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Another SA road question - Regency Road

PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:20 am
by spell_check
There is a roadsign somewhere along Regency Road (Probably more than one like this) which says "Formerly Irish Harp Road". I know there is "Irish Harp Reserve", but when did the road become Regency Road?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:43 pm
by Ecky
Well, I knew my collection of old Adelaide street directories would come in useful one day :lol:

It appears as though the change happened some time between 1961 and 1965.

In the Gregory's 16th Edition (published 1961) Regency Rd was known as:

:arrow: Islington Rd between Torrens and Churchill roads
:arrow: Irish Harp Rd between Churchill and Main North roads
:arrow: Rakes Rd between Main North and Hampstead roads

In the Gregory's 17th Edition (published 1965) it had changed to Regency Road the whole way.

By the way, if anyone has old Gregory's Adelaide Street directories lying around, I am prepared to pay some money for them ($5-$10) provided they are ones I don't have and are in reasonable condition.

I am currently missing editions 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,11,12,14,20,22,24,25,32,33,38,44,45,49,50,51

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:00 pm
by Punk Rooster
& Ecky wins the nerd-off!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:14 pm
by spell_check
Ecky wrote:Well, I knew my collection of old Adelaide street directories would come in useful one day :lol:

It appears as though the change happened some time between 1961 and 1965.

In the Gregory's 16th Edition (published 1961) Regency Rd was known as:

:arrow: Islington Rd between Torrens and Churchill roads
:arrow: Irish Harp Rd between Churchill and Main North roads
:arrow: Rakes Rd between Main North and Hampstead roads

In the Gregory's 17th Edition (published 1965) it had changed to Regency Road the whole way.

By the way, if anyone has old Gregory's Adelaide Street directories lying around, I am prepared to pay some money for them ($5-$10) provided they are ones I don't have and are in reasonable condition.

I am currently missing editions 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,11,12,14,20,22,24,25,32,33,38,44,45,49,50,51


I told you I was interested in looking at those! :D Thanks for that, I thought I had everyone stumped with this question!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:57 am
by spell_check
A way to get closer to the year is to obtain the UBD 6th Edition, which was published in 1963. The 5th edition was published in 1961 and the 7th in 1965.

The years not covered from the first year UBD published a street directory of Adelaide (1957), along with Gregorys' combined is: 1962, 1964, 1967, 1974 and 1979. For some reason Gregorys' published two editions in 1973 - 23rd and 24th.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:16 am
by spell_check
Found this about Rakes Road:

Olive Farm Estate
Nomenclature
A subdivision of part section 330-31, Hundred of Yatala by Beaven Rake in 1920; now included in Broadview. Rakes Road, now part of Regency Road, was named after him. The Advertiser of 6 September 1919 at page 16 says:

Olive Farm has been in the possession of the Rake family since 1847. The soil is noted for its fertility and many fine records have been established there in cereal crops.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:01 am
by Dissident
I find this really interesting actually.
I like looking at old maps etc.

Anyone have the UBD on their computer ? I use it all the time, it's like having a map of Adelaide on the wall - can see everything at once!

Another weird thing - check your street directory for DAW PARK and check the boundaries .....

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:34 am
by Dissident
From my PC's UBD

Image

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:39 am
by Dissident
The borders of DAW PARK and COLONEL LIGHT GARDENS

Image

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:43 am
by Ecky
Dissident wrote:The borders of DAW PARK and COLONEL LIGHT GARDENS

Image


Something which sort of explains that is how Colonel Light Gardens used to be a council area just by itself.

Another interesting road fact, which I didn't realise for many years, was where the name "Glynburn" Rd came from...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:26 am
by Dissident
Ecky wrote:
Dissident wrote:The borders of DAW PARK and COLONEL LIGHT GARDENS

Image


Something which sort of explains that is how Colonel Light Gardens used to be a council area just by itself.

Another interesting road fact, which I didn't realise for many years, was where the name "Glynburn" Rd came from...


Where did Glynburn Road's name come from ?

Colonel Light Gardens wasn't a council by itself - at least I didn't think so.
I think it was for the "1000 House Project" where they built houses for returning soldiers. But they ran out of room and had to cross over Goodwood Road. Unsure why Daw Park had to be split (if it even was - your old street directories would be great for that) but imagine the furore NOW if you told 15% of CLG that they would change to Daw Park :)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:29 pm
by Ecky
Dissident wrote:Where did Glynburn Road's name come from ?

Hint - it runs from Burnside to Glynde :wink:


Dissident wrote:Colonel Light Gardens wasn't a council by itself - at least I didn't think so.


Definitely was a separate council according to the old street directories.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:36 pm
by Dissident
Ecky wrote:
Dissident wrote:Where did Glynburn Road's name come from ?

Hint - it runs from Burnside to Glynde :wink:


Dissident wrote:Colonel Light Gardens wasn't a council by itself - at least I didn't think so.


Definitely was a separate council according to the old street directories.


Haha, ok - I get it now :) Boring, really! But take it for granted that's it.

So CLG was it's own council as well - interesting!
I find DAW PARK more facinating though... now you can leave it and then go back in to it.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 2:15 pm
by Ecky
Dissident wrote:
Ecky wrote:
Dissident wrote:Where did Glynburn Road's name come from ?

Hint - it runs from Burnside to Glynde :wink:

Haha, ok - I get it now :) Boring, really! But take it for granted that's it.


Yep, came about after a Woodville-West Torrens style merger of Burnside Rd and Glynde Rd.

Re: Another SA road question - Regency Road

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:34 pm
by spell_check
http://www.mapshop.net.au/fullers/image ... 0/map8.gif

Here is a link to a map from 1940 showing the three roads that are now known as Regency Road. Quite interesting that there were quite a few roads that had different names then, and the different suburb names.

You can see all of the maps from that year here:

http://www.mapshop.net.au/fullers/full1940.htm

Re: Another SA road question - Regency Road

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:43 pm
by Dirko
That is really interesting. I like it alot ! Interesting to see my old stomping ground of Panorama, virtually is on the end of the planet !
My current Suburb Lockleys is missing half of it, in fact the bit of Lockleys where I now live was called White Park...

Will need to show my Dad this stuff he'd love it also !

Re: Another SA road question - Regency Road

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:02 am
by heater31
same here, Hilton by the looks of it used to be south of what is Bradman Drive now not north as is today. Where it was has now become Richmond. clearly see the reserve for the oval.

Also Cowandilla has lost its H these days

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:35 am
by Footy Chick
Ecky wrote:
Dissident wrote:The borders of DAW PARK and COLONEL LIGHT GARDENS

Image


Something which sort of explains that is how Colonel Light Gardens used to be a council area just by itself.
Another interesting road fact, which I didn't realise for many years, was where the name "Glynburn" Rd came from...



Doesnt also have something to do with the fact that CLG (as in the whole suburb) is heritage listed or something?

Re: Another SA road question - Regency Road

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:40 am
by Dissident
What a great find there. Brilliant maps to look at!

Re: Another SA road question - Regency Road

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:53 am
by Dissident
http://www.mapshop.net.au/fullers/image ... /map15.gif

Has Glynburn Road before it's change; Glynde Road and Burnside Road.