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heater31 wrote:

Failed Creation wrote:Does anyone remember the MATS Plan?

It would've been expensive, but it would have been well worth it, even if only 2/3 of it was put in place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Adelaide_Transport_Study

http://www.salife7.com.au/adelaide/places/historical/adelaide-might-have-beens

Probably would have solved some of our current traffic problems though.....

That's my point.

Only in the last 10 years have we started to implement parts (or modified sections) of that original plan. Now it's just a patchwork modification of a miniscule section of that plan.

Jim05 wrote:About time we got toll roads here, we are so far behind the rest of the country it isnt funny

Only way in which the state will be able to fund the South Road extension.

valleys07 wrote:

Jim05 wrote:About time we got toll roads here, we are so far behind the rest of the country it isnt funny

Only way in which the state will be able to fund the South Road extension.

I think most of the big roads should be.
The Southern and Northern expressways should of been toll roads from the start. Would be happy to pay the toll

Got no issue with toll roads if there are still alternatives

bennymacca wrote:Got no issue with toll roads if there are still alternatives

Will tolls create bottlenecks on the alternate route's?

Surely the stubborn nature of South Australian's will translate into reluctance to travel down this extension due to the tolls.

If it is priced correctly, no...

If it is going to cost me $1.50 each way for instance I would do it. If that turned into $3.50 or higher like in Sydney and Brisbane then I think you would see people clogging up the backstreets

Doubt it, too many people will be happy to fork out for the convenience.

I'd be happy to pay a toll to get South Rd upgraded - trying to get from the southern suburbs to Pt Wakefield Rd is a nightmare. But I can definitely see Adelaide drivers clogging up secondary routes in order to avoid the tollgate. When someone from Adelaide visits Melbourne, eight times out of ten they come back saying how great it is that SA has no toll roads. (These are the same sort of people who used to come back with a box of Krispy Kreme and a verbal orgasm that lasted until the contents of said box were eaten.)

fisho mcspaz wrote:I'd be happy to pay a toll to get South Rd upgraded - trying to get from the southern suburbs to Pt Wakefield Rd is a nightmare. But I can definitely see Adelaide drivers clogging up secondary routes in order to avoid the tollgate. When someone from Adelaide visits Melbourne, eight times out of ten they come back saying how great it is that SA has no toll roads. (These are the same sort of people who used to come back with a box of Krispy Kreme and a verbal orgasm that lasted until the contents of said box were eaten.)

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As someone who uses this road daily id be happy to pay $3.50 each way from Wingfield all the way through to Flinders Uni

Yep, the extra time at home is definitely worth $7 to me (if i needed to use it)

might be like WA where it is just a toll on commercial vehicles

Footy Chick wrote:Yep, the extra time at home is definitely worth $7 to me (if i needed to use it)

There is the key. Sporadic users of the extension would be happy to pay it. It's the regular users where opinion would be divided.

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:might be like WA where it is just a toll on commercial vehicles

The article above specifically mentions ruling out "commuter" tolls (as opposed to tolls in general) so you could be on the money here.

bennymacca wrote:

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:might be like WA where it is just a toll on commercial vehicles

The article above specifically mentions ruling out "commuter" tolls (as opposed to tolls in general) so you could be on the money here.

Disagree with that, commuters should definately pay for the privelidge

Jim05 wrote:

bennymacca wrote:

mighty_tiger_79 wrote:might be like WA where it is just a toll on commercial vehicles

The article above specifically mentions ruling out "commuter" tolls (as opposed to tolls in general) so you could be on the money here.

Disagree with that, commuters should definately pay for the privelidge

Whether they should and what the article says are different things

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenger ... 7360542266

16 story building to be built in 13 days .

Watched a doco on this on discovery channel. They build like 70 of these in China a month because of the demand.
all floors/walls etc built offsite and sent to site and just pieced together

Failed Creation wrote:Does anyone remember the MATS Plan?

It would've been expensive, but it would have been well worth it, even if only 2/3 of it was put in place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Adelaide_Transport_Study

http://www.salife7.com.au/adelaide/places/historical/adelaide-might-have-beens

The MATS plan was canned because of , you guessed it , the adelaide city council did not want freeways laid through the suburbs and for it to create "slums" like Los Angeles . Someone with their wisdom thought this would happen if the MATS plans went ahead, along with cost

Jim05 wrote:

fisho mcspaz wrote:I'd be happy to pay a toll to get South Rd upgraded - trying to get from the southern suburbs to Pt Wakefield Rd is a nightmare. But I can definitely see Adelaide drivers clogging up secondary routes in order to avoid the tollgate. When someone from Adelaide visits Melbourne, eight times out of ten they come back saying how great it is that SA has no toll roads. (These are the same sort of people who used to come back with a box of Krispy Kreme and a verbal orgasm that lasted until the contents of said box were eaten.)

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As someone who uses this road daily id be happy to pay $3.50 each way from Wingfield all the way through to Flinders Uni

Pay a toll, drive at a constant speed, uses less fuel. Tax dollars DO NOT pay for this as its privately funded hence the "toll". Less fuel, not as much tax paid in fuel you would put in if using normal roads. Most people say "why should i have to pay rego and i pay too much in fuel already which is enough taxes. They dont realise that the "toll" is to pay to use this road because its NOT funded by the tax payer.
Use normal roads, sit in traffic stop starting , uses more fuel, you pay more fuel tax

I use toll road everyday in QLD , spend more time with family and pay LESS fuel

Can you claim tolls in your tax return?

Footy Chick wrote:Can you claim tolls in your tax return?

Id suggest only if you were a tradie etc...