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A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:17 am
by Dogwatcher

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:26 am
by Dirko
Good. That prick is one good reason for the death sentence.

My old man was a copper back in the day of the murders and recalls the job of having to walk through the bush
trying to find more girls, prodding the dirt with a pole, and hoping to hell not to find one....

Rest in HELL....

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:32 am
by The Big Shrek
I saw a little bit of the Criminal Investigation episode which covered this. My criminology lecturer was on it!

Seems like the murders were a product of a more innocent time. You wouldn't hear of women just jumping in cars with a couple of blokes these days.

It would have been interesting to see if he said anything on his deathbed. Probably a psychopath, wouldn't feel any empathy so didn't bother saying anything.

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:47 am
by Psyber
I knew Julie Mykyta, one of the victims, and her parents.
In another Adelaide case - I went to school with Rob Kelvin whose son was abducted and murdered - pity they only caught one of that group.

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:53 pm
by GWW
There was an interesting article in the SUNDAY MAIL about Miller about a month or so ago. They featured the police officer who was involved with catching Miller and his sidekick. He had some interesting things to say such as Miller actually being the more forceful of the 2, and that Worrell was actually a little meek, whereas it had generally been reported otherwise in the media.

One of the means through which they caught the 2 was that they checked events around the time frame of the murders - firstly prisoners released from jail, apparently the murders started after these were released, and then the murders finished at the time that Worrell was killed in a car accident in the South East. Very clever policework to catch these guys, in days before DNA analysis.

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:41 pm
by bayman
hopefully some very small relief for the families of those victims


as was stated in cases where the proof is 100% (not that miller admitted to the killings only to the burials, which is good enough for me to say guilty) that the death penalty should be in & for these atrocities i'd be happy to be the 'executioner'

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:23 pm
by The Big Shrek
We're not going to start a debate on capital punishment are we?

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:30 pm
by bayman
The Big Shrek wrote:We're not going to start a debate on capital punishment are we?



nah we've done that before.......personally i'd give them a fair trial then hang 'em :wink:

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:36 pm
by GWW
Psyber wrote:In another Adelaide case - I went to school with Rob Kelvin whose son was abducted and murdered - pity they only caught one of that group.


Hopefully the renewed enquiries will result in some arrests soon.

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:22 pm
by bayman
GWW wrote:
Psyber wrote:In another Adelaide case - I went to school with Rob Kelvin whose son was abducted and murdered - pity they only caught one of that group.


Hopefully the renewed enquiries will result in some arrests soon.


you would have gone to school (or at least the same school) as/with my youngest brother then

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:12 pm
by Rotter
The Big Shrek wrote:We're not going to start a debate on capital punishment are we?
I don't belive in captital punishment but I still reckon the coppers could turn a blind eye in the cells and let a little bit of family justice have its place. Nothing like a good beating at the hands of a husband, father or brother to express their own punishment. Ah the old days

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:32 am
by Squawk
GWW wrote:Very clever policework to catch these guys, in days before DNA analysis.


Actually the police work was sloppy at best until an acquaintance of Miller tipped police off that Miller had confessed some details to her. Then the investigation began and the pieces were put together. The conviction was aided by Miller's confession of his involvement in company with Worrell.

The police work to catch von Einem was much better and although they have always had a pretty good idea of who was involved in the "Family" they have lacked the clinching evidence.

Arguably the best example of police work in recent times was the Snowtown matter.

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:32 am
by Rik E Boy
Miller. What a scumbag. Helped Worrell procure his victims and then walked away while he had his way with them before dispatching them. Then he tried later to say 'it was all Worrell. I was under his spell' as he tried to weasel his way out of prison. He deserved everything he got and lots more. Good riddance.

regards,

REB

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:56 am
by Leaping Lindner
Squawk wrote:
GWW wrote:Very clever policework to catch these guys, in days before DNA analysis.


Actually the police work was sloppy at best until an acquaintance of Miller tipped police off that Miller had confessed some details to her. Then the investigation began and the pieces were put together. The conviction was aided by Miller's confession of his involvement in company with Worrell.

The police work to catch von Einem was much better and although they have always had a pretty good idea of who was involved in the "Family" they have lacked the clinching evidence.


Arguably the best example of police work in recent times was the Snowtown matter.


Also Von Einem was "dobbed" in as being someone the police should take an interest in.

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:58 pm
by Psyber
Leaping Lindner wrote: Also Von Einem was "dobbed" in as being someone the police should take an interest in.
Yes, some at the time thought he had drawn the short straw to take the fall, and take the heat off for the rest of the group involved.

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:00 pm
by GWW
Squawk wrote:
GWW wrote:Very clever policework to catch these guys, in days before DNA analysis.


Actually the police work was sloppy at best until an acquaintance of Miller tipped police off that Miller had confessed some details to her. Then the investigation began and the pieces were put together. The conviction was aided by Miller's confession of his involvement in company with Worrell.

The police work to catch von Einem was much better and although they have always had a pretty good idea of who was involved in the "Family" they have lacked the clinching evidence.

Arguably the best example of police work in recent times was the Snowtown matter.


Yeah you're probably right there i guess i was going on the fact that the Truro murderers were captured relatively early on despite this being the 1970's before DNA analysis.

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:25 pm
by Squawk
The clincher for von Einem wasn't DMA either from memory - it was fibre from Richard Kelvin's clothing that was found in his bedroom IIRC.

Re: A chapter in SA's murder history closes, good riddance.....

PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:05 am
by Jimmy_041
Psyber wrote:
Leaping Lindner wrote: Also Von Einem was "dobbed" in as being someone the police should take an interest in.
Yes, some at the time thought he had drawn the short straw to take the fall, and take the heat off for the rest of the group involved.


Magistrate charged for acts in the 70's & 80's and his identity outed this week

1+1=2.............