I need to know....

[cennals05]

Jesus Christ dude. You talking about Nicky winmar? Back in those days at Victoria park, it was black this and black that. That was the first time an aboriginal footballer stood up to racism. You seriously can't have a problem with it?

No, Im talking about a picture of Adam Goodes going around this week.

641659-adam-goodes.jpg

Fair enough, Winmar did it to make a statement. And it was very effective. But I dont see how its neccessary now. Isnt multiculturalism about looking PAST skin colour. The whole indeginous round seems racist as **** to me. All week they talk about which Aboriginal boys are good, yadda yadda. Shouldnt they talk about everybody, every week, and not single them out on race.

I know they're trying to do the right thing, but it all just feels condescending to me.

It was the 20 year anniversary of the Winmar incident this year, that is why the photo of Goodes was taken. There were also lots of other indigenous players photographed like that too.

And unless you are indigenous I would say you have no idea whether it is condescending or not. Once again white people trying to tell indigenous people how they should feel.

[The Sleeping Giant]

What cennals05 said. It was part of the indigenous round promotion. Talk about people jumping at shadows.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Jesus Christ dude. You talking about Nicky winmar? Back in those days at Victoria park, it was black this and black that. That was the first time an aboriginal footballer stood up to racism. You seriously can't have a problem with it?

No, Im talking about a picture of Adam Goodes going around this week.

641659-adam-goodes.jpg

Fair enough, Winmar did it to make a statement. And it was very effective. But I dont see how its neccessary now. Isnt multiculturalism about looking PAST skin colour. The whole indeginous round seems racist as **** to me. All week they talk about which Aboriginal boys are good, yadda yadda. Shouldnt they talk about everybody, every week, and not single them out on race.

I know they're trying to do the right thing, but it all just feels condescending to me.

Great Post.

Like to hear a comment from Andrew Demetriou & Eddy Mcguire.

What if say Abblett had done it to a crowd of Indeginous People.

Once again, you are so far of the mark, you might as well live on Pluto. Why can't obviously dumb as shit people be banned?

[Johno6]

Coz then we would have no mods left .......


*waits for PM from footy chick. Lol







I don't have problem at all with mods. Just being a smart arse per usual.

[Footy Chick]

If we banned all the dumb asses then johno wouldn't be able to post

[The Sleeping Giant]

I guess some of you didn't/wouldn't accept the invitation.

[Johno6]

If we banned all the dumb asses then johno wouldn't be able to post

You can't just re use my joke with my name

This Is why there are no funny female comedians.

[Footy Chick]

Let's face it.. you walked right into that one

[Johno6]

I was expecting a retort. Just with original material.

Wanna catch up over a shandy next weekend?

(Unless I get dropped)

[Footy Chick]

Yes. Even if it is just so I can smack you across the back of the head

[CENTURION]

Jesus Christ dude. You talking about Nicky winmar? Back in those days at Victoria park, it was black this and black that. That was the first time an aboriginal footballer stood up to racism. You seriously can't have a problem with it?

No, Im talking about a picture of Adam Goodes going around this week.

641659-adam-goodes.jpg

Fair enough, Winmar did it to make a statement. And it was very effective. But I dont see how its neccessary now. Isnt multiculturalism about looking PAST skin colour. The whole indeginous round seems racist as **** to me. All week they talk about which Aboriginal boys are good, yadda yadda. Shouldnt they talk about everybody, every week, and not single them out on race.

I know they're trying to do the right thing, but it all just feels condescending to me.

It was the 20 year anniversary of the Winmar incident this year, that is why the photo of Goodes was taken. There were also lots of other indigenous players photographed like that too.

And unless you are indigenous I would say you have no idea whether it is condescending or not. Once again white people trying to tell indigenous people how they should feel.

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[Psyber]

I'd like to know how calling anyone an "Ape " gets to be declared as unarguably or obviously racist.

The term has been used since around the 1920s to describe anyone who appears to have more muscle than brain, without reference to race.
It has appeared in American detective literature for years, and IIRC it came up in the TV series about Elliott Ness and his team - "The Untouchables".

However, that doesn't justify calling someone an "Ape", as abusiveness is wrong quite regardless of race.
It would be inappropriate to apply to Goodes as non-racist abuse anyway as he is clearly not stupid, and children should not be brought up to be reflexly abusive.

Other terms of abuse such as "Jungle bunny" (and, maybe, "monkey") can be seen as more clearly racist as they don't have the same history of use in another non-racial form of abuse.
I can see that "Ape" may be construed as an extension of these terms, but that interpretation is not consistent with its traditional usage.

[CENTURION]

FWIW, I have long thought that Barry Gibb has an ape-like appearance.

[Q.]

I'd like to know how calling anyone an "Ape " gets to be declared as unarguably or obviously racist.

The term has been used since around the 1920s to describe anyone who appears to have more muscle than brain, without reference to race.
It has appeared in American detective literature for years, and IIRC it came up in the TV series about Elliott Ness and his team - "The Untouchables".

However, that doesn't justify calling someone an "Ape", as abusiveness is wrong quite regardless of race.
It would be inappropriate to apply to Goodes as non-racist abuse anyway as he is clearly not stupid, and children should not be brought up to be reflexly abusive.

Other terms of abuse such as "Jungle bunny" (and, maybe, "monkey") can be seen as more clearly racist as they don't have the same history of use in another non-racial form of abuse.
I can see that "Ape" may be construed as an extension of these terms, but that interpretation is not consistent with its traditional usage.

It's racist because it implies inferiority due to race.

[CENTURION]

this is all speculation, no-one knows why she said it.

[The Sleeping Giant]

I'd like to know how calling anyone an "Ape " gets to be declared as unarguably or obviously racist.

The term has been used since around the 1920s to describe anyone who appears to have more muscle than brain, without reference to race.
It has appeared in American detective literature for years, and IIRC it came up in the TV series about Elliott Ness and his team - "The Untouchables".

However, that doesn't justify calling someone an "Ape", as abusiveness is wrong quite regardless of race.
It would be inappropriate to apply to Goodes as non-racist abuse anyway as he is clearly not stupid, and children should not be brought up to be reflexly abusive.

Other terms of abuse such as "Jungle bunny" (and, maybe, "monkey") can be seen as more clearly racist as they don't have the same history of use in another non-racial form of abuse.
I can see that "Ape" may be construed as an extension of these terms, but that interpretation is not consistent with its traditional usage.

Here is one of the problems Psyber. You obviously still think you are in the 1920s. Just because back then it wasn't deemed a racist term, doesn't mean it isn't now. Plus you had so many other words you could use back then. Gay didn't mean what it means now either.

[Squids]

http://news.stanford.edu/pr/2008/pr-eber-021308.html

not racist if you can't help it

[The Sleeping Giant]

Lol.

Doesn't mean you can scream it in someone's face.

[Squids]

Lol.

Doesn't mean you can scream it in someone's face.

Can't help it.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Not if your thick as shit like yourself. That's why people like you need educating.