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Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:27 pm
by Dogwatcher
MW wrote:Boos started off being based on the fact the bloke is a pillock who milks frees


And yet...the boos didn't start until he pointed at a girl who used what he considered a racist term to abuse him.
Selwood never copped boos like that for milking frees. Still doesn't.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:28 pm
by MW
The boos started well before the pointing the finger thing, Hawks supporters had been booing him for years beforehand

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:33 pm
by HH3
The incident with the girl happened in 2013.

The booing got the media attention in 2015.

The story about the girl just kept getting dragged up to support the imaginary "everyone booing is a racist" line.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:34 pm
by HH3
Notice how the same people that defended the booing are the ones standing up saying the meme was racist.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:38 pm
by Booney
Dogwatcher wrote:
MW wrote:Boos started off being based on the fact the bloke is a pillock who milks frees


And yet...the boos didn't start until he pointed at a girl who used what he considered a racist term to abuse him.
Selwood never copped boos like that for milking frees. Still doesn't.


Come sit next to me at a Port/Cats game, or, interview those around me at the semi-final MCG, 2013. ;)

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:39 pm
by Booney
HH3 wrote:
The incident with the girl happened in 2013.

The booing got the media attention in 2015.


The story about the girl just kept getting dragged up to support the imaginary "everyone booing is a racist" line.


Well that **** up a couple of theories.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:39 pm
by MW
HH3 wrote:Notice how the same people that defended the booing are the ones standing up saying the meme was racist.


It is quite feasible to think the boos were not racist and the meme was

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:40 pm
by Booney
MW wrote:Boos started off being based on the fact the bloke is a pillock who milks frees
Boos turned into a mob mentally for people doing it for laughs
Boos were never racist although no doubt some used it as an excuse to boo for no other reason
The meme was one of the most racist things I have seen on social media


On fire mate. Nailed the gorilla/kid/zoo thing too.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:42 pm
by MW
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:Boos started off being based on the fact the bloke is a pillock who milks frees
Boos turned into a mob mentally for people doing it for laughs
Boos were never racist although no doubt some used it as an excuse to boo for no other reason
The meme was one of the most racist things I have seen on social media


On fire mate. Nailed the gorilla/kid/zoo thing too.


should quit while I'm ahead hey :lol:

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:43 pm
by Dogwatcher
HH3 wrote:The incident with the girl happened in 2013.

The booing got the media attention in 2015.

The story about the girl just kept getting dragged up to support the imaginary "everyone booing is a racist" line.



The booing began after the incident and continued to grow as the issue rumbled along, fed by the media and those who "didn't want to be told what to do". It actually died off before being amped up by those who disagreed with his A of Y award in 2014.
The milking free kicks theory only started after it was suggested to people that some of those booing, even possibly them, might have been racist for booing a man because he educated us that the word gorilla has racist connotations.

I didn't subscribe to the "everyone booing is a racist" line. I believed that many of those booing were allowing the racists to hide amongst them, using pathetic mob mentality to mask their own intent.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:44 pm
by Dogwatcher
Booney wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:
MW wrote:Boos started off being based on the fact the bloke is a pillock who milks frees


And yet...the boos didn't start until he pointed at a girl who used what he considered a racist term to abuse him.
Selwood never copped boos like that for milking frees. Still doesn't.


Come sit next to me at a Port/Cats game, or, interview those around me at the semi-final MCG, 2013. ;)


Week after week with ongoing intensity? Nah.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:50 pm
by HH3
The intensity escalated because spuds in the media pushed the issue, and reported on it every minute of the day to sell their wares.

The media promoted it so much that it did reach fever pitch, and nearly broke a man. The media doesn't give a f**k about Adam Goodes. The media needed something to write about, since everything outside of the actual game in AFL is boring as batshit. They really have nothing to talk about, but have 24 hour channels and 50 shows reported the same injury reports.

I can pinpoint when I started thinking Adam Goodes was a f**kwit. It was when he slid knees first into Jacob Sturgen. Im not even a Port supporter, but that was one of the most gutless things I've seen on the footy field.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:51 pm
by Booney
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:
MW wrote:Boos started off being based on the fact the bloke is a pillock who milks frees
Boos turned into a mob mentally for people doing it for laughs
Boos were never racist although no doubt some used it as an excuse to boo for no other reason
The meme was one of the most racist things I have seen on social media


On fire mate. Nailed the gorilla/kid/zoo thing too.


should quit while I'm ahead hey :lol:


Never said you were "ahead". ;)

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:53 pm
by The Bedge
Dogwatcher wrote:It actually died off before being amped up by those who disagreed with his A of Y award in 2014.

What really annoyed me the most about this is I reckon 4/5 people who were slagging and hating on his AOTY speech and his reference to "invasion day", had NOT actually listened or heard the speech in it's entirety.. they just read bits and pieces or were influenced by others comments and opinions and jumped on board with it..

Like a pack of sheep getting on board because it was the in thing..

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:56 pm
by Wedgie
Racists

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:57 pm
by Booney
Zartan wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:It actually died off before being amped up by those who disagreed with his A of Y award in 2014.

What really annoyed me the most about this is I reckon 4/5 people who were slagging and hating on his AOTY speech and his reference to "invasion day", had NOT actually listened or heard the speech in it's entirety.. they just read bits and pieces or were influenced by others comments and opinions and jumped on board with it..

Like a pack of sheep getting on board because it was the in thing..


Thing is, you choose to be confrontational and challenge the average Joe's thinking and some of them will be confrontational because they aren't equipped to think. ;)

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 2:58 pm
by Dogwatcher
The thing is, so much of the hatred directed towards Goodes was that he was a "sook".
And, yet, we still have people willing to create memes about him. People are still willing to verbally bash him in threads like this. Still make jokes about how any booing of a footballer at a game must be racist. Seems like a three-year long sook to me.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:00 pm
by Dogwatcher
Booney wrote:
Zartan wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:It actually died off before being amped up by those who disagreed with his A of Y award in 2014.

What really annoyed me the most about this is I reckon 4/5 people who were slagging and hating on his AOTY speech and his reference to "invasion day", had NOT actually listened or heard the speech in it's entirety.. they just read bits and pieces or were influenced by others comments and opinions and jumped on board with it..

Like a pack of sheep getting on board because it was the in thing..


Thing is, you choose to be confrontational and challenge the average Joe's thinking and some of them will be confrontational because they aren't equipped to think. ;)


I think it's more than that. At heart, most of us want to think we're good people and most of us are. To be told we're racist, or that there are racist motivations behind people the actions of people who we view as equals, puts into question our own values and ethics, and it's uncomfortable. It might even hurt. We don't want to believe that we are that person. So we defend and justify. Then, in 20 years, many of us will look back and think, "what the hell were we thinking?" It happens to all of us, on one topic or another, at some point in our lives.

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:01 pm
by HH3
Wedgie wrote:Racists


Thats the pot calling the kettle.........you know....

Re: Things that make you sad.

PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:04 pm
by Wedgie
HH3 wrote:
Wedgie wrote:Racists


Thats the pot calling the kettle.........you know....

I wasn't calling anyone racists, it was just in reply to the topic, they make me sad.
Woooooosh again!