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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2021 10:51 pm
by stan
The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:I think it's information we need to know, but I think hospitalisations and ICU admissions with relevant vaccine data is more important.

I agree, and I would be happy to get that information, and i'd find it useful - whereas now i just hear xx amount of daily cases and honestly just zone out.
Yeah I agree with you, we are going to get more cases. It's going to happen, it is happening and we cant just shut the state down each time. I thought most people would think like this but my word there are some bed wetters out there.

I also honestly think if the election wasn't so close the borders would be shut and we'd be in lockdown right now. The looming election is just forcing the government to look to move forward with this.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:20 am
by Booney
stan wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:I think it's information we need to know, but I think hospitalisations and ICU admissions with relevant vaccine data is more important.

I agree, and I would be happy to get that information, and i'd find it useful - whereas now i just hear xx amount of daily cases and honestly just zone out.
Yeah I agree with you, we are going to get more cases. It's going to happen, it is happening and we cant just shut the state down each time. I thought most people would think like this but my word there are some bed wetters out there.

I also honestly think if the election wasn't so close the borders would be shut and we'd be in lockdown right now. The looming election is just forcing the government to look to move forward with this.


They can't shut up shop now were over* the 90% double vaxed mark. ( Next week apparently )

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:32 am
by stan
Booney wrote:
stan wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:I think it's information we need to know, but I think hospitalisations and ICU admissions with relevant vaccine data is more important.

I agree, and I would be happy to get that information, and i'd find it useful - whereas now i just hear xx amount of daily cases and honestly just zone out.
Yeah I agree with you, we are going to get more cases. It's going to happen, it is happening and we cant just shut the state down each time. I thought most people would think like this but my word there are some bed wetters out there.

I also honestly think if the election wasn't so close the borders would be shut and we'd be in lockdown right now. The looming election is just forcing the government to look to move forward with this.


They can't shut up shop now were over* the 90% double vaxed mark. ( Next week apparently )
Mate we are sending half the state into quarantine. Honestly what did there modelling tell them?
Do they really have no idea what they are doing?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:40 am
by Booney
stan wrote:
Booney wrote:Mate we are sending half the state into quarantine. Honestly what did there modelling tell them?
Do they really have no idea what they are doing?


I understand why they're sending people into isolation, I don't agree with it, I reckon a negative after 3 days and off you go, but that's a hell of a lot different to locking the state down, that won't happen again.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:41 am
by Apachebulldog
Booney wrote:
stan wrote:
The Bedge wrote:
Booney wrote:I think it's information we need to know, but I think hospitalisations and ICU admissions with relevant vaccine data is more important.

I agree, and I would be happy to get that information, and i'd find it useful - whereas now i just hear xx amount of daily cases and honestly just zone out.
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Yeah I agree with you, we are going to get more cases. It's going to happen, it is happening and we cant just shut the state down each time. I thought most people would think like this but my word there are some bed wetters out there.

I also honestly think if the election wasn't so close the borders would be shut and we'd be in lockdown right now. The looming election is just forcing the government to look to move forward with this.


They can't shut up shop now were over* the 90% double vaxed mark. ( Next week apparently )


Agree with ya Stan and Booney.

The flip flopping over the last 21 months has been assinine.

The Panic Porn continues from the media.

Now they are pushing the SCARIANT out of Sth Africa from what i have read there have been thousands of cases over the last 4 weeks symptoms are headache sore throat runny nose for 3 to 5 days a mild FLU.

One death so far in Sth Africa but the person also had aids this all from the medical experts mouth.

Like you said BED WETTERS.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:38 am
by Pseudo
Pseudo wrote:Apparently a couple of higher degree students at Mawson Lakes UniSA have tested positive and have been spirited off to the medi-hotels.

Glad I don't work in that neck of the woods anymore.

Two buildings closed and being deep cleaned, but it hasn't appeared on SA Health's list of exposure sites. Hmmmm....

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:09 am
by Jimmy_041
I've been to two lunches this week
There is no doubt that the tide has turned on QR
People are putting the phone up to the code and making out they are doing it
I had lunch with 3 Sicktorians on Tuesday. They say people are avoiding it in Melbourne as well

There comes a time where people just get jack of incompetence and rebel

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:27 pm
by Jimmy_041
From the SA Health FB page

On the 5th day of Christmas Marshall gave to me:
5 under investigation,
4 high risk exposure sites,
3 vaccinations needed,
2 patients in hospital
and a Christmas in quarantine.
Thank you a truly magical gift for a state that has worked hard!

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:49 pm
by Jimmy_041
There are no deserts in the UK, so Pfizer/ Moderna had to change the script

https://twitter.com/thejuggernaut88/sta ... 99427?s=21

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1470 ... 29896?s=21

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:58 pm
by daysofourlives
So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:00 pm
by amber_fluid
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


That’s what I don’t understand.
Why wasn’t the dude quarantined until he got the results?

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:02 pm
by daysofourlives
amber_fluid wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


That’s what I don’t understand.
Why wasn’t the dude quarantined until he got the results?


Probably because no one has a fn clue what the rules are including SA Health

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:17 pm
by Jim05
amber_fluid wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


That’s what I don’t understand.
Why wasn’t the dude quarantined until he got the results?
Because the rules are isolate until you have a test. Once you are tested you are free to go and don’t need to await the result.
It was done that way to keep the flow of business people coming to the state, they can get off the plane and get tested straight away and then head to their meetings, conferences etc and then fly out often on the same day
No one would come to the state if they had to wait 6-12hrs for a test result when they only are here for a few hours.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:21 pm
by am Bays
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


Because the rapid antigen test is as accurate, compared to the PCR test, as the information in Apache's youtube links!

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:23 pm
by amber_fluid
Jim05 wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


That’s what I don’t understand.
Why wasn’t the dude quarantined until he got the results?
Because the rules are isolate until you have a test. Once you are tested you are free to go and don’t need to await the result.
It was done that way to keep the flow of business people coming to the state, they can get off the plane and get tested straight away and then head to their meetings, conferences etc and then fly out often on the same day
No one would come to the state if they had to wait 6-12hrs for a test result when they only are here for a few hours.


Yeah right!

That’s a shit sandwich if I’ve ever seen one.
Why bother even doing the test then?
By the time you get the results you’ve infected X amount of people already.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:32 pm
by Jim05
amber_fluid wrote:
Jim05 wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


That’s what I don’t understand.
Why wasn’t the dude quarantined until he got the results?
Because the rules are isolate until you have a test. Once you are tested you are free to go and don’t need to await the result.
It was done that way to keep the flow of business people coming to the state, they can get off the plane and get tested straight away and then head to their meetings, conferences etc and then fly out often on the same day
No one would come to the state if they had to wait 6-12hrs for a test result when they only are here for a few hours.


Yeah right!

That’s a shit sandwich if I’ve ever seen one.
Why bother even doing the test then?
By the time you get the results you’ve infected X amount of people already.
Because if you have come from NSW, VIC or the ACT where cases are high you would have needed to have had a negative test result no more than 72hrs before entering the state. This bloke has tested negative on that test and then positive on the arrivals test which means that there is only a 3 day window tops where you are infectious

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 4:23 pm
by Jimmy_041
Jim05 wrote:
amber_fluid wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


That’s what I don’t understand.
Why wasn’t the dude quarantined until he got the results?
Because the rules are isolate until you have a test. Once you are tested you are free to go and don’t need to await the result.
It was done that way to keep the flow of business people coming to the state, they can get off the plane and get tested straight away and then head to their meetings, conferences etc and then fly out often on the same day
No one would come to the state if they had to wait 6-12hrs for a test result when they only are here for a few hours.


I believe that the requirement to isolate until the arrival test proved negative changed over the weekend because the government were told all these punters were going to turn up this morning and miss the first day of the cricket because they had to isolate

So now, you arrive, have a test, and go have a fat time infecting everyone if you have it. Oh hang on, they're not allowed into a high risk area nor dance or drink standing up (thank %^$# for that)

Seriously; why should we take anything seriously if these effwits keep letting us down with stupid effing rules.

And, if you are not vaccinated, steer clear of the desert.

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Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:27 pm
by daysofourlives
am Bays wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


Because the rapid antigen test is as accurate, compared to the PCR test, as the information in Apache's youtube links!


The PCR test isnt accurate anyway but lets not go down that path.
It doesnt have to be as accurate, i believe its more likely to find you positive so whats wrong with that? If the antigen test finds you positive then its isolate until you have a PCR test and negative result is given. That would be too much common sense though.
No need for a PCR if youre negative. Would save the State a fortune, $200 vs $30 is roughly what im led to believe it costs.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:43 pm
by stan
daysofourlives wrote:
am Bays wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


Because the rapid antigen test is as accurate, compared to the PCR test, as the information in Apache's youtube links!


The PCR test isnt accurate anyway but lets not go down that path.
It doesnt have to be as accurate, i believe its more likely to find you positive so whats wrong with that? If the antigen test finds you positive then its isolate until you have a PCR test and negative result is given. That would be too much common sense though.
No need for a PCR if youre negative. Would save the State a fortune, $200 vs $30 is roughly what im led to believe it costs.
Seems pretty simple doesn't it. SA health need to find the hardest say of doing anything.

Re: Coronavirus (Covid19)

PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:18 pm
by am Bays
daysofourlives wrote:
am Bays wrote:
daysofourlives wrote:So why is a traveller from NSW out having tea at a restauraunt awaiting a covid test result after flying in?

Why the f dont we have the rapid antigen test at the airport when they get off the plane? Its like they want to half stop it getting in, much like getting half pregnant


Because the rapid antigen test is as accurate, compared to the PCR test, as the information in Apache's youtube links!


The PCR test isnt accurate anyway but lets not go down that path.
It doesnt have to be as accurate, i believe its more likely to find you positive so whats wrong with that? If the antigen test finds you positive then its isolate until you have a PCR test and negative result is given. That would be too much common sense though.
No need for a PCR if youre negative. Would save the State a fortune, $200 vs $30 is roughly what im led to believe it costs.


Because A lot of what you e believe with respect to COVID is wrong

The PCR test actually test if you have the virus and are far more sensitive especially in the early infective phase. Like all biomedical tests its not perfect and there is error associated with it. it has been demonstrated to be 99.5% accurate, Cleveland clinic reported a study on approximately 95000 people and over 100000 tests, 1954 positive responses with 49 false positives and 51 false negatives (0.05%) https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-021-01489-0

Rapid antigen test are designed to test if your body is reacting to a virus. So it only test if your body is responding. It is far less sensitive that a PCR test and is more likely to say you are negative to COVID when in fact you have it, are a symptomatic and are infective..