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WTF is going on???

Just read on Adelaide now that three more have been killed near Mt Compass.

I think we're already at 18. Keep this rate up and we'll be looking around the 250 mark by December 31.

Anyone have any suggestions as to how to get the message through??????

Cambridge Clarrie wrote:WTF is going on???

Just read on Adelaide now that three more have been killed near Mt Compass.

I think we're already at 18. Keep this rate up and we'll be looking around the 250 mark by December 31.

Anyone have any suggestions as to how to get the message through??????

fix the roads, i think that would be better than just raising revenue

Can't agree about just fixing the roads ... you should drive to the conditions, good or bad.

The state managed under 100 deaths in 2008, continuing a long term downward trend, but since last year it's been horrible.

Anyway, why is it happening? Good question and I wish I knew the answer.

I think that if Adelaide had a designated drag racing strip, it would cut down the number of street-racing deaths significantly.

Have had a high number of multiple fatilities this year

Near Middleton today I saw a P plater drive off with Coopers Pale Ale in hand along with the rest of the car.

fisho mcspaz wrote:I think that if Adelaide had a designated drag racing strip, it would cut down the number of street-racing deaths significantly.

How about people just don't street race?

They take "hoons" cars away permanently after a third hoon driving offence, yet drink drivers can be caught multiple times and keep their vehicle. Which is actually more dangerous Hoon Driving or Drink Driving? Perhaps the penalties for both should be standardised and more traffic police put on the roads to enforce both.

have the kw capped for under 20's. See how they go drag racing in their Yaris's.

Farmy wrote:Near Middleton today I saw a P plater drive off with Coopers Pale Ale in hand along with the rest of the car.

Tsk-tsk. Don't drink and drive - you might spill your drink.

Gonna be a big hole in the Mt Compass footy club this season - RIP fellas.

If only people would:

a) follow the road rules & b) drive to the conditions

then many of these fatalities would not occur.

Also, the amount of risky overtaking moves I see almost daily on my trip to and from work, crazy. As the saying goes, better to be late than dead on time.

As for the young fellas, you're not bullet proof boys. Think before you put the foot down, think about your family, your mates in the car with you, even the people you don't even know that might be travelling the same road as you. It just ain't worth it.

The inevitabilty is that people will die on the road
The practabilty is that we can limit the fatalities
The way to do that is with commom sense road laws

DRIVERS LISENCE
When I got a liscence in the 70s, it was too easy
I did the easy practical exam
Then went for a spin with a Policeman
The hardest part of that was parking the car as near as possible to the kerb
So after going for a few spins with my brother in law, passing the tests I was a 17 year old who was raring to drive
However I was nowhere near ready to be a driver on our roads
I had no clear comprehension on road fatalities and the consequenses of being badly injured in a prang
As a teenager, the best thing about it was I survived, being an inexperienced driver, but then a semi lunatic on the road
Yes I ''I did all those dumb things '' young drivers did then and prob even now
Yep I drove thru the Rosetta Street underpass at about 60 mph
I went thru stop signs
I would speed on the open roads
I would spin out the car with skids wheelies and broggies
I was another stupid young kid who flaunted the road laws

I did all that and I was generally a reasonably well behaved teenager in those days

SOLUTION
Make it as tough as possible for teenagers to get a liscense
Make it compulsory for all teenagers to go to seminars and see video footage of carnage
Get people who have lost loved ones to be seen on video, or in person, to tell others of the devasation
Getting driving lessons form the pros is a start but it aint quite enough

mal wrote:Yes I ''I did all those dumb things '' young drivers did then and prob even now
Yep I drove thru the Rosetta Street underpass at about 60 mph
I went thru stop signs
I would speed on the open roads
I would spin out the car with skids wheelies and broggies
I was another stupid young kid who flaunted the road laws

Jeez, I never did any of those things as a teenager or even in my early 20s, including never risking the Rosetta St subway at 60kph - it was a bit narrow as I recall and its bottom was always a bit rough.
Speeding on the open roads is the only one of those I've ever done since I got older and more experienced too.

Psyber wrote:Speeding on the open roads is the only one of those I've ever done since I got older and more experienced too.

And that makes it OK ? No. It just makes you an idiot.

Farmy wrote:

fisho mcspaz wrote:I think that if Adelaide had a designated drag racing strip, it would cut down the number of street-racing deaths significantly.

How about people just don't street race?

How to stop them?

People need to accept responsibility for the own actions, but unfortunately it's the innocent motorist doing the right thing who gets killed. What a waste of life.

SJABC wrote:

Psyber wrote:Speeding on the open roads is the only one of those I've ever done since I got older and more experienced too.

And that makes it OK ? No. It just makes you an idiot.

It makes it safer than it would have been when I was inexperienced...
I've posted my arguments for why I think our open road speed limits are unreasonably low once or twice before, so I won't repeat them here.
I've also supported the reduced limits in built up areas introduced in the last few years, and obeyed them.
Calling me an idiot is technically being abusive, mildly abusive, but abusive, which is also childish.
How about you address the case for and against the present open road limits instead...

Psyber wrote:Calling me an idiot is technically being abusive, mildly abusive, but abusive, which is also childish.
How about you address the case for and against the present open road limits instead...

I didn't say anything about having open road limits. I think the limits for our open roads are fine,
however your good self doesn't. If you wish to see yourself above the law and openly admit to breaking them
then that is your prerogative.

Just as it's my choice to call someone who deliberately breaks the rules an idiot.

If you think that's being abusive and childish then perhaps you should take a long hard look in the mirror and have a look at the
idiot staring back at you and realise that no matter how decent your car is supposed to be, nor how much training you supposedly
have had, it still means your breaking the law.

For people like you who see yourself above the law, there's always a tree with your name on it.....

My thoughts are that you don't have to agree with the rules/laws, but you have to abide by them. Surely most of us would disagree, even strongly disagree, with some laws, that doesn't mean we don't obey them does it? What chance have any of us got to change them anyway? Unfortunately there are always some people who think that some laws/rules don't apply to them because they do not agree with them. Why should they pick and choose which ones they obey/follow?

Rams52 wrote:My thoughts are that you don't have to agree with the rules/laws, but you have to abide by them. Surely most of us would disagree, even strongly disagree, with some laws, that doesn't mean we don't obey them does it? What chance have any of us got to change them anyway? Unfortunately there are always some people who think that some laws/rules don't apply to them because they do not agree with them. Why should they pick and choose which ones they obey/follow?

You are both right in regards to breaking a law, but if you followed every single law to the tee then we would break laws all the time, like J walking.
Driving on a road that you regularly travel on where no one else is around and you are familiar with, going a bit faster I dont see a huge problem
obviously not in built up residentual areas but more on country roads
doing 120 on a 110 road, I dont think is any worse!