure there were enough inmates for the much publicized tent city jail he closed an entire floor of the First Avenue Jail.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio: He has saved the taxpayers millions of dollars.

Truth: He has cost the taxpayers millions of dollars in legal fees, lawsuits, attorneys fees, settlements, judgments, photographs of himself, videos of himself, and maintaining his personal public relations staff.

[Psyber]

I'm not taking the p*ss I honestly believe we all need a guy like this in charge of our respective prison systems. Saw a documentry abut him and he might be controversial but he gets results. Only problem over here is...nowhere hot enough to put the tents...wonder if the cold would have a similar effect.

http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModu ... heriff_Bio

Regards
JAS

As many on this site may predict, I'd vote for him!

That doesn't surprise me.

OK... If that is all true I wouldn't vote for him! What's the source I'd like to read it and evaluate it myself, as obviously not everybody in his county believes it if he keeps getting re-elected.

What I would vote for is a no tolerance approach to repeated criminal behaviour, and the public listing of repeat offenders.

[Wedgie]

OK... If that is all true I wouldn't vote for him! What's the source I'd like to read it and evaluate it myself, as obviously not everybody in his county believes it if he keeps getting re-elected.

What I would vote for is a no tolerance approach to repeated criminal behaviour, and the public listing of repeat offenders.

Yeah, I know you wouldn't and I know where you're coming from.

It was from http://www.arpaio.com, there's also quite a list of some his negative aspects on wikipedia.

[Leaping Lindner]

The law in Australia stinks. Struth go to Singapore and if you get caught dropping Chewing gum on the ground a $10000 fine. Do graffiti cop a fine and get the cane, drugs = death etc etc...

The problem is, is that the longer we go as a nation pussy footing around and handing out nancy sentences the more we will put up with scum of the earth getting away with it...


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Do you honestly think if the death penalty or life in prison was in place this would have prevented this crime?
You also forgot to mention that in Singapore its three months in jail if you are drunk in public.
With all the "faults" with the Australian Judical System I'll take living here over Singapore anyday.

[RoosterMarty]

Maybe like the one in Oz Wedgie....

Em City will sort 'em out.

[Psyber]

The law in Australia stinks. Struth go to Singapore and if you get caught dropping Chewing gum on the ground a $10000 fine. Do graffiti cop a fine and get the cane, drugs = death etc etc...

The problem is, is that the longer we go as a nation pussy footing around and handing out nancy sentences the more we will put up with scum of the earth getting away with it...


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Do you honestly think if the death penalty or life in prison was in place this would have prevented this crime? You also forgot to mention that in Singapore its three months in jail if you are drunk in public.
With all the "faults" with the Australian Judical System I'll take living here over Singapore anyday.

Last I heard you can still park your car in Saudi Arabia with the key in the ignition and it stays there. I am not suggesting we adopt Sharia Law, but fear of their being consequeces does work.

The problem here is that there are often no significant consequences and the thugs know it. I think public drunken-ness should be an offence and result in people being taken off the streets temporarily and fined when convicted, but I agree 3 months should be reserved for violent and aggressive recidivists who make the streets unsafe for others. Singapore is excessively rigid, but "let it rip" is unsafe for all, especially women and kids.

[magpie in the 80's]

another update to this story

A MAN has been remanded in custody over the Christmas Day cricket bashing that shocked Australia - as a man died after a separate festive season attack.

Mathew Roy McDonald, 21, of no fixed address, appeared in Geraldton Magistrates Court today charged with grievous bodily harm over the cricket bat attack on a West Australian beach.

He was remanded in custody until January 17 while he seeks legal advice.

[GWW]

I heard he gave himself in.

[Dirko]

The law in Australia stinks. Struth go to Singapore and if you get caught dropping Chewing gum on the ground a $10000 fine. Do graffiti cop a fine and get the cane, drugs = death etc etc...

The problem is, is that the longer we go as a nation pussy footing around and handing out nancy sentences the more we will put up with scum of the earth getting away with it...


...

Do you honestly think if the death penalty or life in prison was in place this would have prevented this crime?
You also forgot to mention that in Singapore its three months in jail if you are drunk in public.
With all the "faults" with the Australian Judical System I'll take living here over Singapore anyday.

LL, no it wouldn't have stopped the crime, nor does it stop murders in Singapore. What it does however is it ensures that a fair sentence is served out, not like here where you may get 15 years....
Sure the drunk in a public place is a bit outrageous, but hey if you can afford to get drunk in Singapore in the first place....
What I was alluding too, was that all too often the crime far out weighs the punishment given...