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Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:19 pm
by Dog_ger
Annual water bill...?

How do I compare..?

$355.35

I don't drink it. I only wash in it. But my dog drinks it... :lol:

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:29 pm
by Psyber
"Water, service charge, and drainage fee" about $67 per qtr - $268 pa - over here in VIC.. [$198 for the water alone.]
Mind you we are on a Septic Tank - no sewerage available.

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:51 pm
by Dog_ger
We have a Save the River Murray Levy here.

$8.20

We failed in saving the Murray. But the Levy still applies...? :shock: :oops: :lol:

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:52 pm
by JAS
Dog_ger does it vary depending on the value of the property over there and the council district you live in ?

Here I'm in the lowest property tax band and my water/waste combined is the equivilent of 522$AU p.a. and for someone in the highest band it would be 1,567$AU.

Regards
JAS

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:53 pm
by Dog_ger
I believe so JAS.

But someone will have to confirm.... :lol:

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:55 pm
by Dog_ger
We get 1/4ly bills here also.

Supply charges etc...

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:56 pm
by JAS
Dog_ger wrote:I believe so JAS.

But someone will have to confirm.... :lol:


Thanks for that.

Should probably have added that the price is regardless of how much I use.

Regards
JAS

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:57 pm
by Dog_ger
I never thought of it that way. You have opened my eyes a little.

It adds a lot to the annual bill... :shock:

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:59 pm
by Dog_ger
There must be many people like me that only take into account the current bill and don't stop to

work out the current annual fee towards water.... :shock: :shock:

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:05 pm
by Psyber
Our water services are here are use related, like gas and electricity. All these are privatised in Victoria.
Council/Shire rates are property value related regardless of services used, because they are a local tax not a private service.

I remember that in Adelaide years ago the old state run E&WS [Engineering & Water Supply] system was property value linked and you had a water use allocation based on what you paid, whether you used it or not - another form of tax. It did not encourage saving water as if you had paid for it you used it.

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:11 pm
by smac
Still the same Psyber. There is an excess water charge if you go over your allocation, but in 15 years of owning property I have not once tipped over that limit so it must be fairly generous.

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:45 pm
by Ian
smac wrote:Still the same Psyber. There is an excess water charge if you go over your allocation, but in 15 years of owning property I have not once tipped over that limit so it must be fairly generous.



Not quite correct smac, "excess" was gotten rid of a few years ago in SA in favour of a user pays system. The old "excess" system used to give you a free allocation with your supply charge, anything over that was called "excess" and charged for.

Now 4 times a year you pay:

Water: Quarterly supply charge
Sewer: Quarterly charge (calculated on property value, 35.6 cents per $1000)
Levy: Save the River Murray Levy

(my total quarterlly bill with no usage $163.25, so that is $653 a year without turning a tap on or flushing the toilet, it would be the same if the block was empty, as long as the service passes your property, you pay.)

Twice a year (every 2nd bill) you pay for the actual water that you use.

More info at:
http://www.sawater.com.au/SAWater/YourAccount/UnderstandingYourAccount/Your+Account+in+Detail.htm

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:59 pm
by heater31
Hey Dogger you need to become my neighbor. I live in a strata titled block of townhouses and we pay exactly the same water bill every quarter........the sewerage conection :lol: :lol: for some strange reason which the manager can't work out is when they were set up the corporation pays the usage bill :? :? I still skimp on water as I want to keep my fees to a minimum :lol: :wink:

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:17 pm
by smac
Ian wrote:
smac wrote:Still the same Psyber. There is an excess water charge if you go over your allocation, but in 15 years of owning property I have not once tipped over that limit so it must be fairly generous.



Not quite correct smac, "excess" was gotten rid of a few years ago in SA in favour of a user pays system. The old "excess" system used to give you a free allocation with your supply charge, anything over that was called "excess" and charged for.

Now 4 times a year you pay:

Water: Quarterly supply charge
Sewer: Quarterly charge (calculated on property value, 35.6 cents per $1000)
Levy: Save the River Murray Levy

(my total quarterlly bill with no usage $163.25, so that is $653 a year without turning a tap on or flushing the toilet, it would be the same if the block was empty, as long as the service passes your property, you pay.)

Twice a year (every 2nd bill) you pay for the actual water that you use.

More info at:
http://www.sawater.com.au/SAWater/YourAccount/UnderstandingYourAccount/Your+Account+in+Detail.htm

I might start reading the bill then. :oops:

It seems to be within a dollar or two each quarter so I have never noticed a change (and who really reads those change of terms notes they stick in the bill - other than you? :wink: ).

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:21 pm
by Ian
when they changed from excess to pay for what you use there was a lot of publicity, come to think of ot I reckon it was more than a few years ago.

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:22 pm
by smac
Obviously I was drunk that year then. :oops:

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:58 pm
by MW
Thats pretty high...I have a pool and mine is not much more than that from over summer

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:15 pm
by Ian
MW wrote:Thats pretty high...
Which one?

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:48 am
by Strawb
F8ck water its too expensive to drink beer is cheaper

Re: Maybe too private to talk about - SA Water

PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:07 am
by Ian
Strawb07 wrote:F8ck water its too expensive to drink beer is cheaper



The actual price of water is not expensive, I just looked back at my last bill with the the water charge on it, $1.16 per Kilolitre.
If I could by 1000 litres of beer for for $1.16 I'd be very pickled by now :)