Breaking news - Osama Bin Laden has been found Dead

[GWW]

^Fake

[Magpiespower]

This should silence even the most hardcore conspiracy theorist...

[Q.]

Excerpt from a Guy Rundle essay:


"Those empires, movements, parties that have a belief in themselves as an expression of humanity, of the good -- of a particular expression of a general aspiration -- exercise it by trying to reach towards the universal in their doings. Those whose project, and/or their faith in it, has collapsed, themselves collapse back to the particular, to paranoia, persecution and resentment.

To win, to triumph, is to defeat an enemy, and the most important part of that victory is to no longer be defined by them. Essential to that victory, is the extension of respect to the vanquished. That may involve mercy, but does not need to. But look at any victor, and you will find some mechanism by which that respect and recognition could be established. The Mongols slaughtered their enemies -- and then named their children after them. The Romans tortured rebels as public entertainment -- and then extended the Pax Romana to their followers.

Conversely, any victor that cannot manage such a gesture is in deep trouble, because they cannot free themselves from a fight they have already won. And if victory itself cannot free them, what will? Those forces caught in such a loop cannot get out of it, because their own identity is more strongly defined by the way their enemy regards them, than it is by the way they regard themselves. The inability to grant either mercy, or legal formalism, or respect, or to simply move on is an expression of a fatal lack of confidence at the core of the project, a lack of political being.

That, more than anything, is why the killing of Osama bin Laden, and the outpouring of emotion that followed it, is so strange and revealing. For it is the conduct of an empire that cannot believe in itself to such a degree, that any attempt to deal with its enemies from a position of self-respect cannot be countenanced. For the Obama administration it would be too risky, politically -- any residual desire they might have to prosecute their case according to international law cannot be acted on given the demands of the US public, and the commentariat that feeds it.

Nor can whole sections of the US public see any way to mark the death of bin Laden, save to continue reliving it in pseudo-triumphant discussion, empty imperial swagger. The same applies perforce to the right abroad, for whom the defeat and derangement of the US has been an experience of fundamental disarray. They can't see a way to talk about the US from a position of strength, because really, they can feel none.

That bin Laden was executed now seems to be the obvious truth about the mission. As an individual act by an imperial state, it's something I can't see any reason to be, per se, outraged about, since to do so would be to somehow suggest that there's a moral way to run a lethal drone-bombing war in a country whose sovereignty you've traduced for a decade."

[The Dark Knight]

This should silence even the most hardcore conspiracy theorist...

That is gold MP

[auto]

[Dogwatcher]

I've heard Burt Bacharach is reworking an old song and changing to "The Man Who Shot Osama Bin Laden".

[mickey]

I've heard Burt Bacharach is reworking an old song and changing to "The Man Who Shot Osama Bin Laden".

been done already

http://fiveaa.com.au/audio_blakey-s-son ... den_101712

[unknown source]

someone should have done his wife or daughter doing a check in with osama with em

[hottie]

When the photo was shown on 9 news earlier this week it reminded of the Kenny from South Park.

[Dogwatcher]

I've heard Burt Bacharach is reworking an old song and changing to "The Man Who Shot Osama Bin Laden".

been done already

http://fiveaa.com.au/audio_blakey-s-son ... den_101712

Friggin 'eck, I didn't even know that.

[Bully]

billions of dollars to eventually find out this fella was in a dirty room no bigger then some toilets, with a 34cm TV and grey hair.....hmmmm

and like i said...see how the crude oil price has dropped ALOT since the announce ment. was $98.00 US a barrel this morn

[A Mum]

billions of dollars to eventually find out this fella was in a dirty room no bigger then some toilets, with a 34cm TV and grey hair.....hmmmm

and like i said...see how the crude oil price has dropped ALOT since the announce ment. was $98.00 US a barrel this morn

In fear of sounding really dumb ... how much is it usually?

[Bully]

was at $120 US a barrell not to long ago. like last week

[Lightning McQueen]

10 years to find one man riding around on a horse. Amercia fk'd? Yeah!

They had to wait for him to order a pizza.

[Bully]

10 years to find one man riding around on a horse. Amercia fk'd? Yeah!

They had to wait for him to order a pizza.

and dying his beard

[mighty_tiger_79]

one of Bin Ladens sons got away and he seems the most radical of them, so I do expect very strong retaliation.

[Bully]

news reports state that pornography was found in Osamas room when he was killed. Please correct me if wrong but arent muslim or arabs rules state that if your caught or see another woman naked on TV or in real life other then your wife you must commit suicide?

[dedja]

a tad hypocritical if true ... like Catholic priests molesting little boys

[Bully]

not that i condole this at all but where in catholic rules does it say that?

Again i don't condole this at all but my point is thats one of the muslim rules

[therisingblues]

not that i condole this at all but where in catholic rules does it say that?

Again i don't condole this at all but my point is thats one of the muslim rules

I think some things don't need to be put into a rule book to be understood as bad.

Back to your original point: is that news fact? I'm just asking because it sounds scandalous enough to be made up. If it is indeed true then you have raised a very good point regarding hypocrisy.