Vote of Confidence for Rob Gerard

[Magpiespower]

Glenn Milne's article in the Teletrash today stated that Gerard's tax woes were common knowledge in parlimentary circles as well as the Adelaide establishment. No real surprise there.

But the real villain of the piece is Costello for mine. For him to say he never saw any of the countless articles over the past two years is an out-and-out lie.

His department, along with just about every other government department, gets these articles first thing in the morning from Media Monitors about ten minutes up the road from Parliament House.

[Wedgie]

Who cares what he was alleged to do?
And who cares if he gets legal packages from the government to encourage employing South Australians?

With his settlement with the ATO he was cleared of ANY wrongdoing. FACT.

Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well in this country.

Its just a shame that the big loser out of this whole pathetic Labor Party witchunt was the Adelaide Zoo who received Mr Gerard's full sitting fees he was entitled to whilst being involved with the Reserve Bank.

If you've got an issue with successful people in this world have a go at the hundreds who have been proven guilty of wrongdoings and don't give a cent to any charities, sporting organisations, etc.

All the Labor Party need to do to win the next Federal election is concentrate on the Industrial Relations Laws, not hard even for that mob of rabble, I was going to vote for them but with this pathetic witch hunt there's no way I would go near them. Christ, you just have to look at their leader, if he can't manage his own weight how the hell could he manage the country?

PS Moved the topic as more stuff in here fits the Genral Discussion criteria more than SANFL talk.

[Magpiespower]

Look, Gerard got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and got a smack for it.

Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well in this country.

It's very un-Australian, too.

[stan]

All the Labor Party need to do to win the next Federal election is concentrate on the Industrial Relations Laws, not hard even for that mob of rabble, I was going to vote for them but with this pathetic witch hunt there's no way I would go near them. Christ, you just have to look at their leader, if he can't manage his own weight how the hell could he mange the country?

Thats pretty much why they went backwards at the last election. I mean come on, its not hard.....Australians arnt in favour of the new IR laws....hint hint nudge nudge.

I would also like to say, that if Mr. Gerard would like to say by a premises for Norwoods pokies, i would not be against it .

In all serious though. What Magpies power said should also be noted.

But the real villain of the piece is Costello for mine. For him to say he never saw any of the countless articles over the past two years is an out-and-out lie.

His department, along with just about every other government department, gets these articles first thing in the morning from Media Monitors about ten minutes up the road from Parliament House.

He would have had his media analysis people in his office within the first 2 - 3 minutes in which he arrived at his office. Then his PR person would have been there as well as others. What they would have done is to come up with a plan so that he would not be at fault and say i didnt know anything. Well Pete you really are a tool if you think people would by that.

[redandblack]

Wedgie, he might be a good North Adelaide benefactor, but there's no tall-poppy syndrome here. Read about his tax activities again. Then consider the only thing that has happened to him is that he resigned (as he should) from the Reserve Bank Board.

Any opposition would be derelict in its duty not to bring this up. He's been thrashed with a feather and you lot want him knighted.

Get real.

[Wedgie]

Wedgie, he might be a good North Adelaide benefactor, but there's no tall-poppy syndrome here. Read about his tax activities again. Then consider the only thing that has happened to him is that he resigned (as he should) from the Reserve Bank Board.

Any opposition would be derelict in its duty not to bring this up. He's been thrashed with a feather and you lot want him knighted.

Get real.

No probs redandblack, just explain to me what law he's broken, when he was charged and what penalty was applied.
Being a "North Adelaide benefactor" has absolutely nothing to do with my points. Nice straw clutching though!:wink:

Tall poppy syndrome at its best, someone needs to get real and its not me.

[redandblack]

Why his company was not charged is, of course, a question that many are pondering. Most people who commit far less transgressions of the Tax Act are in fact charged. I'm sure it's not because he is a "tall-poppy" and donates millions to the people who decide such matters.

Just read again the excerpts Borat posted.

As I said, the only punishment is that he personally decided to resign from the Reserve Bank Board. Perhaps you think tax avoiders should be on the Board.

[Wedgie]

Ahh so the only punishment that he's received for doing nothing wrong was that he's no longer on a board where his sitting fees were donated to the Zoo.
Bad move by the Labor party, the monkeys at the Zoo would be the only one's stupid enough to vote for them, now they've lost those votes!:lol:

So I take it from your silence to my questions that he's guilty of nothing, charged with nothing and has had no penatly applied.

Borat talks of allegations that happened years ago and weren't proven whilst Mr Gerard was cleared of any wrongdoing by the investigating department, tall poppy syndrome at its best still, good work!

[redandblack]

Unfortunately Wedgie, just sprouting slogans like "tall-poppy syndrome" doesn't impress much. Enjoy your world of playing with words to suit your prejudices.

Fortunately, while you might believe the nonsense you write, most people can see a tax avoider when it's obvious. Perhaps he just decided to pay tens of millions of dollars back to the Tax Office out of the goodness of his heart.

Even his most ardent supporters don't try to defend him about that.

Read Borat's post again. But of course you know better than every political and financial writer in Australia.

[Wedgie]

Unfortunately Wedgie, just sprouting slogans like "tall-poppy syndrome" doesn't impress much. Enjoy your world of playing with words to suit your prejudices.

Fortunately, while you might believe the nonsense you write, most people can see a tax avoider when it's obvious. Perhaps he just decided to pay tens of millions of dollars back to the Tax Office out of the goodness of his heart.

Even his most ardent supporters don't try to defend him about that.

Read Borat's post again. But of course you know better than every political and financial writer in Australia.

If you're not impressed about suffering from tall poppy syndrome then so be it. Perhaps its time for you to grow as a person, Im here to help you.
I'm not playing with any words r&b, my posts on this topic deal with FACTS, others deal with allegations proven wrong and innuendo.
You couldn't respond to my facts as you have NO facts to make your point.

No need to read Borat's posts again, the word "allegations" is quite clear, that's a fact too. Perhaps you should read it again.

[redandblack]

Well, Wedgie, it's a FACT that Rob Gerard's company paid back the Tax Office tens of millions of dollars to settle their claim that he was involved in a sham tax avoidance operation.

It's also a FACT that you think he's done nothing wrong. I think the saying is "Ignorance is bliss".

You live in a world of bliss. None of us want share it.

[Punk Rooster]

It's a witch hunt. The money he paid back, was due to a ruling that he couldn't claim on something. No different to you & me claiming for something that we believe is a legitimate deduction, yet after being audited, told that it's not & you have to repay that amount. Would that make us tax dodgers/avoiders or white collar criminals? I would think not.

[Wedgie]

You live in a world of bliss. None of us want share it.

You're right there champ, I'm always happy.
You should try it, and don't assume other people wouldn't want to be happy in this world!

[redandblack]

It's a witch hunt. The money he paid back, was due to a ruling that he couldn't claim on something. No different to you & me claiming for something that we believe is a legitimate deduction, yet after being audited, told that it's not & you have to repay that amount. Would that make us tax dodgers/avoiders or white collar criminals? I would think not.

LOL multiplied by a million@punkrooster

Thanks, Punky, that just about clinches it!!!!!!

redandblack now exits, stage left, laughing uncontrollably.

Goodnight.

[Wedgie]

redandblack now exits, stage left, laughing uncontrollably.

Goodnight.

Good idea champ at least you know when you've beaten, I hope you sleep factually and not wake up as you're only asleep allegedly tonight!

[Punk Rooster]

Glad to be of a therapeutic benefit to you.

[Magpiespower]

Just wondering what Gerard's philanthropy has to do with any of this?

[Rushby Hinds]

If he had been charged and found guilty he would not be able to be a director of a company anymore.

the SUGGESTION in the paper is that the ATO settled for $95 Million (OVER AND ABOVE THE AMOUNT OF TAX THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID) as a "thanks very much, you pay that and we wont charge you and you can still be a company director" payment.

This last point has many people up in arms, and questioning as to why the ATO didnt pursue the $$ to the highest court in the land.

[JK]

Without knowing exactly whats taken place here (although that doesn't normally stop many of us having an opinion lol), simply put, it's out-and-out un-Australian to automatically pay all your taxes without trying to minimalize them!!

Mr Gerard is a successful man and is always going to have his detractors ... I'm sure he just sat at home, never worked an hour in his life, never studied anything and just simply got lucky to be in that position!!

Be thankful that unlike other millionaires he's chosen to put some of his hard earned into clubs, competitions and businesses that benefit people we all probably know!!

[mick]

Without knowing exactly whats taken place here (although that doesn't normally stop many of us having an opinion lol), simply put, it's out-and-out un-Australian to automatically pay all your taxes without trying to minimalize them!!

Mr Gerard is a successful man and is always going to have his detractors ... I'm sure he just sat at home, never worked an hour in his life, never studied anything and just simply got lucky to be in that position!!

Be thankful that unlike other millionaires he's chosen to put some of his hard earned into clubs, competitions and businesses that benefit people we all probably know!!

Bravo