Australian Cattle --> Indonesia

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Re: Australian Cattle --> Indonesia

Postby Leaping Lindner » Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:40 pm

The same country responsible for the slaughter of 100,000 plus East Timorese between 1975 and 1999 treats animals to be slaughtered badly. Yeah. You could have knocked me down with a feather.
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Re: Australian Cattle --> Indonesia

Postby Sojourner » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:11 pm

It could be worth mentioning that several Indonesian Clerics have come out and condemned the practice stating that its not even remotely "halal" meat when killed in this manner.
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Re: Australian Cattle --> Indonesia

Postby JAS » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:23 pm

zipzap wrote:Completely disgusting and distressing story and glad it is provoking some quick action.

But what about the live export trade to the middle east? Did that stop after Richard Carleton filed almost exactly the same story (with Australian industry-provided slaughter box that was still shiny from not being used) several years ago?

I'm all for multiculturalism but why we kowtow to those practising methods of slaughter that are abhorrent to us (or would be if enough people actually understood what halal / dhabiha is all about) for fear of upsetting certain groups and trade interests sickens me.


Then you should include the Jewish animal slaughter as the methods are almost the same.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_an ... #Slaughter

Slaughter

Shechita is the ritual slaughter of mammals and birds according to Jewish law. Dhabiĥa is the method used to slaughter an animal as per Islamic tradition. Shechita requires that an animal be conscious and this is taken to mean the modern practice of electrical, gas, percussive stunning before slaughter is forbidden. All Muslim authorities also forbid the use of electrical, gas, percussive stunning.
[edit] Similarities

Both shechita and dhabiĥa involve cutting across the neck of the animal with a non-serrated blade in one clean attempt in order to sever the main blood vessels.[1][15]
Both require that the spinal cord be avoided during slaughter.[15][16]
Both require draining the blood of the animal.[15][17]
Any sane adult Jew who knows the proper technique may perform shechita.[18] Similarly, dhabiĥa can be performed by any "sane adult Muslim… by following the rules prescribed by Shariah".[19] All Islamic authorities, though, state that dhabiĥa can also be performed by Peoples of the Book (Jews and Christians).[15]


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Re: Australian Cattle --> Indonesia

Postby southee » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:35 pm

Farmy wrote:Humans are just animals, so there is no problem in torturing humans for public entertainment then. heh :)


I wish they would with some humans out there!!!
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Re: Australian Cattle --> Indonesia

Postby Q. » Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:11 pm

southee wrote:
Farmy wrote:Humans are just animals, so there is no problem in torturing humans for public entertainment then. heh :)


I wish they would with some humans out there!!!


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Re: Australian Cattle --> Indonesia

Postby White Line Fever » Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:54 pm

i started watching this just then i have been trying to avoid it and I can't watch it

It makes me sick

I get so angry at cruelty to animals & humans who can't defend themselves.

I appreciate we eat the meat but a bolt gun to head is quick & humane, the circle of life means we need to eat red meat.

But the other footage is just disgusting.
I'm so angry.
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Re: Australian Cattle --> Indonesia

Postby White Line Fever » Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:02 pm

http://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/anima ... ive-export

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