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Re: I need to know....

Postby Squids » Sun May 26, 2013 6:05 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Not if your thick as shit like yourself. That's why people like you need educating.


Educate me then.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby stampy » Sun May 26, 2013 6:11 pm

absolutel huge beat up thanks to ch7 carrying on as if some person had hung over the fence and screamed at goodes that he was a black &%%$ or something worse, they just went on and on and on about it. when i heard what the girl had actually said i was dumbfounded that he had reacted the way he did.

it has been reported that the girl was taken to the police and her grandmother/mother or whoever she was with was not allowed to see her for almost 2 hours, if that is the truth that is just ******, she is 13 ffs. reading social mediums and listening to radio it is fair to say that the majority of us believe its a crock of shit and the way goodes carried on friday night was ridiculous
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Re: I need to know....

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun May 26, 2013 6:13 pm

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Re: I need to know....

Postby stampy » Sun May 26, 2013 6:15 pm

no need to be like that tsg, this is a forum and we all have an opinion, you seem to be the lone voice
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Psyber » Sun May 26, 2013 6:16 pm

Q, I'd dispute that the term "ape" does specifically imply "inferiority due to race".
It has always implied inferiority due to being muscle-bound and stupid, and is still used that way.

TSG, You can't really justify fostering excessive political correctness by interpreting a word which may have another, even dominant, meaning only in the way that suits the cause of drama and excessive political correctness. "Ape" is still used in literature in the traditional way with its traditional meaning - not just in the 1920s - I mentioned that just to demonstrate continuity of usage in literature.

I accept that the meaning of "gay" has been corrupted. That did not begin as abuse, but was adopted by the "gay" community who chose to adopt the word as their own as an alternative to the old abusive terms, or the more clinical and explicit term "homosexual". It is now only beginning to become a word of abuse, which means the "gay" movement may, in time, find another word to use for themselves.

"Black b*****d", or similar, would have been clear racial abuse if it had been used.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby CENTURION » Sun May 26, 2013 6:17 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:Lol.

Doesn't mean you can scream it in someone's face.

and that's it, if she had just been a normal 13 year old girl & shown some respect, this wouldn't be where it is now.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Psyber » Sun May 26, 2013 6:21 pm

CENTURION wrote:
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Lol.
Doesn't mean you can scream it in someone's face.
and that's it, if she had just been a normal 13 year old girl & shown some respect, this wouldn't be where it is now.
Agreed.
As I said in my first post no form of abuse is justifiable.
This girl should have been better brought up, and educated in civility, at home and at school.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby stampy » Sun May 26, 2013 6:21 pm

my kids have indigenous friends who have been at our house and they are lovely kids and are more than welcome so i dont consider myself racist, however it never ceases to amaze me how they promote stuff like adam goodes showing and point at his skin colour with pride, yet if he is referred to as a black anything, all these idiots start jumping up and down, does anyone get me?
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Re: I need to know....

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun May 26, 2013 6:24 pm

stampy wrote:no need to be like that tsg, this is a forum and we all have an opinion, you seem to be the lone voice


I understand all that stampy, but just because you or I don't find being called an ape offensive, doesn't mean an aboriginal won't.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun May 26, 2013 6:29 pm

Psyber wrote:Q, I'd disdpute that the term "ape" does specifically imply "inferiority due to race".
It has always implied inferiority due to being muscle-bound and stupid, and is still used that way.


You can dispute it all you want. If aboriginal people find it offensive, and they do, that's what defines it as offensive.
Psyber wrote:TSG, You can't really justify fostering excessive political correctness by interpreting a word which may have another, even dominant, meaning only in the way that suits the cause of drama and excessive political correctness. "Ape" is still used in literature in the traditional way with its traditional meaning - not just in the 1920s - I mentioned that just to demonstrate continuity of usage in literature.


Having worked in blue collar industries all my life, I can assure you, the term Ape directed at a black person is racist.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Squids » Sun May 26, 2013 6:42 pm

white fella = not racist
black fella = racist
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Q. » Sun May 26, 2013 6:43 pm

Squids wrote:white fella = not racist
black fella = racist



Something to do with the history of genocide and oppression perhaps.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Squids » Sun May 26, 2013 6:44 pm

Q. wrote:
Squids wrote:white fella = not racist
black fella = racist



Something to do with the history of genocide and oppression perhaps.


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Re: I need to know....

Postby whufc » Sun May 26, 2013 6:46 pm

Is the AFL celebrating Indiginous Round, they seem to be only celebrating Aboriginal People, there not the only Indiginous people in the AFL!
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Re: I need to know....

Postby stampy » Sun May 26, 2013 6:47 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
stampy wrote:no need to be like that tsg, this is a forum and we all have an opinion, you seem to be the lone voice


I understand all that stampy, but just because you or I don't find being called an ape offensive, doesn't mean an aboriginal won't.



you have a point there, i still think it has been overdone starting with goodes, hopefully it just burns itself out, there is a huge wave of resentment out there cos of different rules for different folks, it happens at my sons school, and gives him a bad impression, depending on your colour decides what you can and cant do a lot of the time, hence racial hatred is borne out of this crap
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Re: I need to know....

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun May 26, 2013 6:48 pm

Q. wrote:
Squids wrote:white fella = not racist
black fella = racist



Something to do with the history of genocide and oppression perhaps.


LOL. It's just comical. Almost like people are saying "what happened to my right to be racist?"
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Re: I need to know....

Postby stampy » Sun May 26, 2013 6:49 pm

Squids wrote:
Q. wrote:
Squids wrote:white fella = not racist
black fella = racist



Something to do with the history of genocide and oppression perhaps.


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Re: I need to know....

Postby Q. » Sun May 26, 2013 6:50 pm

whufc wrote:Is the AFL celebrating Indiginous Round, they seem to be only celebrating Aboriginal People, there not the only Indiginous people in the AFL!


I'm confused, who would be the other indigenous people not being celebrated?
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Re: I need to know....

Postby Q. » Sun May 26, 2013 6:52 pm

The Sleeping Giant wrote:
Q. wrote:
Squids wrote:white fella = not racist
black fella = racist



Something to do with the history of genocide and oppression perhaps.


LOL. It's just comical. Almost like people are saying "what happened to my right to be racist?"


It's post-modern racism - perpetuating the reverse racism myth.
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Re: I need to know....

Postby The Sleeping Giant » Sun May 26, 2013 6:52 pm

whufc wrote:Is the AFL celebrating Indiginous Round, they seem to be only celebrating Aboriginal People, there not the only Indiginous people in the AFL!


Indigenous Australians champ. Think you are waiting for Multicultural Round.
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