by HH3 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:09 pm
by Gozu » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:14 pm
Wedgie wrote:I disagree with you re murder, I think that all murderers despite their intentions have varying degrees of mental illness.
by tipper » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:40 pm
Gozu wrote:Wedgie wrote:I disagree with you re murder, I think that all murderers despite their intentions have varying degrees of mental illness.
I agree even if motivated to a degree by money you have to be mentally ill to some degree to murder someone.
I disagree there should be some sort of screening to remove mentally ill people from society. I think perhaps things might've gone a bit too far with the shutting down of mental institutions and pushing them back out into society though because that hasn't worked. It's a fine line.
Just catching the train the other day a guy who looked like an older uni professor type with big dark sunglasses and bright yellow socks pulled up to his knees came and sat right next to me at the station despite rows of empty seats, as in right up against my bag sitting next to me. I didn't think much of it just thought he was a bit weird. When the train arrived he quickly got up and went behind a wall and started brushing what was left of the hair on his head and then got on down the front, I sat down the back. For the whole bloody trip every 2 minutes or so the guy would stand up turn around and just stare right at me. The first couple of times I looked at him and he just kept staring but after that I tried my hardest to ignore him and just look out the window even though he kept doing it the whole journey probably 8-10 times in total. I seriously thought what if this lunatic has a knife in his bag or something?
by HH3 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:44 pm
by Booney » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:52 pm
HH3 wrote:No wonder blokes still aren't comfortable talking about their mental problems.
Maybe seek some treatment before they end up killing their kids.
by am Bays » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:06 pm
HH3 wrote:I 100% agree with your driver statement.
I had one f**kwit cutting in and out around me. Everyone was in the right lane for some reason, he shoots into the left to overtake, nearly rear ends a stationary bus.
Gave me a chuckle on the way home.
by Dogwatcher » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:48 pm
by tipper » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:49 pm
Booney wrote:HH3 wrote:No wonder blokes still aren't comfortable talking about their mental problems.
Maybe seek some treatment before they end up killing their kids.
Sadly it's not surprising mate. Blokes still make light of it, joke about it, think it's all fun and games to get a laugh in that macho change room / locker room way.
Part of society will never grow up, some will never show empathy. Maybe they should be "shipped off"?
by Booney » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:51 pm
tipper wrote:Booney wrote:HH3 wrote:No wonder blokes still aren't comfortable talking about their mental problems.
Maybe seek some treatment before they end up killing their kids.
Sadly it's not surprising mate. Blokes still make light of it, joke about it, think it's all fun and games to get a laugh in that macho change room / locker room way.
Part of society will never grow up, some will never show empathy. Maybe they should be "shipped off"?
sure, lets start a list. i volunteer to add Port supporters and cyclists to it too. between the bad drivers, Port supporters, mentally ill, cyclists and those lacking empathy we will all have to live in Tassie together, nice and cosy. have i missed anyone?
i think you two need to adjust your sarcasm filters
by bennymacca » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:02 pm
Wedgie wrote:I disagree with you re murder, I think that all murderers despite their intentions have varying degrees of mental illness.
I have no idea if its worth trying to weed people out, that's why I'm asking. Would it be worth taking a certain amount of people out of society if it saves the lives of some innocents?
Doubtful.
Would it be accepted?
No.
Would it make society a better place?
Possibly for some but not for others, would the trade off be worth it?
On a lighter note and more on topic if I could weed out the bad drivers in Adelaide then 95% of people currently on the road would be catching buses or walking!
by tipper » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:05 pm
by Alaska » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:08 pm
tipper wrote:Booney wrote:HH3 wrote:No wonder blokes still aren't comfortable talking about their mental problems.
Maybe seek some treatment before they end up killing their kids.
Sadly it's not surprising mate. Blokes still make light of it, joke about it, think it's all fun and games to get a laugh in that macho change room / locker room way.
Part of society will never grow up, some will never show empathy. Maybe they should be "shipped off"?
sure, lets start a list. i volunteer to add Port supporters and cyclists to it too. between the bad drivers, Port supporters, mentally ill, cyclists and those lacking empathy we will all have to live in Tassie together, nice and cosy. have i missed anyone?
i think you two need to adjust your sarcasm filters
by JK » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:24 pm
Gozu wrote:Wedgie wrote:I disagree with you re murder, I think that all murderers despite their intentions have varying degrees of mental illness.
I agree even if motivated to a degree by money you have to be mentally ill to some degree to murder someone.
by Booney » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:33 pm
JK wrote:Gozu wrote:Wedgie wrote:I disagree with you re murder, I think that all murderers despite their intentions have varying degrees of mental illness.
I agree even if motivated to a degree by money you have to be mentally ill to some degree to murder someone.
I'm not sure I'd agree with that .. I think some people would murder because they don't have a standard moral compass, and perhaps prioritise other things above safety of fellow man.
It's a fair question Wedgie asks though - Even if it's not possible or acceptable to remove people from the public, at least it's exploring any potential options to try and reduce instances of whats occurred in Lincoln.
Tough situation thats only going to get worse into the future with substance abuse induced psychotic illness.
by Wedgie » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:34 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by HH3 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:41 pm
Wedgie wrote:Can we move all the adult cyclists in lycra to one of those countries with land mines everywhere still?
by Q. » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:06 pm
Booney wrote:Simply, it would be impossible. While the family in Lincoln knew something was up, they knew he had some demons, they would never have seen this coming.
I've got two mates who battle depression, alcoholism, anxiety, self worth issues but neither of them, IMHO, of course, should just be removed from society ( where do you send them, anyway? ) just "in case" they do something.
I agree there is troubled waters ahead, we're only just seeing the impact of the latest hard drug, ice, on society, I think we're sometime from seeing the full impact of this on all people involved. How many kids are seeing this shit in action and are not yet young adults, how will they get along in the modern world with that upbringing?
by Booney » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:10 pm
by Wedgie » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:16 pm
Q. wrote:Booney wrote:Simply, it would be impossible. While the family in Lincoln knew something was up, they knew he had some demons, they would never have seen this coming.
I've got two mates who battle depression, alcoholism, anxiety, self worth issues but neither of them, IMHO, of course, should just be removed from society ( where do you send them, anyway? ) just "in case" they do something.
I agree there is troubled waters ahead, we're only just seeing the impact of the latest hard drug, ice, on society, I think we're sometime from seeing the full impact of this on all people involved. How many kids are seeing this shit in action and are not yet young adults, how will they get along in the modern world with that upbringing?
The homicide rate has declined over the last decade.
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by Q. » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:24 pm
Booney wrote:I'm more worried about ( and from what my wife is exposed to in early learning / child care ) what the impact of the current users is and will have upon the generations being raised by the current users.
There's an epidemic to come.
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