Whats better a MCFeast or Whopper?

[Psyber]

So PETA are advocating the eradication of cows? If we don't eat them, they still fart. Bloody hippy do-good wankers. [/Bob Francis].

PETA haven't actually said anything about what happens to livestock animals after they become redundant in favour of Synthe-Meat [TM] with wonderful preservatives, flavourings, and colouring materials, but other green mutterings are full of comments about feeding livestock grain etc. that could be given to people in starving countries, so I assume they would want them killed rather than just turned loose and left to go feral and continue farting.

I suspect they haven't actually thought that far ahead. It is the fight for POWER that counts not the sensibility of the outcome.

[Dirko]

mmmmm PETA Advocate burgers....

Piss off greeny wankers...

Give me COW !!

[Pseudo]

So PETA are advocating the eradication of cows? If we don't eat them, they still fart. Bloody hippy do-good wankers. [/Bob Francis].

Slicing them into steaks usually stops the farting.

[therisingblues]

Even though I love the taste of beef, keeping as many cows on the planet like we have now is very damaging for the environment. Off the top of my head:

*The erosion of precious Australian top soil.
*The incredible amount of resources required to keep a cow alive.
*New diseases emerging as a result of practices required to keep large populations of cows alive.
*Damage caused to surrounding environments (urban, rural and natural) as a result of the above practices.
*Destruction of virgin forests to make more grazing areas. (This is a biggie!)

I have never heard of PETA, and as I said I love the taste of beef, but to deny there are consequences of keeping all these cows is to stick your head in the sand. I have read some views suggesting pigs would be far less damaging to the environment, but I have also read that pigs are actually more intelligent than dogs, so from a humane point of view it is probably more cruel to slaughter smart animals than dumb ones.

I personally think that we should all be eating Kangaroos. It is an animal that can survive in just about any environment, does very little damage to the environment and costs sweet FA to keep one alive. It is also the healthiest cut of meat in the world (low fat, low cholesterol).
I don't think they fart much either.

[Strawb]

If a vegetarian only eats vegetables what does a humanitarian eat?

[smac]

So PETA are advocating the eradication of cows? If we don't eat them, they still fart. Bloody hippy do-good wankers. [/Bob Francis].

Slicing them into steaks usually stops the farting.

From the cows, at least.

[JAS]

Here ya go Theri...People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals http://www.peta.org/ Their most well known supporters are/were probably Paul and Linda McCartney.

I regularly get leaflets landing on the door mat and whilst I agree with some of there stuff such as doing away with the need for the cruel animal testing of cosmetics etc. I think they can be a bit extreme at times. Also according to the literature I get (not by request btw) they only want you to become a veggie as a starting point...their ultimate aim is to convert people to veganism. I did try a veggie diet for a few years...it was ok but lets face it humans are omniverous so give me a rare steak and fries any day

Regards
JAS

[Psyber]

Even though I love the taste of beef, keeping as many cows on the planet like we have now is very damaging for the environment. Off the top of my head:
*The erosion of precious Australian top soil.
*The incredible amount of resources required to keep a cow alive.
*New diseases emerging as a result of practices required to keep large populations of cows alive.
*Damage caused to surrounding environments (urban, rural and natural) as a result of the above practices.
*Destruction of virgin forests to make more grazing areas. (This is a biggie!)

Apart from eating Kangaroo, which is a bit dry and gamey for my taste, there are other solutions:
* Emu is tasty, and we may be able to eat softer footed camelids like Llama etc. but I really like lamb and Mutton which is hard to get.
* The resources are only a problem because of human overpopulation - even in Australia, which is already overpopulated.
* Those feeding practices were not necessary - mixing animal protein into food for a herbivore was someone just making a quick buck, and stupid authorities letting them.
* Cities damage the environment more than rural activity - and they are built on the best farming land, which is crazy!
* Human overpopulation and city expansion drives the pressure for new grazing lands.**

**I vote we start new better planned cities in the deserts and gradually demolish the old ones to free up good farming land rather than push farming into marginal country.

[therisingblues]

Thanks JAS. I may be in the same boat as you, in that I probably agree with some of their stuff.
Psyber, I have tasted Emu. Maybe I got a bad cut but it came from an Indian doctor who passed it on to my Japanese family. Strewth it tasted like crap! We ended up giving it to the dog! I have always loved 'roo though. Perhaps I should try some Emu next time I am in Oz, I might get a better sample.
Resources may be a consequence of overpopulation, but it is probably easier to develop a more manageable subsistence programme than go on a huge cull.
Whatever practices are economically viable seems to be the criteria for what is necessary. There were stuff ups in the past, not just by mixing animal protein in with feed, but also slush farming and whatever other fix they come up with for keeping so many cows alive. I agree though, that to a mind unmotivated by greed the methods employed were unecessary, but then greed is responsible for the majority of the world's ills at the moment.
Cities are bad for the environment, but rural activity is expanding at a greater rate, and I agree with your second last point. But the reality is that we have this amount of people on Earth and it just isn't viable to continue with the wasteful practices of the past. As much as I love beef, I have to admit that keeping as much cattle as we do is depriving our planet of precious resources that should be used more effectively. For as long as we are overpopulated, we are going to need to share a little bit better, or kill off the have nots (quickly in war or slowly by apathy) so that we can maintain our own luxuries..... there's that greed again.
Cities in deserts sounds like a good theory, I'll need to see your blueprints to understand if it will all work or not.

[RoosterMarty]

Maccas needs to bring back the Chilli Quarter Pounder. I can't believe they got rid of that.

[Dirko]

I prefer PETAP...

People of ethical treatment of all plants...

FFS..Carrots and Lettuce have feelings...don't see any greenies saying "protect the capsicum...."

Any one think of the poor tomato...enjoying the sun...some cruel twisted evil farmer plucks him
from the groins of the mother plant...

Get off my whopper...

[heater31]

I prefer PETAP...

People of ethical treatment of all plants...

FFS..Carrots and Lettuce have feelings...don't see any greenies saying "protect the capsicum...."

Any one think of the poor tomato...enjoying the sun...some cruel twisted evil farmer plucks him
from the groins of the mother plant...

Get off my whopper...

want to start a group up Jabber? was told in a yr 10 science class and shown a video of an experiment of lining up two identical plants and some random destroyed one of them. the other was hooked up to some instrument (for argument's sake lets call it a feeling meter ) the unharmed plant absoultely shat itself when the offender walked near by whilst showed nothing for anyone who didn't touch it.

[RustyCage]

I prefer PETAP...

People of ethical treatment of all plants...

FFS..Carrots and Lettuce have feelings...don't see any greenies saying "protect the capsicum...."

Any one think of the poor tomato...enjoying the sun...some cruel twisted evil farmer plucks him
from the groins of the mother plant...

Get off my whopper...

want to start a group up Jabber? was told in a yr 10 science class and shown a video of an experiment of lining up two identical plants and some random destroyed one of them. the other was hooked up to some instrument (for argument's sake lets call it a feeling meter ) the unharmed plant absoultely shat itself when the offender walked near by whilst showed nothing for anyone who didn't touch it.

Shit! Not only do plants have feelings, but they have eyes too

[Pseudo]

want to start a group up Jabber? was told in a yr 10 science class and shown a video of an experiment of lining up two identical plants and some random destroyed one of them. the other was hooked up to some instrument (for argument's sake lets call it a feeling meter ) the unharmed plant absoultely shat itself when the offender walked near by whilst showed nothing for anyone who didn't touch it.

You sure it wasn't an e-meter? Sounds to me like the church of $cientology has infiltrated your science curriculum.

[heater31]

want to start a group up Jabber? was told in a yr 10 science class and shown a video of an experiment of lining up two identical plants and some random destroyed one of them. the other was hooked up to some instrument (for argument's sake lets call it a feeling meter ) the unharmed plant absoultely shat itself when the offender walked near by whilst showed nothing for anyone who didn't touch it.

You sure it wasn't an e-meter? Sounds to me like the church of $cientology has infiltrated your science curriculum.

no here is someone else with a similar account

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/296123

I remember something in a science book that we discussed in high school. Scientists put two plants next to each other from the time they were both planted as seeds, so the "grew up" together. Someone came in and mutilated one of the plants. The other plant got hooked up to a meter. People came and went and everything was normal, but when the person who mutilated the other plant came in, the meter went crazy. There must be something there!

[Golo#46]

Saw this on a t-shirt:
People for the Eating of Tasty Animals!!!!

If those other PETA w@nker hippies tried to force me to stop eating animals...
Their life expectancy would drop dramatically.

[Strawb]

whats next with peta we are not allowed to eat pussy

[zipzap]

whats next with peta we are not allowed to eat pussy

[Punk Rooster]

it's quite simple- we were meant to eat meat.
we were not meant to consume dairy products, nor any processed foods in general.
we get all our dietary goodness from nuts, fruits, vegetables & meat.
we wonder why our country is in an obesity epidemic- it's due to long-term ingestion of processed foods.
The chip companies tell us our kids need a packet of chips for recess, the biscuit companies tell us we need a few biscuits with our coffees, etc....
This is all done in the name of shareholder profits- the irony being, it's the CEO who gets the obscene golden hand-shake.
We will lose this battle as long as until natural foods are more profitable than processed foods.

I have jumped aboard the Kangaroo bandwagon (sorry Dutchy, that's NOT North Melbourne...)- high in protein, no fat, & it is an aniMAL that needs some population maintenace.

[Pseudo]

I have jumped aboard the Kangaroo bandwagon (sorry Dutchy, that's NOT North Melbourne...)- high in protein, no fat, & it is an aniMAL that needs some population maintenace.

...and, most importantly, it's DELICIOUS!