Angry Anderson blames 'other cultures' for Aussie violence

[(S)aintbackline]

Some of the views here are a very sad indictment of Australian society ...

Agreed. Reading the sh!t posted in here, it's embarasing to be australian.

I do not agree with everything on here either but theres no need to be embarrassed to be Australian, thats why we live in a country with free speech, to give everyone the opportunity to voice their opinion, even if their opinion is not what some would call mainstream.

Free speech is an absolutely crucial aspect of our society and it's great that it is allowed.

However, there is no place in Australia for BLATANT racism as evident in this thread.

Mate where the Blatant Racism?

[devilsadvocate]

Mate where the Blatant Racism?

Didn't read all of the above.....

Who ever got rid of the "White Australian Policy" is to blame.

Multi-culturism is violence.

Too many cultures, Too many religions, Not enough "Understanding" of each other.

Bottom line = Too many IDIOTS.

I'm with you on this Ando....

For a start.

There are plenty of racist undertones in posts too.

[(S)aintbackline]

Mate where the Blatant Racism?

Didn't read all of the above.....

Who ever got rid of the "White Australian Policy" is to blame.

Multi-culturism is violence.

Too many cultures, Too many religions, Not enough "Understanding" of each other.

Bottom line = Too many IDIOTS.

I'm with you on this Ando....

For a start.

There are plenty of racist undertones in posts too.

I really dont think it was meant to be (and doesnt come across to me anyway) as a Racist statement, the statement basically says there isnt enough understanding between the different cultures and religions in Australia and its not Racist too say there is too many Cultures and Religions in the country.

[devilsadvocate]

Saying the white australia policy should have remained is racist. No two ways about it.

If you are for a policy that only allows people with white skin to live in Australia, you're a racist. It's pretty clear.

[(S)aintbackline]

Saying the white australia policy should have remained is racist. No two ways about it.

If you are for a policy that only allows people with white skin to live in Australia, you're a racist. It's pretty clear.

But if you look at the statement as a whole not just the bits you want to quote to make people appear to be racist you would see he is stating that Multi-culturism is violence because different cultures/religions dont understand each other and that if the white australian policy was still around we wouldnt have any Multi-cultural violence which would be right there wouldnt be any Multi Cultural Violence it would just be violence i suppose, so i dont think it was a Racist comment at all

[Rik E Boy]

Saying the white australia policy should have remained is racist. No two ways about it.

If you are for a policy that only allows people with white skin to live in Australia, you're a racist. It's pretty clear.

But if you look at the statement as a whole not just the bits you want to quote to make people appear to be racist you would see he is stating that Multi-culturism is violence because different cultures/religions dont understand each other and that if the white australian policy was still around we wouldnt have any Multi-cultural violence which would be right there wouldnt be any Multi Cultural Violence it would just be violence i suppose, so i dont think it was a Racist comment at all

LMAO no multicultural violence under the White Australia Policy. Ever heard of Lambing Flat?

regards,

REB

[(S)aintbackline]

Saying the white australia policy should have remained is racist. No two ways about it.

If you are for a policy that only allows people with white skin to live in Australia, you're a racist. It's pretty clear.

But if you look at the statement as a whole not just the bits you want to quote to make people appear to be racist you would see he is stating that Multi-culturism is violence because different cultures/religions dont understand each other and that if the white australian policy was still around we wouldnt have any Multi-cultural violence which would be right there wouldnt be any Multi Cultural Violence it would just be violence i suppose, so i dont think it was a Racist comment at all

LMAO no multicultural violence under the White Australia Policy. Ever heard of Lambing Flat?

regards,

REB

LOL ok then got me there

[devilsadvocate]

Saying the white australia policy should have remained is racist. No two ways about it.

If you are for a policy that only allows people with white skin to live in Australia, you're a racist. It's pretty clear.

But if you look at the statement as a whole not just the bits you want to quote to make people appear to be racist you would see he is stating that Multi-culturism is violence because different cultures/religions dont understand each other and that if the white australian policy was still around we wouldnt have any Multi-cultural violence which would be right there wouldnt be any Multi Cultural Violence it would just be violence i suppose, so i dont think it was a Racist comment at all

I did read the statement as a whole and all of it is racist.
Anyone condoning the white australia policy is racist. End of. The white australia policy prevented 'non-white' immigration to Australia. That's completely and utterly racist. There is no justification for it based around arguements about culture or religion. It was preventing people from immigrating to this country because of the colour of their skin. And that is bullshit.

Multi culturalism has many benefits and IMO the many benefits outweigh a few halfwits that turn to violence. You can't just make a blanket statement that different cultures don't understand each other, which created violence. there are plenty of different cultures around the world that get on perfectly well.

[(S)aintbackline]

Saying the white australia policy should have remained is racist. No two ways about it.

If you are for a policy that only allows people with white skin to live in Australia, you're a racist. It's pretty clear.

But if you look at the statement as a whole not just the bits you want to quote to make people appear to be racist you would see he is stating that Multi-culturism is violence because different cultures/religions dont understand each other and that if the white australian policy was still around we wouldnt have any Multi-cultural violence which would be right there wouldnt be any Multi Cultural Violence it would just be violence i suppose, so i dont think it was a Racist comment at all

I did read the statement as a whole and all of it is racist.
Anyone condoning the white australia policy is racist. End of. The white australia policy prevented 'non-white' immigration to Australia. That's completely and utterly racist. There is no justification for it based around arguements about culture or religion. It was preventing people from immigrating to this country because of the colour of their skin. And that is bullshit.

Multi culturalism has many benefits and IMO the many benefits outweigh a few halfwits that turn to violence. You can't just make a blanket statement that different cultures don't understand each other, which created violence. there are plenty of different cultures around the world that get on perfectly well.

look i was just stating what i got from that comment, obviously we have two very different views of what this comment was about, myself as i have stated do not think it was meant to be racist and you who obviously thinks it is meant to be racist and to go even further i would say that the MODS would have taken this thread down if it was deemed to be a Racist comment.

[devilsadvocate]

Fair enough then, play on

[Dog_ger]

My God.

Get a life People.

You have to get out more.

[Leaping Lindner]

My God.

Get a life People.

You have to get out more.

IRONY
i·ro·ny   /ˈaɪrəni, ˈaɪər-/ [ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]
–noun,plural-nies.
1.the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2.Literature.
a.a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b.(esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
3.Socratic irony.
4.dramatic irony.
5.an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6.the incongruity of this.
7.an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8.an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.

[fish]

My God.

Get a life People.

You have to get out more.

Dog_ger. Many people, myself included, are disgusted by racism in all it's guises and I applaud them for pointing it out and objecting to it when it appears on this forum.

[devilsadvocate]

My God.

Get a life People.

You have to get out more.

IRONY
i·ro·ny   /ˈaɪrəni, ˈaɪər-/ [ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]
–noun,plural-nies.
1.the use of words to convey a meaning that is the opposite of its literal meaning: the irony of her reply, “How nice!” when I said I had to work all weekend.
2.Literature.
a.a technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated.
b.(esp. in contemporary writing) a manner of organizing a work so as to give full expression to contradictory or complementary impulses, attitudes, etc., esp. as a means of indicating detachment from a subject, theme, or emotion.
3.Socratic irony.
4.dramatic irony.
5.an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
6.the incongruity of this.
7.an objectively sardonic style of speech or writing.
8.an objectively or humorously sardonic utterance, disposition, quality, etc.

LMAO. Absolutely brilliant.

[Barto]

An ill formed comment at best to put it mildly. Obviously Gary is unfamiliar with the history of the razor gangs that roamed the streets in the 1920s.

I heard him on the radio the other day talking about his views and I agree with you, he's looking at it misty eyed. I reckon the "punch up and beer afterwards" is a rose coloured glasses myth. One of his contemporaries, John Swan regaled the story of how he bashed a bloke so badly he still cant talk properly decades later.

He's not 100% wrong however, there is ethnic gang violence but you cant tell me it's a reflection of any cultural background. Idiots will group together based on common ground no matter what socio-economic group they're from.

[devilsadvocate]

Idiots will group together based on common ground no matter what socio-economic group they're from.

Those are the words I've been looking for!

Idiocy leads to violence. Race or culture is a poor excuse/label for it.

[Psyber]

I guess it is all really about tribalism, rather that race or culture.
Some people can tolerate, or even enjoy, interacting with those who are different, while some avoid it and withdraw into "us versus them" gangs.
So diversity offers us both growth and enrichment, and the potential for hostility and violence.

In the 1970s I read many studies of immigration written in the late 1960s - which probably are not on line - that pointed out that there were observable higher incidences of psychiatric disturbance and criminality among immigrant groups wherever they came from or went to.

These studies were not aimed at opposing immigration, but were about Transcultural Psychiatry. [IIRC a guy named "Yap" was on of the writers.]
Speculations to explain this incidence included the case that genuine stress accounted for some, that some paranoid individuals may have left their homelands to escape imagined persecution, and that some may leave their homeland to escape being charged for real criminal offences.

It is never simple, never all one thing or all the other.

[Strawb]

One of the most obvious reasons for the recent attacks on Indian students is they are travelling alone on public transport late at night to and from dodgy areas of Melbourne - and this happens to everyone black, white, yellow and green.
Rather than John Brumby holding a press conference and sending Shane Warne to India more would be achiveved by re-introducing guards on trains and conductors on trams. I realise re-employing people in jobs is not part of the laberals ecomonic rationalism plans which rule every decision made, but it is the one that makes the most sense.Which is why it will never happen.
The other strange thing about this situation is by doing this they would also cut back enormously on fare evasion and with the money raised pay the wages of the guards and conductors..... Let alone the money saved in cleaning up vandalism.

agreed there leaping but it is up to the government to act, But we dunno if they will.