Paid maternity leave

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Do you support women getting 18 weeks paid maternity leave?

Yes, absolutely.
14
48%
Unsure - I'll wait to read more about the details.
6
21%
No, definitely not.
9
31%
 
Total votes : 29

Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby wycbloods » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:21 pm

Psyber wrote:
wycbloods wrote: Ok i must have missed that earlier statement :oops: .
Easy to do in a rapidly moving thread like this! :wink:


Yeah i know i must have been interrupted by work :twisted: .
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby devilsadvocate » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:34 pm

silicone skyline wrote:Much better than the baby bonus, which unemployed gits get for just pumping out a child and they just go and buy a plasma TV.
The government has been encouraging everyone to have kids, which has the bogans pumping them out and collecting their $5000 or whatever it is.
This idea will encourage children to be born in the right economic climate, with a higher percentage of responsible parenting.


Gotta agree with that point as a good arguement for paid maternity leave despite being against it in principle. The current bonus is in many ways counter productive due to the ongoing social issues it creates.

My arguement against is purely economic as a business owner should never be penalised for taking the risk of employing people - that alone is a big enough risk which should be rewarded. Your point above though SS is a good one.
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby wycbloods » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:52 pm

devilsadvocate wrote:
silicone skyline wrote:Much better than the baby bonus, which unemployed gits get for just pumping out a child and they just go and buy a plasma TV.
The government has been encouraging everyone to have kids, which has the bogans pumping them out and collecting their $5000 or whatever it is.
This idea will encourage children to be born in the right economic climate, with a higher percentage of responsible parenting.


Gotta agree with that point as a good arguement for paid maternity leave despite being against it in principle. The current bonus is in many ways counter productive due to the ongoing social issues it creates.

My arguement against is purely economic as a business owner should never be penalised for taking the risk of employing people - that alone is a big enough risk which should be rewarded. Your point above though SS is a good one.


Thats why the current government has now made the baby bonus payable only in installments and no longer in a lump sum as i received it in May. I think that itself will help some of the problems that it has caused.
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby bulldogproud » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:21 pm

Just having a thought: Generation Y and Z are quite a bit different to many of us older people. The average Y or Z only stays in a job for less than three years as it is. As such, why would employers be reluctant to employ young ladies? After all, the chances are that they would stay as long as a Generation Y or Z male.
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby Tassie Blues » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:10 am

bulldogproud wrote:Just having a thought: Generation Y and Z are quite a bit different to many of us older people. The average Y or Z only stays in a job for less than three years as it is. As such, why would employers be reluctant to employ young ladies? After all, the chances are that they would stay as long as a Generation Y or Z male.
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Very good point business will also be saving on long service leave
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby Psyber » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:22 pm

I started employing only part-time casuals from 1985 - usually women with older or adult children they were working to put through colleges or Uni. The higher rate was worth it because it meant in those days you didn't have to do a lot of paper work about sick leave and annual leave entitlements, and if somebody was sick one of the others came in and you just paid whoever did the work.
They sorted it out between themselves and told me what had happened when I got there.
It made life much simpler for me.
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:33 pm

A little of topic but most threads on here end up that way.

I am currently going through the process of employing two staff,one receptionist and a skilled production worker (CNC).

One of the reception applicants during her interview told me her and her husband were planning to take 6 months to travel Europe in 09.
Does she really think I am going to employ someone who in 6 or 8 months time is going to leave me for 6 months?

Also,perhaps they should start teaching at school what you should wear/say/do in job interviews. Wearing trackies and a hoodie while chewing gum and then answering a txt during the interview may not be the smartest thing to do.Yep,before you ask,he really did.
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby A Mum » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:46 pm

Booney wrote:A little of topic but most threads on here end up that way.

I am currently going through the process of employing two staff,one receptionist and a skilled production worker (CNC).

One of the reception applicants during her interview told me her and her husband were planning to take 6 months to travel Europe in 09.
Does she really think I am going to employ someone who in 6 or 8 months time is going to leave me for 6 months?

Also,perhaps they should start teaching at school what you should wear/say/do in job interviews. Wearing trackies and a hoodie while chewing gum and then answering a txt during the interview may not be the smartest thing to do.Yep,before you ask,he really did.


In keeping off topic!!

I agree. We were taught in school what to wear to an interview...etc, etc, etc. It is obviously not taught these days.

This time last year my son was finishing up year 12 and looking for employment by way of an apprenticeship or traineeship. He was called into a job agency place for a perspective job, and we (My husband and I) told him that he should wear a shirt and tie... he went out and bought nice pants, etc, etc....(totally out of his comfort zone in wearing this kind of stuff).... when we get to the job agency there are about 4 other people to be interviewed... my son was totally over dressed compared to the rest of them !!

What you're saying is right Booney... sneakers, tracksuits, chewing gum... no effort what-so-ever put into their appearance. I sat in the waiting room for him to come out from his interview and I was completely gobsmacked the whole time of what they were wearing coming in for interviews.
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby Q. » Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:51 pm

I would never tell a prospective employer that I was p*ssing off overseas in six months. Tell them what they WANT to hear.
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby Dutchy » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:03 pm

Booney wrote:A little of topic but most threads on here end up that way.

I am currently going through the process of employing two staff,one receptionist and a skilled production worker (CNC).

One of the reception applicants during her interview told me her and her husband were planning to take 6 months to travel Europe in 09.
Does she really think I am going to employ someone who in 6 or 8 months time is going to leave me for 6 months?

Also,perhaps they should start teaching at school what you should wear/say/do in job interviews. Wearing trackies and a hoodie while chewing gum and then answering a txt during the interview may not be the smartest thing to do.Yep,before you ask,he really did.


got to give them a tick for honesty up front though Boon....would have been much worse if she mentions it 3-4 weeks into the job

However if they were the right person for the job and are likely to return tot he role after travels I reckon it would still be worth looking at, you give them the flexibility they should reward you by being an engaged employee
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby Booney » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:10 pm

I must admit I did appreciate the honesty.
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby Q. » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:13 pm

She'd be pretty stoked to have a job waiting for her when she comes back.

I've decided to wait until my contract finishes before I go overseas, so the boss said he'd work on getting new tenders and hopefully a new contract for me when I come back (if I come back).

We are majorly digressing here :D
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby BIG SEXY » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:35 pm

my wife and i have 3 kids, all under 7, we recieved the plasma bonus for 2 kids and as any good parent should spent it on the biggest tv we could find.
ok, we didnt we used some of it to buy things required for a new baby and invested the rest for our childrens future. when we decided we wanted kids we started making provisions for this, we worked 7 days a week for 2 years, took very little holidays and squirreled away what money we could. anyone who decides they can afford kids hasnt done the sums properly IMHO however there are sacrifices to be made when starting a family and the rewards are worth it. after working our 2 years my wife had 8 weeks of holidays up her sleeve plus about 3 and a half weeks sick leave i had similar so cashed in 2 weeks when the child was born and took 2 weeks to help out with housework etc. my wife decided recently she would like to start working in the family business and is now doing 10-12 hours a week while my mum watches the kid/s that arent in school.

the point of my long disjointed ramble is i belive if you want kids, prepare for it, perhaps negotiate something with your employer then have them. dont just go and have a kid and expect the rest of the country and your employer to pay for it.
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Re: Paid maternity leave

Postby bulldogproud » Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:17 pm

Booney wrote:A little of topic but most threads on here end up that way.

I am currently going through the process of employing two staff,one receptionist and a skilled production worker (CNC).

One of the reception applicants during her interview told me her and her husband were planning to take 6 months to travel Europe in 09.
Does she really think I am going to employ someone who in 6 or 8 months time is going to leave me for 6 months?

Also,perhaps they should start teaching at school what you should wear/say/do in job interviews. Wearing trackies and a hoodie while chewing gum and then answering a txt during the interview may not be the smartest thing to do.Yep,before you ask,he really did.



Most schools do teach interview skills. As a Careers teacher, we are running a whole series of Mock Interviews for our Year 10's. We spend the previous six weeks getting them to write Letters of Application, prepare a Resume and provide them with oodles of information on how to prepare for and present at an interview. Btw, if anyone would be willing to assist on the evening of October 30 by being an interviewer, please feel free to message me.
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