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westozfalcon wrote:A little while back I was suffering a cold and nasal congestion and I went to a chemist near my work to get a small 6-tablet box of Clarinase tablets. The pharmacist asked me to present a drivers licence as means of identification as I was buying a product that contained pseudoephedrine. I reluctantly agreed, expressing my opinion that he was being over officious, as I was only asking for 6 tablets (a 3-day supply) and this hardly represented an amount which I could synthesise into a commercial quantity of ‘speed’ in a backyard drug lab. Also the fact that I was talking in a nasally tone, clearly affected by a cold, was a good indication that I wanted the tablets for genuine relief.
“It’s nothing personal” he said. Even the fact that I had purchased a newspaper from his shop countless times before didn’t sway him. I still had to hand over my drivers licence (I presume it would have been a passport if I didn’t drive a car!) so he could punch my personal info into a computer......

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Punk Rooster wrote:yes WOFalcon, but then there are the idiot minority that like to sue for their own stupidity- like the McDonalds customer in America who sued because their coffee was too hot...

westozfalcon wrote:A little while back I was suffering a cold and nasal congestion and I went to a chemist near my work to get a small 6-tablet box of Clarinase tablets. The pharmacist asked me to present a drivers licence as means of identification as I was buying a product that contained pseudo ephedrine. I reluctantly agreed, expressing my opinion that he was being over officious, as I was only asking for 6 tablets (a 3-day supply) and this hardly represented an amount which I could synthesise into a commercial quantity of ‘speed’ in a backyard drug lab. Also the fact that I was talking in a nasally tone, clearly affected by a cold, was a good indication that I wanted the tablets for genuine relief.
“It’s nothing personal” he said. Even the fact that I had purchased a newspaper from his shop countless times before didn’t sway him. I still had to hand over my drivers licence (I presume it would have been a passport if I didn’t drive a car!) so he could punch my personal info into a computer.

On one of the occasions when I bought a morning paper from his shop he was serving a young woman who had a cold. As she was buying some product he asked her if she was taking any other medication. In a muffled, embarrassed tone, she replied “Just the pill”. I felt awkward at being in the shop and for the fact that she felt compelled to answer that question in front of me, a complete stranger.

These days even a request for a packet of Disprin, a medicine which you can readily buy without scrutiny at a supermarket or petrol station, elicits a whole range of questions from a pharmacist like “Have you used this before”?, ‘Do you suffer asthma”?
Australians have been using over-the-counter proprietory medicines for years and have suffered no adverse effects.
It’s time that pharmacists stopped being overbearing and trying to justify their existence. If a customer asks a question, fine they can offer assistance from their knowledge of medicines. But there’s no need to indiscriminately interrogate people over the purchase of simple products.

hackham_hawk_3 wrote:It would be the same thing as when banks check id when you change large amounts of money over. My old retail manager had to go next door to the bank, in his uniform, and they asked for photo id, to protect against and detect money laundering...

my manager wanted to change over $1000 and they asked for id...hes a paranoid dude...and made a scene in the bank (in his uniform) and stormed out...he went back with $490 because the maximum to change without showing id was $500...he went back twice. Safe to say the store manager went ballistic at him for it...

His reasoning was that if they took his id, if he went back to change over his personal money they would think he was changing large sums of money over for himself all the time and start investigating him...

there are reasons there are laws for these sorts of thing...criminals have ways of doing their business...and law enforcement agencies have ways of detecting them. If they didnt there would be more drugs being made out of over the counter drugs...and more money laundering...

westozfalcon wrote: I reluctantly agreed, expressing my opinion that he was being over officious, as I was only asking for 6 tablets (a 3-day supply) and this hardly represented an amount which I could synthesise into a commercial quantity of ‘speed’ in a backyard drug lab.

SJABC wrote:

hackham_hawk_3 wrote:It would be the same thing as when banks check id when you change large amounts of money over. My old retail manager had to go next door to the bank, in his uniform, and they asked for photo id, to protect against and detect money laundering...

my manager wanted to change over $1000 and they asked for id...hes a paranoid dude...and made a scene in the bank (in his uniform) and stormed out...he went back with $490 because the maximum to change without showing id was $500...he went back twice. Safe to say the store manager went ballistic at him for it...

His reasoning was that if they took his id, if he went back to change over his personal money they would think he was changing large sums of money over for himself all the time and start investigating him...

there are reasons there are laws for these sorts of thing...criminals have ways of doing their business...and law enforcement agencies have ways of detecting them. If they didnt there would be more drugs being made out of over the counter drugs...and more money laundering...

Because he acted like a dick, the bank probably did a suss transaction report on him, and he's just opened himself up for financial investigation....

Pseudo wrote:A couple of years back I went to the chemists to get something to shift a wart from my hand (I know, I know, I should change hands occasionally). The pharmacist - a young lady - started asking questions to do with the size and location of said wart.

I said in complete deadpan mode, and at a reasonable volume:

"It's on my old fella".

You could have heard a pin drop

Choccies wrote:

SJABC wrote:

hackham_hawk_3 wrote:It would be the same thing as when banks check id when you change large amounts of money over. My old retail manager had to go next door to the bank, in his uniform, and they asked for photo id, to protect against and detect money laundering...

my manager wanted to change over $1000 and they asked for id...hes a paranoid dude...and made a scene in the bank (in his uniform) and stormed out...he went back with $490 because the maximum to change without showing id was $500...he went back twice. Safe to say the store manager went ballistic at him for it...

His reasoning was that if they took his id, if he went back to change over his personal money they would think he was changing large sums of money over for himself all the time and start investigating him...

there are reasons there are laws for these sorts of thing...criminals have ways of doing their business...and law enforcement agencies have ways of detecting them. If they didnt there would be more drugs being made out of over the counter drugs...and more money laundering...

Because he acted like a dick, the bank probably did a suss transaction report on him, and he's just opened himself up for financial investigation....

Thats spot on Mattee G... we were always advised when on the tellers line in the bank that if someone didn't want to complete the Large Transaction form then if they came back we'd just fill out the Suspect Transaction form on them... It's all about forms and covering your ass in the bank !!

Leaping Lindner wrote:

westozfalcon wrote:A little while back I was suffering a cold and nasal congestion and I went to a chemist near my work to get a small 6-tablet box of Clarinase tablets. The pharmacist asked me to present a drivers licence as means of identification as I was buying a product that contained pseudoephedrine. I reluctantly agreed, expressing my opinion that he was being over officious, as I was only asking for 6 tablets (a 3-day supply) and this hardly represented an amount which I could synthesise into a commercial quantity of ‘speed’ in a backyard drug lab. Also the fact that I was talking in a nasally tone, clearly affected by a cold, was a good indication that I wanted the tablets for genuine relief.
“It’s nothing personal” he said. Even the fact that I had purchased a newspaper from his shop countless times before didn’t sway him. I still had to hand over my drivers licence (I presume it would have been a passport if I didn’t drive a car!) so he could punch my personal info into a computer......

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It is nothing personal. Pharmacists are required to do it by law. There are miniature armies of people who spend their days going from pharmacy to pharmacy collecting the drug in whatever qunatity they can. "Just a couple" here and "A few here" very quickly adds up. And they get paid good $$$ for them.
I've spent the best part of the past 10 years working in drug and alcohol rehab and some of the schemes I have heard when it comes to getting pharmacutical (over the counter) medicine you just wouldn't believe unless you'd witnessed it, and even then it's hard to believe.

westozfalcon wrote:

Leaping Lindner wrote:

westozfalcon wrote:A little while back I was suffering a cold and nasal congestion and I went to a chemist near my work to get a small 6-tablet box of Clarinase tablets. The pharmacist asked me to present a drivers licence as means of identification as I was buying a product that contained pseudoephedrine. I reluctantly agreed, expressing my opinion that he was being over officious, as I was only asking for 6 tablets (a 3-day supply) and this hardly represented an amount which I could synthesise into a commercial quantity of ‘speed’ in a backyard drug lab. Also the fact that I was talking in a nasally tone, clearly affected by a cold, was a good indication that I wanted the tablets for genuine relief.
“It’s nothing personal” he said. Even the fact that I had purchased a newspaper from his shop countless times before didn’t sway him. I still had to hand over my drivers licence (I presume it would have been a passport if I didn’t drive a car!) so he could punch my personal info into a computer......

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It is nothing personal. Pharmacists are required to do it by law. There are miniature armies of people who spend their days going from pharmacy to pharmacy collecting the drug in whatever qunatity they can. "Just a couple" here and "A few here" very quickly adds up. And they get paid good $$$ for them.
I've spent the best part of the past 10 years working in drug and alcohol rehab and some of the schemes I have heard when it comes to getting pharmacutical (over the counter) medicine you just wouldn't believe unless you'd witnessed it, and even then it's hard to believe.

But I just wonder if this overly strict approach to supplying cold & flu remedies is actually having any real impact on illegal amphetamine production?

From reading the regular reports of crime perpetrated by people high on amphetamines there certainly doesn't seem to be a shortage of supply in the community.

But what we do have is the personal details of innocent people stored in a computer database while the streets are still awash with illicit drugs!

dedja wrote:Tell him what you think and take your business elsewhere ...