Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby dedja » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:08 pm

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Footy Chick wrote:This is something I now have to think about.

I'm leaning towards splits (although I'll never use the heating function as I have ducted gas)


Splits are expensive to run FC.


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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby Brodlach » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:08 pm

They can give you details of installers, had heaps of cards of businesses

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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby Psyber » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:15 pm

I've concluded that if I move, again, it will be into a house with several individual split systems.
That way I can choose to heat or cool one room with a smaller wattage system in the evenings when I'm not roaming around the house or entertaining.

Up here in the hills it is heating in winter that counts, and the only gas is relatively expensive LPG...
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby Stumps » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:20 pm

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Stumps wrote:Sounds like r/c certainly the way to go. We currently have it in the front of the house (4 bedrooms) looking at extending an open plan living room where we will be all the time apart from bedtime... Looking at evaporative for this back section as opposed to r/c due to keeping doors open to the deck etc...is this silly?


I'd get an expert in to quote on extending your R/C system to the back section. That's what we did when we extended. Hopefully your unit is big enough to cope. They just run extra ducting out if your existing unit can cope. You need to tell your builder you want to do this because obviously its easier to run the ducting out before your new ceiling goes in.

The cost of extending the R/C system will be less than installing a whole new Evap system. Then they can set it up with zones so you only use the R/C where you need it.


Thanks for reply. Yeah the r/c at front not big enough hence my dilemma. Split system or new r/c options but just thinking with an open plan and verandah under the main roof, we would be keen to keep bifolds/sliding door open a bit- hence thinking evap. Still not sold on them tho. Let us know what you would do anyone
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby dedja » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:21 pm

Psyber wrote:I've concluded that if I move, again, it will be into a house with several individual split systems.
That way I can choose to heat or cool one room with a smaller wattage system in the evenings when I'm not roaming around the house or entertaining.

Up here in the hills it is heating in winter that counts, and the only gas is relatively expensive LPG...


+1 ... far cheaper and more versatile then a whopping great big ducted RC unit
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby kickinit » Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:39 am

Splits are the only way to go. Also look at getting a unit that you can when it comes on and goes off. This way you won't need to have it on all day while your at work or come home to a boiling hot house.
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby bennymacca » Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:34 am

Evap plus gas fireplace for the winter. Best way to go!
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby Psyber » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:16 am

bennymacca wrote:Evap plus gas fireplace for the winter. Best way to go!

Certainly, if you have natural gas available, it is the way to go for heating.

Our house at Olinda in the Dandenong Ranges did not have air conditioning at all. You simply didn't need the cooling in the summer. For the winter though we had a natural gas powered hydronic system which circulated hot water under the floor through insulated pipes into adjustable radiators in each room. If we had natural gas in the Adelaide Hills I'd put something similar in here, but it would be too expensive to run on LPG.

I'm always bemused by the fact that a house at 570 metres altitude 58 km from the Melbourne CBD had piped in natural gas, whereas it isn't available in the Adelaide Hills at all where the market would be a good one. It would have been ideal to run the pipes up while the SE Freeway was being built (or later rebuilt).
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby bennymacca » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:18 am

Yeah fair point about needing natural gas, wouldn't be worth it on lpg.
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby The Ash Man » Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:44 am

Footy Chick wrote:do they install as well?


Hughes Heating and Cooling for install ;)
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby amber_fluid » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:28 pm

Here’s an old thread about A/C’s I found.
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby Footy Chick » Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:55 pm

dedja wrote:
gadj1976 wrote:
Footy Chick wrote:This is something I now have to think about.

I'm leaning towards splits (although I'll never use the heating function as I have ducted gas)


Splits are expensive to run FC.


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I've never had a bill over $300 in summer, it's the only time I use it - plus my house gets more stuffy than hot per se, so I only ever have it on for 2-3 hours per night in this weather. Never use the heater, I ended up getting ducted gas
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby Brodlach » Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:07 pm

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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby amber_fluid » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:17 pm

So how’s everyone’s evaporative system going in this heat?
I’m glad I have refrigerated.
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby Wedgie » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:46 pm

amber_fluid wrote:So how’s everyone’s evaporative system going in this heat?
I’m glad I have refrigerated.

No probs, I can't stand the heat but haven't had to turn our evap above 1/3rd.
Lived with refrigerated once and the cost was insane (despite having solar panels and zoned choices) for something that only works better than evap 2 or 3 day a year at the most, most summers are like this year when it wouldn't have made any difference, but I was interstate for the 46 degree day.
The quality and regular service of evaps does make a big difference though.
Decent evaps only struggle when it's humid and 40 for several days which is rare.
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby Psyber » Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:51 pm

The place I've moved into this year has a 20Kw Mitsubishi sytem for most of the house and a separate small split system to cover the front living room and main bedroom. The 20Kw sytem is 10 years old and blew its invertor circuit just before Christmas, which meant some delay getting the part.

It cost $850 all up - only $90 for diagnosis and installation. When it eventually dies I'll still go for multiple split systems.
I bought a cheap portable ARLEC evaporative sytem to help out in the kitchen while waiting.
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Re: Ducted Air-Conditioners: Refridgerated vs. Evaporative.

Postby mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Feb 28, 2019 9:03 pm

amber_fluid wrote:So how’s everyone’s evaporative system going in this heat?
I’m glad I have refrigerated.

Quite good actually.
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